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SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Quote - 11-16-2014
Hi Shannon,
I'm on BASE stage 2, and I've encountered an embarrassing problem! Stage 1 was great. I was motivated, pumped up, but when I started stage 2... I felt this pumped-up energy drain away with each passing day (this wasn't the biggest issue). The biggest issue right now is, I find myself enjoying the thought of giving things away for free to people and not charge for them (which I've never had it before). This is contradicting the capitalist economy... I feel like charity!!!
I'm agonizing over this the past day, it's making me feel uncomfortable.
Please shine some light on this. I don't feel this is normal for an entrepreneurial sub... Thank you.
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Quote - 11-17-2014
Before I write anything else: I THINK the "charitable" thinking has been resolved. (I went back to where I discovered it and tested myself against it, and I do see the need to charge for the item and make a profit on it. It's not strong, but at least I'm no longer screaming charity). I will monitor this mindset and report back if I encounter anything weird about it.
I'd still be curious what Shannon thinks about this, if he has an idea what happened, because I have no idea what could have led me to think and feel that way (more on that later, I have some guesses based on my experience).
My feelings and thoughts back then: When I encountered the thought, I felt like my front two wheels of my car went into the huge pothole in the road. I went HUH? My logical brain tells me, this can't be true! Everybody charges for something! I tried very hard to gather whatever reasons I previously thought were valid to throw at it, but it was like trying to light a candle, but with wind blowing at it... something so simple, but you just can't do it. You know you can... you've done it before... you try... and fail. I tried different ways to convince myself otherwise... but still nothing. For a while I felt frightened. I thought it was temporary, maybe I didn't use the sub correctly or something I missed out, so I carried on with the sub and waited to test after some hours later. Still nothing... it was agonizing... hence my previous post.
But I wasted no time waiting for a reply... I looked up and read up on wealth and surrounded my thoughts today with wealth. I stayed away from reading anything "capitalism" because if anything came up, 99% were negative and did not help my situation. I went back to test after I'm convinced that it's better with profits than without... seems to have resolved.
If you asked me what might have happened, I would say, probably the articles and thoughts that surround topics like you don't need so much money to feel happy, that health is wealth (and if you pursue wealth you will give up health), articles against capitalism and advocate socialism. They seem to make a strong case that too much money in your bank is bad... something horrible will befall you...
After this experience, I feel that my mind is very plastic right now... very suggestible... be careful what you expose yourself to...
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - in3deep - 11-17-2014
maybe its a case of long term,
wat u give, returns to u 3 fold?
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - swisston - 11-17-2014
I am going to be offering a series of workbooks for free. These are 'high value gifts' designed to get people signed up to my email newsletter... which in turn adds more people to the funnel for the real money making; new clients.
As my business coach says:
The amount of money you make = How many people you help x How much you help them.
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Benjamin - 11-17-2014
I'd say it's the program shining light on some insecurity and maybe a belief of not feeling worth it. It should pass.
-Ben
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - AlphaMind - 11-17-2014
(11-17-2014, 04:44 PM)swisston Wrote: The amount of money you make = How many people you help x How much you help them.
AGREED!!
Wonderful coach you have!!
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Ace - 11-17-2014
(11-17-2014, 06:16 PM)AlphaMind Wrote:+1(11-17-2014, 04:44 PM)swisston Wrote: The amount of money you make = How many people you help x How much you help them.
AGREED!!
Wonderful coach you have!!
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Jakeb203 - 11-18-2014
I am a student, currently on stage 2 of BASE 5G too.
The biggest problem I feel with Stage 2 is that I don't have the drive to pursue my dreams anymore... Instead find myself enjoying everyday life and watching movies all the time.
I mean, I should have done more in terms of knowing deeper of my subject and start going for competitions, but I find myself doing none of those instead. No studying, no work outs, but merely doing whatever I want without even the slightest guilt.
Yes, I agree that I feel happy most of the time, but it can't be always like this because the only purpose for starting this sub is for accomplishments... and I find myself going further opposite from this path.
So yea, same issue with what Quote has stated, I hope that Shannon can clarify something.
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Shannon - 11-18-2014
FEAR is the root of all "evil" in this case. When the program pushes you to do something you are afraid of deep down, you're going to resist as hard as you feel the fear. Some people respond with conscious fear, and some do not.
There have been many cases with BAMM 2.0 where I was terrified of doing something, facing something, or at the very least, uncomfortable dealing with it. In the beginning, I would just stonewall it. Over time, I got to be less and less afraid, and more an more willing to do and deal with instead.
Reversal responses are, as far as I can tell, always efforts by your subconscious mind to resist the script - when you are using my subliminals, at least. It is possible to get reversal responses from poorly made subs simply because they are scripted improperly. With mine, it's always going to be an effort to hide, delay, deny, resist what scares you. Over time, it will fade away and the program will win out. It just means the program is working.
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Ampersnd - 11-18-2014
Glad to hear this; I've been in a 'down' phase of motivation regarding women and dating for a couple months.
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Quote - 11-18-2014
Hi guys, thanks for your responses!
It felt more like since the customer needed it, I ought to just give it to them. I'm not sure it's giving in order to get more out of them later.
@Ben, yes, I had a thought that it might be so. I guess it was, they deserve it more than I do.
@Jakeb Thanks Jake for chiming in! Glad that I'm not alone.
@Shannon I appreciate the clarification. I will be more aware of this as it happens. It did feel like I was looking for guidance (internally) how to proceed, and found nothing there, so I came to the next logical conclusion, and it stucked, would not budge. Could a lack of knowledge or naivety (for instance, in this case, a lack of knowledge on why I must charge a price) be responsible for such a decision?
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Quote - 12-12-2014
Sigh... I'm back with another embarrassing issue to report.
The money issue did not return, so no problems with that one. But now I have this new one... it wasn't immediately identifiable, it built up gradually over 2 weeks or so, but I do feel it's unsafe... for the people around me...
I have recently (probably 2 weeks ago, and it builds up stronger from there) become a walking time bomb, full of frustrations to unleash... on the people around me. I don't seem to be pleased at all by the things that they do, especially "stupid" (that's subjective) things. I find that I classify a lot more things as "stupid" now. I get impatient easily and frustrated easily. Whether or not I "unleash" my frustrations verbally (in anger), it is immediately written all over my body (language) and face.
The bad (again, subjective) part about it is, I don't feel bad about it! I feel that I am entitled to be frustrated, and sometimes I unleash it on the unsuspecting subjects who performed those "stupid" acts. To them, they probably see me saying "Oh come on, wise up! I command you to stop being stupid and don't make this mistake again!"
I don't feel bad about it, but I know that it isn't healthy... I'm destroying the goodwill I have with the people I work with and live with. Sometimes (or even most times) I find myself jumping to conclusions and it turned out that I was wrong or misinterpreted them (much later... too late to take back my frustrations)
I hope Shannon can shine some light on this... is this a phase? Resistance? Is this the true me? (that's very very scary) Why or how could I be so intolerant, so inconsiderate toward others feelings? As I understand, it's supposed to be safe... but why am I attempting to create fear in people to try and get my way (even though I know it isn't really working, and it definitely isn't ethical!)
I want to highlight that this isn't (wasn't) my normal behaviour. I was not like that... in fact I despised such behaviour (I always felt and thought that it was wrong), and even corrected others (in a subtle, patient way) when their intentions are good but their actions backfire on them.
I have given this thought, tried to extract myself out of those destructive emotions, but when it is happening (the "stupid" things), I find my anger and frustrations just naturally build up, I feel like I'm entitled to feel that way. AAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!
I am at a loss what I wish to ask of Shannon... I don't know whether to call for help, or seek to understand what's going on (I don't know if it can help my current situation). All I know is, this is horrible! I wasn't like this before! Where did that go? What the hell happened???
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Ivaylo - 12-12-2014
I am nearing the end of Stage 2 of BASE myself, and I can confirm that throughout the stage I've been more and more aggressive and impatient with people around me, when it comes to behaviors I find unproductive.
My temporary solution is to assume, that the anger is there to drive me to find new friends (which to some extent is already happening) and reconsider/recontextualize relationships with old ones. There are all the internal and external indicators, that the subliminal is doing its thing by rearranging my circle of friends. I find it a bit unnerving, but I know that's what I signed up for when I made a commitment to run BASE.
Quote, I can also relate to what you are saying about jumping to conclusions only to realize you're wrong. With me, that happens with people, who lack the ability to communicate clearly, leaving me guessing a lot of the time. Then, all that goal orientation kicks in, and since I don't have enough information to work with, I make stuff up (without even knowing at the time).
I'm guessing two things will happen in the coming months.
1. This behavior will get refined to a point, where I can predict those incidents much before they happen.
2. I will make it a point to avoid confrontations (and having to make stuff up) by limiting my contact with such people.
Let's see what Shannon has to say.
Shannon, I would also appreciate any input you may have on the matter.
RE: SOS Shannon! Please do not laugh... - Quote - 12-12-2014
Thank you Ivaylo for chiming in. I am so glad I'm not alone in this...
I am happy and all for it if aggressiveness is what it takes for BASE to work, but not aggressive to people in such a way that will undermine the results you get from these people.