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Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - alphatrial4 - 12-10-2012
Doing it - It has been inevitable. Bought the 2010 Version and never got passed stage 1. I really want to commit this time - Journal should help that. Been doing some affirmations/visualizations/meditation lately, and it has been improving my life. I'm going to go heavier on the meditation/qigong side and let the sub do it's thing, so I can see what effects it has. Those practices should help with the resistance, and I enjoy them. I still may visualize if I feel very drawn to, but I'd like to see what effect the program has without my conscious intent being involved.
I've had some success with this stuff, but I'd like a rock solid mindset and that's what Alpha seems to be. I know it could be hard but we'll see what happens. I'll try to post back in a week or two!
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Shannon - 12-10-2012
Don't necessarily expect it to be hard. The naturalizer that has been added to AM 5.0 makes it much smoother and easier for most people, unless they have a lot of resistance to something.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - alphatrial4 - 12-10-2012
I will be flat out honest right away, so my journal entry starts honest. My biggest resistance right now is I get the impression that many on this forum are addicted to subs and it seems like some are not truly facing themselves, and instead relying on the sub for everything. We still have to be men, and we still have to be conscious. I do not like the idea of being dependent on an external source for growth.
Maybe I am right, or maybe this is my own negative slant on things. I am not here to trash talk, it is amazing that everyone here is gathered for self-development, and i recognize some people from other forums. Perhaps I am simply recognizing a pattern of behavior in myself and projecting it on everyone here..!
I have had a pretty decent success lately with my own methods, so I don't know why I keep getting drawn to the subs - I can't tell if it's out of fear, or out of my gut, maybe both. My instict does tell me there is a power in using the subs that could be far beyond my own conscious effort. But since i dropped the cash i'm going to stick with it and see what happens, that's the only way.
I can't help but be curious and some of the stories/results seem amazing, and the commitment is so easy. I just have an issue because I don't see it as alpha to be using a subliminal to become more alpha.... ouch my brain hurts!
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Shannon - 12-10-2012
Let's consider your preconception that it isn't alpha to use subliminals to become more alpha. How does one become more alpha, if not through some form of self improvement and growth? In the case of many who find this program useful, including myself there was no masculine role model for balancing the feminine side of things growing up. Many people who use it do so because they were raised by a single mother, and no matter how good a woman is, she cannot give a child the experience of the opposite gender to balance him out and teach him how to be a man. As you may note, many here who use this program therefore are using it because they were taught how to please a woman, not be a man.
Ironically, the "kiss her butt, buy her things and let her take advantage of you" theme that results is anything but what a woman really wants in a man. She wants a man, not a doormat, no matter what his mother taught him. The only exception is going to be a woman who doesn't want a man because a strong man threatens her sense of strength, and instead, she chooses weak men (boys) who were raised to be doormats, which she can walk on and control easily. This type of woman is broken, as is the type of "man" she chooses.
For me, this program was the only thing I had to use to learn how to be a man, become self sufficient, gain self confidence in my own masculinity in the face of man hating feminists, and generally stand up for myself in general. A lot of guys come from similar backgrounds, with similar needs.
Men who don't, however, can still benefit from the program because of what it is and what it does. How "alpha" is it to have a useful and effective tool, but not use it because someone might think you're weak for doing so? That's basically what your concern boils down to. And the answer is... not very! Because worrying what others might or do think is the domain of a beta, not an alpha.
An alpha will use the tools available to accomplish their goals, and to hell with what everyone else thinks. They don't care, because they're - you guessed it - alpha. They think for themselves, do their own thing, and they are self supportive and self validating.
So by having such a tool available and not using it, especially because you're afraid someone might judge you negatively for using it, you're not being more alpha. You're being more beta.
The rest of your concern appears to be centered around having a hard time believing what you read here. Addicted to subliminals? Hardly. Addiction is something very different. These people found a useful tool for easy self improvement and they want to use it. Once you start seeing the difference compared to affirmations, etc. you'll want to keep using them, too, because it's so much easier AND more effective.
I'm sure others can say more.
Welcome back, and enjoy your ride on the alpha train.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - alphatrial4 - 12-10-2012
Thanks for your reply - You bring up very good points - most notably the beta behavior. I apologize if I am being provocative - I want to keep the review very honest for both myself and other people, and I'm sure you want the same. It seems to be a great open forum you have going here.
On a side note, I literally can already feel the program working (1.5 Hrs in), unless this is left over from my visualizations earlier today. I don't think so though, the feeling of the subs working is a very different quality than my own LOA efforts... And this is the exact same feeling I had when I started (promptly stopping to purchase 5.0) Alpha 2010 a few days ago. The feeling is amazing, a kind of peace, and indifference.
I spent all day today striving with girls, trying to figure things out, checking them out etc.. Beta behavior. All of a sudden now I am all chilled out sitting here in this wonderful aura of calm and indifference that can take it or leave it. A few days ago, after listening to Alpha 2010 for two nights, I was feeling the same vibration I am feeling right now, and two girls (best friends) were subtly fighting over me, one asked me on a date and put her head on my shoulder, asked to sit next to me, kept trying to get me to hang out longer. This stuff doesn't normally happen to me, though I wouldn't say I'm clueless with girls either. I can read them pretty well when they're into me, but my own insecurity prevents me from really progressing with them. With this insecurity/neediness out of the way, nature progresses quite naturally.
I've done a lot of meditation/energy work, so I am very aware of my internal world, and I'd say there is no way this feeling is placebo, Obviously there are many factors at play... I'm unwinding after a stressful day, I've started practicing qigong recently, etc But the sub has a distinct quality that I can feel as unique from these other emotional/physiological factors at play.
This stuff is amazing. But I will try to remain a skeptic, especially as it has been 1 hour. (LOL) ;-)
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Shannon - 12-11-2012
I suggest that trying to remain a skeptic is just as bad as the reverse response, being gullible. Just let go of both of those, and be neutral. Let the program show you what it can do, while you sit still and have no expectations. Let it do the job of proving it does or does not work. In the mean time, be still and accept that "I don't yet know one way or the other".
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Yuri - 12-11-2012
yeahhhh, why wouldn't we be addicted? and i'm not speaking about an alcohol addiction, i'm talking about improvement and progress addiction.
Why would you stop? we are all searching for ways to improve ourselves one way or the other and for the time being we have found the best way that fits us and also works better than nearly anything out there.
look there's a reason shannon sometimes goes on for weeks being burned out because of us, and the reason is because we are hungry for change, because of how most of us were drained of the misconception of change that was thrown out to us by other people.
I have been in the so called self help industry for more than 5 years and I tell you I have nearly tried everything and I have not witnessed anything that benefited me more than my 4 months of AM and the funny thing is I'm not done with it yet.
And lets be real, the thought of becoming more manly by itself sounds unmanly to most people let alone the way, though I believe finding the best way and going through with it, is what makes it manly.
Good Luck on Your journey mate.
oh and good luck especially on stage 2 LOL.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Tiesto - 12-11-2012
(12-11-2012, 08:19 AM)Yuri Wrote: oh and good luck on stage 2 especially LOL.
LOL! That's true... Better watch out for that stage 2.. Gotta experience it first-hand to understand it.. :p
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Spiral - 12-11-2012
LOL Yuri.. Watch out stage 5 is a doozy too.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Shannon - 12-11-2012
Whaddaya mean? I really enjoyed Stage 5 myself.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - Spiral - 12-11-2012
Personally.. it's the stage where I feel the most discombobulated. also stage 3 and 4 were a doozy.. more so in Alpha 2011. I guess it's different for everyone.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - alphatrial4 - 12-13-2012
I can feel the effects, definitely... It feels deeply natural, and subconscious.. my thoughts about events in my life are already changing to that of a more alpha position. I also feel more zen, less needy, and able to focus on the things that I really want to do much more.
At the same time, I am also experiencing a withdrawal from magnetic mindset. My social skills have decreased a bit (not a lot) and my desire to meet girls has gone down. Also I looked at porn/jacked off again. These things were better when doing MM... no desire for porn at all because my mind was filled with so many beautiful visions from the visualizaiton/affirmation. I may consider continuing some visualization and stuff in the meantime since it was working, while alpha kicks in. Also been meditating a lot which has defintiely released any resistance alpha has brought up. Been very easy so far, but quite positive
Edit: and I'll add that while I do miss the MM effects as they fade - The subliminal is much superior as the MM feels like I have to continually hold onto it and grasp it while the subs change a deeper layer --- It's almost as if I can't help but be alpha.. I have no choice. And I should also note that I am also quite alpha in certain situations... But the situations in which I'm not are the reason I aspire to use the program.
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - alphatrial4 - 12-17-2012
Day 7 Stage 1 ---
Definitely feeling the effects. Increasing indifferent towards women, in fact almost turned off by some of their behavior. Getting more looks, but taking less note of it (although I've been having thoughts about the concept of indifference itself haha). Right now when a girl looks at me it doesn't make me feel all elated like it generally would. It's nice, but almost tiring in a way. I am very aware of subtle energies sometimes, and it feels like all the girls checking me out is very draining. There are lots of girls looking at me on the subway and stuff that I'm not really into. I feel like I just want to be alone right now, or hang with my good friends.
There is a girl who is known to be super flirtatious trying super hard to have sex with me. At times it seems like a good idea, but her overall energy is turning me off. It seems like this must be what girls feel like with guys hitting on them in stupid ways. I feel like a dick like looking away when she tries to gaze me in the eyes and stuff, or not laughing at her jokes, but I'm just acting according to how I feel. There is a little issue of guilt around hurting a girl that's into me.
Also feel much increased purpose, confidence in life mission, etc. (although this started before the subs, alpha has been a little boost of confidence). At school I am much more inclined to do precisely what I want instead of what my friends or teachers tell me to do. It's great.
Most of the effects described above I would assume are from Alpha, but I am still doing magnetic mindset until I decide I don't need to anymore (which may naturally happen soon.) I enjoy the affirmations etc. and I think they have given me more charisma which has probably increased attention from women (which it doesn't seem alpha is really doing at this stage). The affirmations also make me very relaxed and I can feel myself sort of emanating positive/sexual energy afterwards.
Edit: Also had a very intense dream about my ex last night - we were deeeeeply in love just like we were in the past - it felt so warm and comfortable, woke up crying. Some other weird dreams too - that i don't remember - very vivid
RE: Alpha Male 5.0 Trial - alphatrial4 - 12-18-2012
It really kicked up last night. Lots of anxiety and depression - just left now- feel clearer than ever- super dominant- super detached. Very racy dreams as well indicating some deep issues. Gotta give magnetic mindset some cred as well, but the depth of the effect alpha is having is completely different