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RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - NOMAD - 08-14-2021

(08-14-2021, 01:43 AM)Benjamin Wrote: I'm in a bit of a mood where i'm watching Dazed and Confused (from the early 90s, never seen it before) and thinking "man there seemed to be way less bs going on back then" and wishing I could go back in time.

This is one of my favorite movies. I watch it semi-regularly.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - RTBoss - 08-14-2021

(08-14-2021, 07:51 AM)NOMAD Wrote:
(08-14-2021, 01:43 AM)Benjamin Wrote: I'm in a bit of a mood where i'm watching Dazed and Confused (from the early 90s, never seen it before) and thinking "man there seemed to be way less bs going on back then" and wishing I could go back in time.

This is one of my favorite movies. I watch it semi-regularly.

Alright, alright, alright! Great movie.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Benjamin - 08-15-2021

Yes I loved it, my observation is that even the 'nerds' or 'weirdos' in the movie were still kind of cool.. I wouldn't even want to imagine the shit they would have in it if this movie was made today. Always up for finding good 80s or 90s movies I haven't seen.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Benjamin - 08-15-2021

2 nights ago had a dream when I was being ridiculed for talking to girls.. woke up thinking about how so called 'friends' used to do that in the past. I'm not friends with them anymore.

And last night and especially today having some very strong insecurities and feelings of 'nobody is attracted to me ever' which isn't true.. funny how it went from 2 days ago getting checked out and feeling strong to this.

Yesterday hanging out with friends, for a while I was really quiet and just felt awkward and weird and just felt like sitting there and looking around, felt really 'blocked'. This is unlike me now, i'm not really a loud person but i'm fairly comfortable socially now and have no problems talking like I had in the past, yesterday was the most i've felt weird and quite like that than in a long time. Another friend come and I went and talked to him and then was a bit more relaxed again.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Shannon - 08-15-2021

Tides come in, and tides go out, but it's all progress.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Raykon - 08-16-2021

(08-14-2021, 01:43 AM)Benjamin Wrote: This morning before going out I was thinking about this girl that was coming along today who i've only met once. And I was going to put some condoms in my wallet.. which made me realize that the times i've done that in recent times it basically shuts me down and makes me feel more anxious around attractive girls, whereas if they aren't there it's like the pressure is off and i'm more relaxed. Definately fear related.

I decided I was going to confront that and thought 'well if (different things I fear) happens so be it'. But I forgot until I was driving, oh well.

Talked to her a bit, but something just felt off. When they were leaving my mate was like 'anyone wanna keep hanging out' and I was up for it, and he asked her, though her mum was there too which is fine she could have come too.. and they said they were shopping but when we said we could come along not much of a response. So looks like this one won't go anywhere.

Went for a walk with my friend, and there was a family sitting there on the grass, the daughter (I assume) were sitting in the back of a ute and one was staring and smiling and I said "how's it going?' then when we walked back past there 2 of them were sitting in there both staring at us. I had a feeling of 'ok this isn't usually what happens to me'.. but I hope that this increases in general.

Went to the supermarket and I noticed I was feeling pretty good and had a bit of a subtle swagger in my walk which happens sometimes, hopefully starts to happen more as I listen to OF more.. and I had a realization that I told my friend.

Especially in recent times with all the bs going on, it seems almost everyone walking around is more timid.. and this become even more obvious today when I was feeling strong in myself.. and since starting OF some of the blinders have come off as I had started to just go down the street and basically ignore everyone else.. and now less of that and observing them, i'm seeing some funny reactions from some of them when i'm feeling comfortable.. it's almost as if this is unusual to them right now and they think everyone needs to be walking around scared.. which isn't benefitting anyone.

I also decided to not goto self serve checkouts and make a point to get served by the staff even if I have to wait a bit.. as i've become more antisocial in the last year or so and talked to staff less. My other friend inspired me to do this when we went to the supermarket last. The girl that served me I mainly asked how the day is going, but felt a little uncomfortable with much else for some reason. But it's better than just reflexively going through the self serve.

Noticed giving a bit less of a fuck what people thought of me when walking around too.

Again tonight I don't feel like listening, but i've decided it's likely resistance as i've already had 3 nights off so I will listen tonight when I goto bed.

I'm in a bit of a mood where i'm watching Dazed and Confused (from the early 90s, never seen it before) and thinking "man there seemed to be way less bs going on back then" and wishing I could go back in time.

I noticed that too, I notice people's fears/ insecurities more now, & when I was sitting on the bus last week coming back from a party,  the guy in front of me started acting like he's uncomftorable by my self esteem. 

It was very noticeable & I didn't like the feeling it gave me to see him react to me in that way. I wish people were less threathened.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Shannon - 08-16-2021

I can remember the 1980's and even the late 1970's. Let me tell you... we have come to be drowning in fear as a society compered to even back then. I remember as a 4 year old boy being allowed to go play without parental supervision until mom called me for dinner. I was told how far I could go, and she let me go. And I would go a good block or two away sometimes, and nobody bothered me and I never had any issues.

My mother and uncles tell me stories about them doing a lot more than that. It was expected that you were not going to do stupid shit back then, and you were responsible for yourself even at a young age. They used to do things routinely like spend entire days out at the lake alone playing on the rope swings and swimming without (close) adult supervision, all summer long, every summer as kids. Stuff that now would get parents thrown in prison, when really, it's just about how they used to actually teach kids to take responsibility for themselves and their choices, own the consequences, and not do stupid shit. If the kid wants to swim at the lake, make sure they know how to swim, how to stay safe, how to watch other kids and help keep them safe and how to deal with someone having trouble in the water.
And they did all that by age 4-5-6 back then. Long gone are the days of society expecting and teaching personal responsibility for anyone under 30 now. Sometimes, even older.

And now everyone is so afraid and distrustful, and often for good reason. Given how messed up people are these days in how they think and what they do, I wouldn't for a split second let any 4 year old I have, have the level of freedom I had. Not because I don't trust the kid, who I can teach and train, but because I don't trust the whackos out there. People don't seem to have common sense or any understanding of anyone else having any value, rights, etc. anymore. It's all about themselves and whatever they can get at whatever expense to anyone else.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Raykon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 01:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: I can remember the 1980's and even the late 1970's.  Let me tell you... we have come to be drowning in fear as a society compered to even back then.  I remember as a 4 year old boy being allowed to go play without parental supervision until mom called me for dinner.  I was told how far I could go, and she let me go.  And I would go a good block or two away sometimes, and nobody bothered me and I never had any issues.  

My mother and uncles tell me stories about them doing a lot more than that.  It was expected that you were not going to do stupid shit back then, and you were responsible for yourself even at a young age.  They used to do things routinely like spend entire days out at the lake alone playing on the rope swings and swimming without adult supervision, all summer long, every summer as kids.  Stuff that now would get parents thrown in prison, when really, it's just about how they used to actually teach kids to take responsibility for themselves and their choices, own the consequences, and not do stupid shit.  If the kid wants to swim at the lake, make sure they know how to swim, how to stay safe, how to watch other kids and help keep them safe and how to deal with someone having trouble in the water.
And they did all that by age 4-5-6 back then.  Long gone are the days of society expecting and teaching personal responsibility for anyone under 30 now.  Sometimes, even older.

And now everyone is so afraid and distrustful, and often for good reason.  Given how messed up people are these days in how they think and what they do, I wouldn't for a split second let any 4 year old I have, have the level of freedom I had.  Not because I don't trust the kid, who I can teach and train, but because I don't trust the whackos out there.  People don't seem to have common sense or any understanding of anyone else having any value, rights, etc. anymore.  It's all about themselves and whatever they can get at whatever expense to anyone else.

That's interesting, I'm almost 27 years old, & I remember as early as 5 years old I was allowed to leave my house without asking for permission & go play outside all day in my complex or go walk to the store blocks away with my friends.

It's unfortunate that we have to worry about predators & such.. I'm not trying to offend anyone here but I just had a conversation with a taxi driver the other day who said there kids didn't see there own little kids for 2 years because of Covid.. No offence to anyone here but imo that's insane.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Benjamin - 08-16-2021

Definately, you even see less kids out doing stuff now.. well by that I mean before the last year and a half where alot of things haven't even been on.

And also in that time the fear of people have really ramped up. I even notice some of it in myself though i'm aware of alot of it.

The times i'm more comfortable, which i'm seeing more on OF is that it both opens most people up more but also seems to 'trigger' the insecure people more occasionally. But so be it, I want to get over the fear of that. I know in the past say on DMSI when I was feeling powerful and i'd have someone try to bring me down because of it that it would kind of shut me down a bit.. I hope to get over that shutdown. Because can't always avoid those people, but it's more the reaction to it.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Benjamin - 08-16-2021

Had the urge to increase loops, so now from 6 to 8 loops of ultrasonic at night.

I woke up this morning with more energy somehow, and feeling pretty good. I went down the street to some shops as i've not been doing so as much and felt more anxious.. so I guess the 8 loops is stirring something up.

But strangely despite that there was some things happening. In one shop a staff member was attempting to push some bs I don't agree with, and I basically just was calm, shut it down and ended up chatting to her briefly. Then after that I was looking around the shop and another woman come up to me saying " I was listening to your conversation, and you really disarmed her" and chatted to me a bit. I thought she worked there and meant that the other woman was usually difficult to customers but turns out she didn't.

And yeah it sounds good a random woman coming up to chat to me.. but she was old. Lol 

In another shop a woman that goes to toastmasters had started working there. I mentioned I started training some martial arts again and she asked for my card, like wanting to learn. And I just said "Nah I don't have a card" and "I think i'd want to do it a bit longer again before I teach others, but you can come along if you want" though now I realize I didn't really mean it, because it would take away from my and my friends training and i'd have to water it down.

But when I left I realized it may have been an excuse to get my number. I was totally oblivious to that at the time. I have seen some occasional looks she has given me across the room before. Though she smokes with is now an automatic no for me.

Mainly the whole time in shops I felt weirdly anxious. I had a thought in the middle of it 'it's almost like it's in the air' which it kind of is in recent times.. but then I realized "no, really it's my projection of how i'm feeilng.. even if it might kind of be in the air, if i'm feeling totally comfortable then that basically discharges it around me".

Since i've got home i'm struggling. First thing is i've been feeilng strangely hungry like I just want to eat random things, which I feel is a sign of something emotional being triggered. And I also really, really want to look at porn.

Which will do nothing but make me feel like shit and regret it, but knowing that logically isn't making it any less tempting. I decided to put a look of OF on and just breathe and sit with it. I've got used to hybrid again through the day after I listened the first time and then went on a porn spree and was scared to use it again for a few weeks.

Still it doesn't seem to relax me like ocean surf does.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Raykon - 08-17-2021

(08-16-2021, 09:17 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Had the urge to increase loops, so now from 6 to 8 loops of ultrasonic at night.

I woke up this morning with more energy somehow, and feeling pretty good. I went down the street to some shops as i've not been doing so as much and felt more anxious.. so I guess the 8 loops is stirring something up.

But strangely despite that there was some things happening. In one shop a staff member was attempting to push some bs I don't agree with, and I basically just was calm, shut it down and ended up chatting to her briefly. Then after that I was looking around the shop and another woman come up to me saying " I was listening to your conversation, and you really disarmed her" and chatted to me a bit. I thought she worked there and meant that the other woman was usually difficult to customers but turns out she didn't.

And yeah it sounds good a random woman coming up to chat to me.. but she was old. Lol 

In another shop a woman that goes to toastmasters had started working there. I mentioned I started training some martial arts again and she asked for my card, like wanting to learn. And I just said "Nah I don't have a card" and "I think i'd want to do it a bit longer again before I teach others, but you can come along if you want" though now I realize I didn't really mean it, because it would take away from my and my friends training and i'd have to water it down.

But when I left I realized it may have been an excuse to get my number. I was totally oblivious to that at the time. I have seen some occasional looks she has given me across the room before. Though she smokes with is now an automatic no for me.

Mainly the whole time in shops I felt weirdly anxious. I had a thought in the middle of it 'it's almost like it's in the air' which it kind of is in recent times.. but then I realized "no, really it's my projection of how i'm feeilng.. even if it might kind of be in the air, if i'm feeling totally comfortable then that basically discharges it around me".

Since i've got home i'm struggling. First thing is i've been feeilng strangely hungry like I just want to eat random things, which I feel is a sign of something emotional being triggered. And I also really, really want to look at porn.

Which will do nothing but make me feel like shit and regret it, but knowing that logically isn't making it any less tempting. I decided to put a look of OF on and just breathe and sit with it. I've got used to hybrid again through the day after I listened the first time and then went on a porn spree and was scared to use it again for a few weeks.

Still it doesn't seem to relax me like ocean surf does.

Be careful to not reject women accidently due to subconscious fear, or just being oblivious, 

I've literally had a woman suggest we go back to my house "for an hour" (she had to go somewhere after our 8 hour date that we had at a sushi restaurant we were drinking) she was one of the most beautiful woman I've ever been on a date with this was back when I was like 21 or 22, I said no, maybe due to fear, I think it was fear. 

But also just being stupid. Looking back now that was one of my biggest regrets. I'm curious to how things would have played out if she did come back. She was gorgeous & I was sexually inexperienced at the time.

You probably attract allot more women then you realize.

Nice to see the subliminal working well on you Big Grin


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Benjamin - 08-18-2021

Alot of it is usually fear, but sometimes being oblivious haha. I've had some similar ones to what you desribe before, and I usually realize after.

The main thing with her is she smokes, which is now an automatic no for me. This can be frustrating on dating sites as it lessens the amount of women, but I don't want to be with any smokers at all anymore.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - Benjamin - 08-18-2021

Things are fairly weird right now. Not a huge desire to do alot of things, but it's different. Emotions aren't that intense but occasionally a flash of anger comes up like I want to just get really angry and explode at something, but it just comes up slightly and I can't access it fully. In the past when I get 'resistance' i'd usually just want to play games, but that kind of seems boring right now even. I'm getting urges of just going out somewhere and staying for hours and just getting lost basically.

Having an urge to do something on the weekend that I hadn't in the past due to fear, thinking of doing it but fear coming up, mainly fear of not being able to cope, and a few other fears. It does carry some risk, but is something that I need to do at some point.

The other weird thing is i'm constantly getting the urge to listen, I think it's been 3 or 4 nights on, last 2 nights of 8 loops and I still feel like listening. I did 1 hybrid ocean surf earlier on headphones, and i've suddenly got the strong urge to listen again so i've put it on again on my computer speakers. I have this urge that I should just listen over and over non stop. As soon as I put it on tonight I relaxed after feeling antsy and weird.

Logically it's too much listening, but the urge to listen more and more, combined with the fact that when I started listening I immediately relaxed.. says maybe it's not too much listening. On headphones with hybrid it doesn't relax me, on speakers it did.. so maybe headphones is a bit too strong for me.


RE: Make Fear Fiction Again (OF V3) - MegaMan - 08-18-2021

Shannon once said that with this new technology there is no risk of overloading. The subs are just getting processed as soon as we stop listening.
So I'm following the same path as you, when the longing is there I layer on the loops thick until the craving is gone.

Wishing you well
MM