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RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Ale - 10-16-2019

(10-16-2019, 01:24 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 12:59 PM)Ale Wrote: About the method subject... isn't this how it always happens?

I mean, when you like someone romantically or sexually, you start thinking about that person, imagining being with them, etc.
We all do or did this when we like someone. Are we all messing with each other's free will even if we don't know about it? Or did I understand everything wrong?

There is a difference between imagination and the becoming method.  But if you knew how much and how frequently people try to manipulate eachother, much of the time without even realizing it... well, you'd be using an auric shield all the time.  The becoming method is vastly more powerful than simple imagination, or even just creative visualization.  And the more powerful stuff like this gets, the faster and harder mistakes made with them will kick you in the ass.  So it's important to use this with an understanding of what "the rules" are, and follow them.

Gotcha! Guess I'm a bit naive in this regard, since I would never try to manipulate someone. At least not consciously


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-16-2019

(10-16-2019, 12:31 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 10:58 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 10:45 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 08:38 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: LOL yeah, not sure what exact wording to use for the affirmation. Not really sure if deflowering a virgin is really such a big deal to me. There was just one woman in particular who I know is a virgin that I wanted to make my GF. Looks like I'm not ready to use the becoming method to do that though.

@Shannon  What exact affirmation should I say? And should I do it WHILE I'm imagining the scene or before or after or what?

Step one is to decide exactly what you want.  The Primary Key.  What one feature, trait or quality is most important to you?  Figure out your Primary Key.  Maybe you want a virgin, or a natural redhead, or a short girl, or a tall girl, or an Asian girl, or a girl with a Scottish brogue, or freckles.  

If you want to make that particular girl your girlfriend, using this method is dangerous until you're advanced enough that you really don't need to do it like that.  One of my instructors used to say, "Don't try to drive a nail with a nuclear bomb!"  When people first discover this sort of thing, they want to use it to do everything, even when a simple, mundane method works better, easier and more cheaply.  So it's better to just go get a hammer and hit the nail with it, metaphorically speaking.  Use the right tool for the job.

In other words... just let her know you like her, and try to get things going with her in a more normal way.

You don't need the method at all for that.  Just talk to her.  Get to know her.  Spend time with her.  Take steps to getting to where you want to be.  Ask for what you want, but know when and where and how to do that in the way that gets it for you.  Make sure she feels comfortable, instead of freaked out or awkward or afraid in response.  I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience with women.

I'm still interested in learning how to do ther becoming method though. 
What about affirmations? Do I do them while I'm in the middle of doing the becoming method? Or before? or After? What specifically shouls I say? For how long do I repeat this affirmation?

One thing at a time.  Pick affirmations or the becoming method, and become skilled and proficient with getting what you want using it.  Then you can try to combine techniques.

Which one do you recommend I start with first? Affirmations or the becoming method?


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Shannon - 10-16-2019

(10-16-2019, 01:35 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 12:31 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 10:58 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 10:45 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 08:38 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: LOL yeah, not sure what exact wording to use for the affirmation. Not really sure if deflowering a virgin is really such a big deal to me. There was just one woman in particular who I know is a virgin that I wanted to make my GF. Looks like I'm not ready to use the becoming method to do that though.

@Shannon  What exact affirmation should I say? And should I do it WHILE I'm imagining the scene or before or after or what?

Step one is to decide exactly what you want.  The Primary Key.  What one feature, trait or quality is most important to you?  Figure out your Primary Key.  Maybe you want a virgin, or a natural redhead, or a short girl, or a tall girl, or an Asian girl, or a girl with a Scottish brogue, or freckles.  

If you want to make that particular girl your girlfriend, using this method is dangerous until you're advanced enough that you really don't need to do it like that.  One of my instructors used to say, "Don't try to drive a nail with a nuclear bomb!"  When people first discover this sort of thing, they want to use it to do everything, even when a simple, mundane method works better, easier and more cheaply.  So it's better to just go get a hammer and hit the nail with it, metaphorically speaking.  Use the right tool for the job.

In other words... just let her know you like her, and try to get things going with her in a more normal way.

You don't need the method at all for that.  Just talk to her.  Get to know her.  Spend time with her.  Take steps to getting to where you want to be.  Ask for what you want, but know when and where and how to do that in the way that gets it for you.  Make sure she feels comfortable, instead of freaked out or awkward or afraid in response.  I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience with women.

I'm still interested in learning how to do ther becoming method though. 
What about affirmations? Do I do them while I'm in the middle of doing the becoming method? Or before? or After? What specifically shouls I say? For how long do I repeat this affirmation?

One thing at a time.  Pick affirmations or the becoming method, and become skilled and proficient with getting what you want using it.  Then you can try to combine techniques.

Which one do you recommend I start with first? Affirmations or the becoming method?

Affirmations are easier, but less powerful.  Becoming is more powerful, but less easy.  The rest is up to you.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Shannon - 10-16-2019

Actually, scratch that. I think you should use the becoming method, since affirmations may conflict with subliminal scripts.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Shannon - 10-16-2019

Ha ha, I just realized, this may also conflict with UMS. If the subliminal is trying to guide you to wealth and your penis is trying to guide you to sex, they are going to be trying to lead you to conflicting places. Making money eats time, and getting to sex eats time and money.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-16-2019

(10-16-2019, 01:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: Actually, scratch that.  I think you should use the becoming method, since affirmations may conflict with subliminal scripts.


Good point. 


(10-16-2019, 02:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: Ha ha, I just realized, this may also conflict with UMS.  If the subliminal is trying to guide you to wealth and your penis is trying to guide you to sex, they are going to be trying to lead you to conflicting places.  Making money eats time, and getting to sex eats time and money.

ALSO a very good point. But doesn't UMS have programming to not interfere with one's sex/love life? 

The becoming method is only 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes at night, leaving plenty of time to focus on money in between. Really, SCHOOL is the thing I'm most worried about conflicting with UMS, but then, as a 30 year old incel, I have to admit I've never been in even a short term relationship to know how much time and money dating/sex/romance eats into attempts at UMS. But the program SHOULD have a feature where it doesn't conflict with one's love/sex life. I think I might be able to balance it. I'll give it a try, since it's only 20 minutes out of my day until I get whjat I aim for. Then I'll be hooking up occasionally, but I don't intend on anything serious using it. I think I can make this work. We'll see. I AM thinking lately about how to make the most money for the least amount of startup doing Google Advertising. But that'll take some research. I'm still in contact with the MiddlemanMillionaires, who seem legit, but may not be the best option for breaking into that kind of business.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-16-2019

Woops! Double post. My bad.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Shannon - 10-16-2019

(10-16-2019, 02:18 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 01:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: Actually, scratch that.  I think you should use the becoming method, since affirmations may conflict with subliminal scripts.


Good point. 


(10-16-2019, 02:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: Ha ha, I just realized, this may also conflict with UMS.  If the subliminal is trying to guide you to wealth and your penis is trying to guide you to sex, they are going to be trying to lead you to conflicting places.  Making money eats time, and getting to sex eats time and money.

ALSO a very good point. But doesn't UMS have programming to not interfere with one's sex/love life? 

The becoming method is only 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes at night, leaving plenty of time to focus on money in between. Really, SCHOOL is the thing I'm most worried about conflicting with UMS, but then, as a 30 year old incel, I have to admit I've never been in even a short term relationship to know how much time and money dating/sex/romance eats into attempts at UMS. But the program SHOULD have a feature where it doesn't conflict with one's love/sex life. I think I might be able to balance it. I'll give it a try, since it's only 20 minutes out of my day until I get whjat I aim for. Then I'll be hooking up occasionally, but I don't intend on anything serious using it. I think I can make this work. We'll see. I AM thinking lately about how to make the most money for the least amount of startup doing Google Advertising. But that'll take some research. I'm still in contact with the MiddlemanMillionaires, who seem legit, but may not be the best option for breaking into that kind of business.

The program is designed to not interfere with your sex and love life.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-16-2019

(10-16-2019, 02:59 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 02:18 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:
(10-16-2019, 01:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: Actually, scratch that.  I think you should use the becoming method, since affirmations may conflict with subliminal scripts.


Good point. 


(10-16-2019, 02:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: Ha ha, I just realized, this may also conflict with UMS.  If the subliminal is trying to guide you to wealth and your penis is trying to guide you to sex, they are going to be trying to lead you to conflicting places.  Making money eats time, and getting to sex eats time and money.

ALSO a very good point. But doesn't UMS have programming to not interfere with one's sex/love life? 

The becoming method is only 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes at night, leaving plenty of time to focus on money in between. Really, SCHOOL is the thing I'm most worried about conflicting with UMS, but then, as a 30 year old incel, I have to admit I've never been in even a short term relationship to know how much time and money dating/sex/romance eats into attempts at UMS. But the program SHOULD have a feature where it doesn't conflict with one's love/sex life. I think I might be able to balance it. I'll give it a try, since it's only 20 minutes out of my day until I get whjat I aim for. Then I'll be hooking up occasionally, but I don't intend on anything serious using it. I think I can make this work. We'll see. I AM thinking lately about how to make the most money for the least amount of startup doing Google Advertising. But that'll take some research. I'm still in contact with the MiddlemanMillionaires, who seem legit, but may not be the best option for breaking into that kind of business.

The program is designed to not interfere with your sex and love life.

That was REALLY good foresight on your part Shannon. Thank you for that.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-17-2019

Day 6 of carpetbombing. Not noticing anything new so far, but then again, I just woke up. We'll see if any further signs of program execution display today. 

@Shannon I actually feel the need to ask, honestly... Do you think carpetbombing is still necessary at this point? We've seen signs of UMS working, although not all those signs actually panned out (like the Publix thing. And dad never did actually tell me what all the chores I needed to do for that mpney, not how much I'd be getting payed, so none of that went anywhere either) So my point is, we're seeing SOME execution, but not quite the execution I'd like to see just yet. Do you still think I need to carpetbomb for 7 days then bloom for 7 days? 

Althoygh I AM on day 6 already...


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Shannon - 10-17-2019

Keep doing 7 days on, 7 days off for a bit.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-17-2019

Okay, thanks.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - EvolvingPhoenix - 10-17-2019

I'll say this, I'm definitely feeling more optimistic and ambitipus lately. Like I can literally make anything I want in my life come true with enough dilligence and will and patience and thought. That's an improvement for sure! Can't wait until it starts executing in a way where I'm making lots of money. I intend to become rich within yhis lifetime, then find a way to bring other people up WITH me.


RE: EP UMS JOURNAL - Benjamin - 10-17-2019

I had something come up reading a few posts back that I had to bring up.

Referring to yourself as an 'incel' is something you really shouldn't be doing. It's a stupid bs term used by sjws to attack alot of men, and the people who actually identify by it and have forums and such are never the type of people you ever want to be associated to.

And the damage it does to yourself thinking in that way. It's not going to benefit you in any way.

You're just a virgin, and you can do something about that. Thinking of it in the other way will fuck you up, especially if you are part of any group that 'identifies' as that. It refers to someone who has totally given up, and you haven't, you're still moving forwards.

My friend was a virgin until around 30. We met some girls one night, I seen the one I was talking to the next day and she said that after my friend said he was a virgin her friend found it hot and if she had the chance would have taken his virginity.

If the bullshit concept of 'incel' existed back then and he instead said that. It would have been a big 'fuck no' because it entails something completely different.