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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Zane - 04-30-2018
(04-30-2018, 03:53 PM)Travis Wrote: I see the same guys on here saying they don't get results report having girls give them ass and titty displays in their journal
Rich wants to get Richer....They all want more...
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 04-30-2018
(04-30-2018, 03:53 PM)Travis Wrote: I see the same guys on here saying they don't get results report having girls give them ass and titty displays in their journal
Well, at the end people are doing DMSI because they want have some fun with the girls not just having IOIs. And tits/butt displays is something many people already got on early versions so it is nothing new and they are probably already used to it.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Ampersnd - 04-30-2018
(04-30-2018, 04:56 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:(04-30-2018, 03:53 PM)Travis Wrote: I see the same guys on here saying they don't get results report having girls give them ass and titty displays in their journal
Well, at the end people are doing DMSI because they want have some fun with the girls not just having IOIs. And tits/butt displays is something many people already got on early versions so it is nothing new and they are probably already used to it.
A millionaire flashed his cash at me; that must mean that I should stop being unsatisfied for not being rich.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - thor2014 - 04-30-2018
Agree there are no external effects. Some people report that staff in coffee shops and bars are more friendly to them. Well unless your a complete retard it's not that hard to get people to like you. If you just open your mouth and talk.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Zane - 04-30-2018
Just a random question.
Does MLS-5.5G has Morphine Drip?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 04-30-2018
All your recent posts are just trying to stir people up Thor, and now calling people retards for reporting something about DMSI. You've had too many warnings in the past, have a week off.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Determined - 04-30-2018
(04-30-2018, 07:55 PM)thor2014 Wrote: Agree there are no external effects. Some people report that staff in coffee shops and bars are more friendly to them. Well unless your a complete retard it's not that hard to get people to like you. If you just open your mouth and talk.
Lol, once you start executing you'll understand.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Dmitry - 04-30-2018
I think that DMSI is overloaded with those fancy modules... Thats why I get more results with simplier subs from Shannon (and other creators) than with DMSI.
I remember that most impact I ever had with Shannon's subs was: AM 6.0 Stage 1 (that was a miracle), E2 and DMSI 3.1A, which healed me very deeply my issues with girls.
Once again: I think that 3.2A&B is overloaded and I seriously doubt that this is about resistence itself (with or without subs the resistence will be present, BUT it is a matter of strategy of communicating with SubC).
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Have at ye - 05-01-2018
I disagree with all of you.
In ver. 3.2, DMSI is an extremely powerful program. But - the program, by itself, does nothing. In essence, it's a digital audio file with some water sounds and subliminal instructions, crafted to be as perfect as possible, yes - but still, it's sound and words. But, I repeat myself, by itself, it does nothing. The content of the subliminal messages does not execute itself (how could it?). It is the user's choice whether they execute or not.
If any part of you is refusing to execute, try this: 1. Admit to yourself that this part of you is actually "you" (singularity). 2. Figure out why you are refusing to execute. 3a. Resolve the issue that is standing in the way, by way of any mental gymnastics/healing process you gotta do. 3b. Decide that since you are you, and only you can decide what you do or not do, exercise willpower and choose to execute anyway. Reinforce the choice until it's truly made. RADICAL FREEDOM!
I'm pretty much restating what Shannon's been saying all along.
Volition, volition, volition.
[EDIT: Also: Agency, agency, agency.]
BTW., Shannon, I was thinking that for, say, ver. 3.3 auric improvements something along the lines of reinforcing the free-will of the affected side might be beneficial, f. in. communicating to the affected that yes, it is your choice whether you act on what you're feeling as regards the user and that, in truth, there is nothing stopping you from acting either way apart from your own decision to act. Or somesuch. You probably have it on your mile-long list anyway, but here it is.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Determined - 05-01-2018
Have at ye is spot on.
It's pretty stupid to blame the sub for one's own incompetence. It is (and has been said multiple times by others including Shannon) just a set of instructions. Yet numerous users return to blame DMSI for "not being powerful enough".
Being intelligent and intuitive enough to find and overcome your own blocks is a big part of this work. Being lazy and expecting the "sub to do everything" is a fools game. If you're not getting the results you desire, reassess your approach instead of hating on those who are getting it right.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Have at ye - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 01:05 AM)Determined Wrote: Have at ye is spot on.
It's pretty stupid to blame the sub for one's own incompetence. It is (and has been said multiple times by others including Shannon) just a set of instructions. Yet numerous users return to blame DMSI for "not being powerful enough".
Being intelligent and intuitive enough to find and overcome your own blocks is a big part of this work. Being lazy and expecting the "sub to do everything" is a fools game. If you're not getting the results you desire, reassess your approach instead of hating on those who are getting it right.
I'm not calling it "incompetence", or "stupidity" or anything. Philosophically speaking, the choice not to execute the script of DMSI 3.2 is as good a choice as any, and I'll not deny anyone the right to do so.
Just be mindful of the fact that it is a choice. Should you decide that you'd actually rather do something else (f. in. execute DMSI 3.2, because you might decide that you actually want to be sexually irresistible to people you find sexually attractive), nobody's stopping you either way.
Just deceive yourself not.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarkPlouf - 05-01-2018
Quote:BUT it is a matter of strategy of communicating with SubCAgree on this one. I think it's more a matter of communication than resistance. Or resistance is confused with the subconscious not understanding the user's will and what he wants.
The thing I find the most odd about that whole resistance theory is the claim that the subconscious chooses to sabotage the user and do whatever it can to stop the use of the subliminal.
Since when the subconscious has the power of decision ?
The subconscious mind has always been described as the engine that power the ship or the ship itself, not knowing where to go and only fulfilling the sole purpose of following where the captain of the ship wants to go. Whatever is impressed in the subconscious mind is expressed, because it can't argue back.
Now according to the theory of resistance, the subconscious has a will of its own, as well as the power to chose and decide for the conscious mind - by choosing NOT to listen to the captain and going where he wants to go, and even worse, by choosing to DO the opposite of what the captain wants. ("reversal resistance")
That's a contradiction from what we have knewn on the subconscious mind. That's why I'm believing less and less in resistance. And more contradictory, IF the subconscious mind can chose to ignore the captain, then trying to do something consciously is meaningless, because of that external entity (subconscious mind) which is NOT part of your will, and has a will on its own.
So it doesn't make sense.
Which one it is ? Is the power of decision solely in the hands of the conscious mind or not ? If the subconscious CAN decide and act regardless of the user's will, then that explains resistance. But that also destroy all these "take responsibility" speeches, because the user can't take responsibility for another member of the ship he can't control.
So ?? Which one is true ?
To me what makes more sense, is what have always knewn - the subconscious mind following orders and leads, not capable of deciding anything. With that basis then, subliminal programs not working can only logically be explained by:
-Subconscious mind not receiving properly the orders of the conscious mind (communication problem)
-Subconscious mind receiving the orders but not understanding a damn what is asked (communication problem)
-Subconscious mind receiving orders, understanding them partially, but carrying out different tasks, accordingly to what it understands (lack of practical materials and references)
-Subconscious mind 100% understanding the task but unable to carry it out because of lack of means and ways.
-Subconscious mind 100% understanding the task but unable to carry it out because it's not powerful enough. (which I doubt)
Which left out resistance.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarkPlouf - 05-01-2018
EDIT. Forum bugged
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Determined - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 01:12 AM)Have at ye Wrote:(05-01-2018, 01:05 AM)Determined Wrote: Have at ye is spot on.
It's pretty stupid to blame the sub for one's own incompetence. It is (and has been said multiple times by others including Shannon) just a set of instructions. Yet numerous users return to blame DMSI for "not being powerful enough".
Being intelligent and intuitive enough to find and overcome your own blocks is a big part of this work. Being lazy and expecting the "sub to do everything" is a fools game. If you're not getting the results you desire, reassess your approach instead of hating on those who are getting it right.
I'm not calling it "incompetence", or "stupidity" or anything. Philosophically speaking, the choice not to execute the script of DMSI 3.2 is as good a choice as any, and I'll not deny anyone the right to do so.
Just be mindful of the fact that it is a choice. Should you decide that you'd actually rather do something else (f. in. execute DMSI 3.2, because you might decide that you actually want to be sexually irresistible to people you find sexually attractive), nobody's stopping you either way.
Just deceive yourself not.
I'm presuming the user has already made that choice, hence why they've selected that sub.
The sub is just a tool for transformation. I agree, deceive yourself not.