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RE: Dmsi 3.3 - Shannon - 03-24-2019
So exactly what is being resisted by that part of you that is resisting, and why?
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - swisston - 03-25-2019
(03-24-2019, 02:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: So exactly what is being resisted by that part of you that is resisting, and why?
I'm not sure. I have been asking the same question. I do wonder if it's simply to prove that I can't be controlled.
Or maybe the prospect of being genuinely attractive to women is scary.
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - Shannon - 03-26-2019
Is it really important to you that you "can't be controlled"? You do realize that I'm not trying to control you. That would be taking away your freedom of choice and freedom of will, which I refuse to do; and if I were controlling you, logically, resistance would not be possible.
So my question is, why would the resistant part resist for that reason? Simply resisting successfully proves that you are not being controlled, at which point you can reasonably execute without fear of "being controlled".
You share with me a part of your personality that is very much instinctual, and it responds without referencing logic. In my case I had to consciously outgrow that instinctual response by guiding that part of myself. Being aware of when and what it was responding to. Consciously overriding it until it understood.
I'm not sure that will be easy for you, if that part of you is entirely subconscious, but I am not entirely convinced that it is.
At the conscious level, if you were going to resist the program's instructions, what would be the reason and motivation?
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - swisston - 03-27-2019
(03-26-2019, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: At the conscious level, if you were going to resist the program's instructions, what would be the reason and motivation?Fear of the consequences and being judged by my gf and others. I have seen so much harsh judgement of people who have affairs and/or cheat. I am at risk of falling into that trap if women come on to me (until I get used to it).
I was hoping that DMSI would build me up slowly to give me more confidence and charisma with women. I don't want to be a 'boy' anymore inside. I think that a balance is possible between being highly attractive and controlling one's urges. If other opportunities with other women came along, maybe I would choose to separate from my gf. I'd like to see what's available in the world to me, but I'm also scared of that unfamiliarity.
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - Shannon - 03-28-2019
(03-27-2019, 06:57 AM)swisston Wrote:(03-26-2019, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: At the conscious level, if you were going to resist the program's instructions, what would be the reason and motivation?Fear of the consequences and being judged by my gf and others. I have seen so much harsh judgement of people who have affairs and/or cheat. I am at risk of falling into that trap if women come on to me (until I get used to it).
I was hoping that DMSI would build me up slowly to give me more confidence and charisma with women. I don't want to be a 'boy' anymore inside. I think that a balance is possible between being highly attractive and controlling one's urges. If other opportunities with other women came along, maybe I would choose to separate from my gf. I'd like to see what's available in the world to me, but I'm also scared of that unfamiliarity.
It's good to see you understand these things.
So from where I am standing, it looks like what this boils down to is that you have yourself painted into a corner, and you're afraid of change because you perceive it as being a threat to your security. You want a change, but you're afraid of it at the same time.
If you are with your GF and unhappy, or with her only because she's "the devil you know", then two things are true.
1. There is a 100% chance that someone else is out there who is going to make you happier, and
2. You are in that relationship for the wrong reasons.
You can be irresistibly attractive to others without cheating, but you have to own your choices first. You have already decided that you don't want the reaction you would get from cheating, which is certainly understandable. But if you're saying that other opportunities may result in you separating from your GF, then are you really in it for the right reasons? Are you really happy? And what reasons are you in it for? It would seem that this is something you're doing to have security, and given the statement about not wanting to be a boy anymore, it reminds me of a younger version of me who would seek out women so they could be my mommy and act as my security blanket. Is that what you have done here? If that is the case, then the key is going to be growing past that, and DMSI isn't the right program for that. You're going to want something that will spur internal growth and maturity. AM6+, LTU, maybe even E3 or others. Although I'm pretty sure you would take a while to get to that point on AM6, given how much less powerful it is than current releases.
Maybe you'd be better off focusing on that instead of DMSI for the time being? Although I do find your feedback useful, I'm not sure DMSI will be going in a direction that will solve that specific point of contention for you. It looks like a pattern is emerging, where people who use DMSI when they really need something else, find that DMSI gets stuck for them.
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - Benjamin - 03-28-2019
I think it's good that we're now realizing this, that some of the people struggling with DMSI there's deeper reasons.
I've really realized my error in focusing on sex too much over the years, I did get laid more than some on DMSI, nothing crazy but it still wasn't the program I needed.. it was more just a distraction like "the other things are too difficult, i'd rather fuck."
I've REALLY had to face that issue in recent times, in ways that I don't wish to go into here. But I wish I had much earlier realized before it hit me in the face and worked on other things.
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - swisston - 03-29-2019
(03-28-2019, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: Maybe you'd be better off focusing on that instead of DMSI for the time being? Although I do find your feedback useful, I'm not sure DMSI will be going in a direction that will solve that specific point of contention for you. It looks like a pattern is emerging, where people who use DMSI when they really need something else, find that DMSI gets stuck for them.Well, I'll keep it going until the next version of UMOP. Life is pretty good at the moment, so there's no need to make any big changes.
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - Shannon - 03-29-2019
I'm curious, why UMOP? That's not going to correct these issues either.
RE: Dmsi 3.3 - swisston - 03-30-2019
Fair point. LTU it is. New journal incoming.