(08-03-2024, 06:52 AM)emiebou Wrote:

(08-02-2024, 07:01 AM)kserenyi Wrote: Since UMS v.2 contains US/LM v.4.2 already, could US/LM v.5.0 be considered a 5.11G substitute for UMS v.2 stage 4?

Based on my experience using UMS v2 and USLM 4.2, I think USLM 5.0 can only replace a portion of UMS v2 Stage 1.

@Shannon Shannon, does Brain Optimizer have a shield feature?

Quote:Btw congrats on successfully creating the 6G Alpha program!

(08-04-2024, 12:44 PM)dragonslayer Wrote: Hi @Shannon, how are you?

I haven't been taking part here in the forum because I've been running MLSV4 and am practicing what you said about Silence is Golden: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-USLM-4-2-the-golden-way-to-success?pid=242291#pid242291

I started MLSV4 on Friday, November 3, 2023 with the intention of doing the "Recommended number of run-throughs: 3 (Three)" per https://subliminal-shop.com/products/maximum-learning-speed-5-75-6g-type-a-b-c-d .

During my first run-through from Friday, November 3, 2023 to Saturday, March 2, 2024, I achieved a Certification which cost me $2,800 USD, which I believe having previously ran UMSV2 Stages 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, repeat for 15 months, helped me pay it off.

I am following the "Optimal time off required between run-throughs for best results: 6 (six) weeks" per https://subliminal-shop.com/products/maximum-learning-speed-5-75-6g-type-a-b-c-d .

I intended to run DMSI v3.5 1 week after my 1st MLSV4 run-through and 2 weeks before the 2nd run-through and was getting TIDs.

For 3 weeks of running DMSI v3.5, I was getting more than usual results such as women staring at me, presenting their butt in my view, smiles, looks; female coworkers who I don't talk to were initiating conversations; female work friends flirting more than usual; and I got my ex back before the 3 week run was done.

I also bought an unscented aluminum free crystal deodorant which I still use to this day.

I applied the suggestions on showering by rinsing off without soap except on what was absolutely needed to wash on day 1, day 2, and full soap on day 3.

I'm currently on my MLSV4 2nd run-through which ends on Sunday, August 11.

I'm going to run DMSI v3.5 again for 3 weeks during the 6 week "Optimal time required between run-throughs".

My question is: If I decide to continue running DMSI v3.5 for a longer period of time than 3 weeks and go beyond the 6 week Optimal time off, will I lose the MLSV4 programming?

I want to complete the recommended 3 MLSV4 run-throughs.

My plan after completing the 3 MLSV4 run-throughs is to run LTU which I've never run, then cycle back to MLSV4 for 1 run-through, then run OGSV2 which I've been hearing good things about as an "unleasher" or "unlocker" of previous subs. 

Also, if you have time, can you please elaborate on what you said about "Silence is Golden" since you replied that there were misunderstandings to your post https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-USLM-4-2-the-golden-way-to-success?pid=249515#pid249515 .

Thank you.

(08-04-2024, 07:09 PM)thectexperience1 Wrote: Re @dragonslayer, theoretically speaking how permanent can the results of MLS be, if one follows that lengthy protocol of three run-throughs plus the "bloom" breaks?

Congrats on 6G also Shannon. Epic ?

(08-04-2024, 01:35 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-04-2024, 12:44 PM)dragonslayer Wrote: Hi @Shannon, how are you?

I haven't been taking part here in the forum because I've been running MLSV4 and am practicing what you said about Silence is Golden: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-USLM-4-2-the-golden-way-to-success?pid=242291#pid242291

I started MLSV4 on Friday, November 3, 2023 with the intention of doing the "Recommended number of run-throughs: 3 (Three)" per https://subliminal-shop.com/products/maximum-learning-speed-5-75-6g-type-a-b-c-d .

During my first run-through from Friday, November 3, 2023 to Saturday, March 2, 2024, I achieved a Certification which cost me $2,800 USD, which I believe having previously ran UMSV2 Stages 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, repeat for 15 months, helped me pay it off.

I am following the "Optimal time off required between run-throughs for best results: 6 (six) weeks" per https://subliminal-shop.com/products/maximum-learning-speed-5-75-6g-type-a-b-c-d .

I intended to run DMSI v3.5 1 week after my 1st MLSV4 run-through and 2 weeks before the 2nd run-through and was getting TIDs.

For 3 weeks of running DMSI v3.5, I was getting more than usual results such as women staring at me, presenting their butt in my view, smiles, looks; female coworkers who I don't talk to were initiating conversations; female work friends flirting more than usual; and I got my ex back before the 3 week run was done.

I also bought an unscented aluminum free crystal deodorant which I still use to this day.

I applied the suggestions on showering by rinsing off without soap except on what was absolutely needed to wash on day 1, day 2, and full soap on day 3.

I'm currently on my MLSV4 2nd run-through which ends on Sunday, August 11.

I'm going to run DMSI v3.5 again for 3 weeks during the 6 week "Optimal time required between run-throughs".

My question is: If I decide to continue running DMSI v3.5 for a longer period of time than 3 weeks and go beyond the 6 week Optimal time off, will I lose the MLSV4 programming?

I want to complete the recommended 3 MLSV4 run-throughs.

My plan after completing the 3 MLSV4 run-throughs is to run LTU which I've never run, then cycle back to MLSV4 for 1 run-through, then run OGSV2 which I've been hearing good things about as an "unleasher" or "unlocker" of previous subs. 

Also, if you have time, can you please elaborate on what you said about "Silence is Golden" since you replied that there were misunderstandings to your post https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-USLM-4-2-the-golden-way-to-success?pid=249515#pid249515 .

Thank you.

I think you have pointed out something I made a mistake with, which was, I did not make it sufficiently clear that the optimal time off MLS should not have any subliminal usage if you plan to use it more than one time back to back.  If you use another subliminal during that time, you remove any benefit of having that time off, which is to allow the MLS script to find it's way to full integration and bloom.  My apologies for this oversight on my part.

As a result, it will not damage your MLS run, but it will also not allow it to finish developing, blooming and "setting" in your mind. 

As such, it doesn't matter how long you use DMSI.

As to "silence is golden"... that applies to manifestation.  You don't need to worry about it for other things.  But for manifestation, think of it like this.

If you want to start a bon fire, you have to first have something to create a spark.  Then you need tinder, like dry grass or moss and maybe dry pine needles.

To get the fire started, you have to gather those things up into a little pile, and then drop a spark on them and gently blow on that spark until a small flame appears. 

At this point, you have achieved fire, but it is still small and weak and vulnerable.  Now you need to make sure it has more than tinder, so you start feeding it tigs and small sticks, and more tinder and blowing gently so it has enough oxygen to grow.

Once it has taken hold in the sticks and twigs, you get bigger sticks, and feed it those, and then blow on it to get it started burning the bigger sticks, and once it is burning well on those, only then do you start feeding it large splits of wood and maybe sections of small logs.

Once it's doing well with logs, you can just feed it enough logs and it will naturally become a bon fire.

So it's simiar to this when you're manifesting.  First you decide what you want to manifest and then you start focusing on it and feeding it energy, and repeating, and developing the clarity and desire and will and intent, and so on.  And when you're finished, you get what you're trying to manifest.

But...

If during your building of the fire, you tell someone  what you're doing, and they decide they don't want you to do that because they're jealous or because they don't like you or maybe they "don't believe in fire", then they're likely to come over and dump water on your fire and tell you there's no fire, you're wrong.  And they'll be right, because there's no longer any fire.  And if they "don't believe in fire", they will point out this as proof to back up their beliefs, especially if they dumped the water on the fire while they were sleepwalking, before they could wake up and see the fire.

Likewise, if you are trying to manifest something and you tell someone what you're trying to do, then you're going to be influencing your manifestation according to whatever their response to that knowledge of what you're doing is.  If they don't care, then there's no influence.  But if they "don't believe in manifestation" or they have whatever negative response to discovering your efforts - whether that response by them is at a conscious level or subconscious - then they will act on that negative response to destroy and disrupt your manifestation, even if they don't realize they're doing it, and your manifestation will fail because it was disrupted.  And then they can claim that "manifestation doesn't work".

This is why silence is golden.  They cannot disrupt what they don't know about.

(08-04-2024, 01:40 PM)Have at ye Wrote: By the by, as far as people negatively influencing manifestation trends, is there a way to protect them? F. in. like you can shield your energy, can you shield your manifestation trends from negative interference, whatever it may be?

(08-04-2024, 04:52 PM)Sky Wrote: @Shannon I found out while running am6 stage 2 and now on stage 3, that VLC on iPhone was repeating starting at 50 minutes of the track. Does that invalidate my run-through?

(08-04-2024, 07:09 PM)thectexperience1 Wrote: Re @dragonslayer, theoretically speaking how permanent can the results of MLS be, if one follows that lengthy protocol of three run-throughs plus the "bloom" breaks?

Quote:Congrats on 6G also Shannon. Epic ?

(08-05-2024, 06:31 AM)callie Wrote: @Shannon 

So the first three days on E6 I was undervoluming, as you know. That produced a lot of resistance. After our conversation I adjusted to the instructed volume, which eliminated most of the resistance. Now I’m currently on my second day off and resistance is gradually coming back. Given that only two of my five days of listening were used with correct volume, would you still recommend I take the full five days off?

(08-05-2024, 12:54 PM)dragonslayer Wrote:

(08-04-2024, 01:35 PM)Shannon Wrote: I think you have pointed out something I made a mistake with, which was, I did not make it sufficiently clear that the optimal time off MLS should not have any subliminal usage if you plan to use it more than one time back to back.  If you use another subliminal during that time, you remove any benefit of having that time off, which is to allow the MLS script to find it's way to full integration and bloom.  My apologies for this oversight on my part.

As a result, it will not damage your MLS run, but it will also not allow it to finish developing, blooming and "setting" in your mind. 

As such, it doesn't matter how long you use DMSI.

As to "silence is golden"... that applies to manifestation.  You don't need to worry about it for other things.  But for manifestation, think of it like this.

If you want to start a bon fire, you have to first have something to create a spark.  Then you need tinder, like dry grass or moss and maybe dry pine needles.

To get the fire started, you have to gather those things up into a little pile, and then drop a spark on them and gently blow on that spark until a small flame appears. 

At this point, you have achieved fire, but it is still small and weak and vulnerable.  Now you need to make sure it has more than tinder, so you start feeding it tigs and small sticks, and more tinder and blowing gently so it has enough oxygen to grow.

Once it has taken hold in the sticks and twigs, you get bigger sticks, and feed it those, and then blow on it to get it started burning the bigger sticks, and once it is burning well on those, only then do you start feeding it large splits of wood and maybe sections of small logs.

Once it's doing well with logs, you can just feed it enough logs and it will naturally become a bon fire.

So it's simiar to this when you're manifesting.  First you decide what you want to manifest and then you start focusing on it and feeding it energy, and repeating, and developing the clarity and desire and will and intent, and so on.  And when you're finished, you get what you're trying to manifest.

But...

If during your building of the fire, you tell someone  what you're doing, and they decide they don't want you to do that because they're jealous or because they don't like you or maybe they "don't believe in fire", then they're likely to come over and dump water on your fire and tell you there's no fire, you're wrong.  And they'll be right, because there's no longer any fire.  And if they "don't believe in fire", they will point out this as proof to back up their beliefs, especially if they dumped the water on the fire while they were sleepwalking, before they could wake up and see the fire.

Likewise, if you are trying to manifest something and you tell someone what you're trying to do, then you're going to be influencing your manifestation according to whatever their response to that knowledge of what you're doing is.  If they don't care, then there's no influence.  But if they "don't believe in manifestation" or they have whatever negative response to discovering your efforts - whether that response by them is at a conscious level or subconscious - then they will act on that negative response to destroy and disrupt your manifestation, even if they don't realize they're doing it, and your manifestation will fail because it was disrupted.  And then they can claim that "manifestation doesn't work".

This is why silence is golden.  They cannot disrupt what they don't know about.

Hi @Shannon, no worries for the oversight. I should have asked you beforehand.

Does that mean that I have to do a 4th MLSV4 run-through with 6 weeks of optimal time off in between my current 2nd run-through, 3rd and 4th with no subliminal usage? 

Because I actually don't mind doing a 4th run-through since I'm enjoying what MLSV4 is doing.

I'm not going to run DMSI v3.5 or any sub in between the optimal time off because I want to experience the MLS script's full integration, bloom and "setting" in my mind.

I'm actually curious about how the MLS bloom would be like. 

Thank you also for elaborating "Silence is Golden" when it comes to manifesting.

The bonfire metaphor really drives it home.

Instead of telling my family members, friends not to criticize my goals, plans as I've done in the past, I'll keep silent until they're bonfires.

Also, congratulations on 6G.