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RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - DarkPlouf - 04-09-2018
Quote:So looks like the "amnesia" could be fear related but that doesn't change the fact that my social skills are still mess.Yes. I think it's fear. No, I'm persuaded...
It's a paralyzing and irrational fear.
I've noticed that when I feel high, I get uninhibited. That results in having flawless social skills.
We gotta find a way to deal with that fear of women/sex/social interaction/unknow.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Shawn - 04-10-2018
I mentioned yesterday that the fear isn't probably only related to women and today it got more clear. I had a meeting with a guy from another department, nothing special at all and I felt a bit uncomfortable at this meeting like often in such situations. I knew the discomfort was somehow there because I didn't want to make any mistakes. So far nothing special but after the meeting ended I was thinking about the discomfort and suddendly something shiftet. That moment I could go beyond the surface really feel what happens under the surface and what I felt wasn't only slight discomfort, it felt like agony and I noticed I was almost shaking inside. Then I asked myself why is fear of failure causing that and it was like there was a younger version of me who feared physical punishement if he makes some mistake. And it went even beyond that. It is about knowing others expectation and fulfilling them perfectly to be able to survive. This was pretty much the sentence I got into my head.
So I don't know what happened back then, I don't even know if it really happened or was just perceived as life threatening, but it seems like it put me into survival mode and the survival mode is to avoid other people so I can't make mistakes (in their eyes) and I can survive. So it doesn't surprise me anymore that I resist DMSI as it tries to do exact the opposite and put me into the spotlight. It would be great if that could be cleared out for good.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Tesla - 04-11-2018
I have a suggestion: When interacting with a female, you should try operating with a frame that you essentially "Own their pussy." While it may seem vulgar, it helps with cultivating both a prize and abundance mentality, while also doing something else that is a little magical:
It makes everything you say have almost a seductive undertone to it. Try it out. Whenever you're interacting with a female you are attracted to, mentally repeat in your head as you look into her eyes "I own your pussy." Thinking, behaving, and acting within this frame will turn your affirmation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Works wonders for me. Cheers.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Sanbosay - 04-11-2018
(04-11-2018, 07:40 AM)Tesla Wrote: I have a suggestion: When interacting with a female, you should try operating with a frame that you essentially "Own their pussy." While it may seem vulgar, it helps with cultivating both a prize and abundance mentality, while also doing something else that is a little magical:
It makes everything you say have almost a seductive undertone to it. Try it out. Whenever you're interacting with a female you are attracted to, mentally repeat in your head as you look into her eyes "I own your pussy." Thinking, behaving, and acting within this frame will turn your affirmation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Works wonders for me. Cheers.
You also need mad confidence to pull this move
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Shawn - 04-11-2018
(04-11-2018, 08:02 AM)Sanbosay Wrote:(04-11-2018, 07:40 AM)Tesla Wrote: I have a suggestion: When interacting with a female, you should try operating with a frame that you essentially "Own their pussy." While it may seem vulgar, it helps with cultivating both a prize and abundance mentality, while also doing something else that is a little magical:
It makes everything you say have almost a seductive undertone to it. Try it out. Whenever you're interacting with a female you are attracted to, mentally repeat in your head as you look into her eyes "I own your pussy." Thinking, behaving, and acting within this frame will turn your affirmation into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Works wonders for me. Cheers.
You also need mad confidence to pull this move
Still, doesn't hurt to try. At least starting thinking this and see how much your frame changes to the outside.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Shawn - 04-13-2018
After a lot of consideration I decided to quit DMSI few days ago. The main reasons are all the tiredness and lack of sleep - probably because of resistance - in first place, which went so far that I experienced microsleep at work a few times. On the other hand I started using this sub about two years ago, with about 1,5 years active usage and I am still not even close to the goal. In fact at this time I feel like moving away from goal. I am sure I will try final again, but for now I don't want to continue doing something that is not working for me. In the next few week I am just trying to regenerate and use only the sleep aid. After that I still have to decide what to do. I am also considering OF 5G as it is focused on my main problem - fears - but I don't know how deep and permanent the 5G version is able to clear this stuff. Yes, I know 3.2A has the most advanced healing but I simply cannot handle this sub in long term. I stil have some thoughts about DMSI at all which I will post later or tomorrow when I am not that tired.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Benjamin - 04-13-2018
I feel you on that, the tiredness was brutal.. i'm 2 weeks in and this last week it's started getting a bit better. But energy for the gym is very low. Plus putting on some fat when i've not been eating much more than before.
The other part about being on DMSI for so long.. i've been struggling with that thought too. Just hoping that the new version will give me what i've wanted, though 9 months of the last 2 versions didn't.
On 3.1 it was constantly like "Ok I seem to be healing something.. it's just around the corner" yet it never really reached it.
Though I said in a post earlier that the 'execution' of having a warm breath and such i'm pretty sure i've felt that (though briefly) more in a few weeks of 3.2 than the whole time on 3.1. But I haven't noticed any extra attention from girls since the first day of usage.
I also feel the same that i'm further away from the goal. It feels like the more healing i've done the worse my results with women. Like I come up against my abandonment issues, worked on them and met my mum.. and now things are worse in this area. Even with brainspotting things moved forward with the area of my friendships after having problems since AM6 but worse results with women.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Shawn - 04-15-2018
The healing seems to continue after stopping as in the last few days I have had fear related dreams. One of them was also sexual related but can't remember details. The last one I remember was about some alien beings trying to turn human into alien by toching them. The process seemed similar to what Agent Smith did to Neo in Matrix 2. But I could resist the transformation process and so I saved myself and the president, lol. Still, it was hard to resist and there was some fear that I can't make it.
On other note I noticed that my fear of spiders decreased noticeable on DMSI 3.2. Saying this I need to point out that it already happened on 3.2 B(!) but it seemed even to improve further. I had this fear all my life long and it went so far that I turned off image loading in my browser when I knew a website could contain a picture of a spider. Two days ago I was at a website with a really big picture of a spider with all the details and I really took a long look at the picture as I wanted to see all the details. I even had a thought of going to a spider exhibition. This would have been completely unthinkable before. Not saying I am completely comfortable but in comparison to before it is an immense improvement. So I don't know what spiders have to do with getting laid but I am glad it was taken care of.
I still want to write some thoughts I had about DMSI but didn't have much time until now. I hope I can do it in the next few days.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Shawn - 04-21-2018
Wasn't able to write sooner something but now it comes. So I still believe that this version is potent but I experienced a huge amount of resistance and it looks like some others, too. I think one reason for the resistance are the modules which are trying to patch all the holes. On one side because they make escape more difficult but on the other side it is like telling the user even more what to do and what not to do which may make some personality types resist even more. Anyway, I don't thik all the restriction are really helping, because they only trying to cure the symptoms and not the root of the cause, which is some fear or trauma or similar. And I don't think patching all holes is even possible. I mean what if someone decides to move in another place where meeting women is less likely after listening to DMSI. Are we going to forbid it? What if someone choose to become a catholic priest and practice celibate? Are we building some sort of anti-priest-module? What if someone becomes gay to escape having to deal with women (Not saying it was happening here but one day after stopping I saw this guy and was thinking about his attractiveness, never happened before in my life)? The ways to escape are pretty much endless, but let's assume for a moment we patched all holes, what then? The user executes and has sex, but is the sex good? And pleasant? Or does the trauma and the bad feeling comes up which is the reason he did avoid the situation until now? I am talking here somewhat from experience because as I realized the last time I had sex (I paid for that, so not DMSI related) how many negative feelings are there when this happens and the most enjoyment just happens on an intellectual level. So the only way to success I see is:
- Clearing all GSF/traume related to the goal
- Heal whatever was hurt due to these feelings
- Clear old beliefs and install new ones
- Make the user act on these new beliefs (or at least let them happen)
because the fear or possible trauma(s) are the root of the problem, the creative ways to escpae are just symptoms. I mean, nobody would watch porn, masturbate, play videogames or drink if he could fuck a hot woman if he had no blockages toward it. Until now version A was trying to execute and heal at the same time. But maybe we need to change that to have success and make version A more healing heavy and making healing and execution a step-by-step thing in terms of:
Code:
do {
try {
ExecuteScript();
success = true;
}
catch(Exception e) {
ExecuteHealing();
}
} while(success == false);instead of executing simultaneously. Maybe it wouldn't cause that much stress for the user.
Another thing I was thinking about was the fear module. As far I can see we are trying to clear all fears and I agree that we don't neet fear if we have knowledge to handle a problem. But maybe we need some fear in situations where we don't have enough knowledge to handle a problem so clearing all fears may cause resistance if this is not considered as safe. So maybe need to cover that case better. Just a thought I had.
Anyway, as my biggest problems are fears I want to run OF. Still have to wait a bit as the 30+ days period is not over but I was asking myself if OF wouldn't make a good focusfire sub? So far for now.
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Zane - 05-21-2018
Are u still on DMSI?
RE: DMSI 3.2 - B and A - Shawn - 05-21-2018
(05-21-2018, 08:26 AM)Zane Wrote: Are u still on DMSI?
No