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RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-09-2016
Shannon,
I feel like I'm in a strange reality. I've seen a number of very attractive women over the past 7 days, and had almost zero interest in any of them, as in no motivation to get to know them or invite them out. Very little reaction in my body other than the idea "Yeh, she's very hot." Perhaps a bit of momentary emotional excitement, which soon dissipates.
Is this part of some growth of being high value? Is this a phase? Where are the ones I'm supposed to be interested in? I'm quite confused about this.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Shannon - 11-09-2016
I don't have all the answers. I can only see so much of what's going on with you. It could be a high value response, but then, it could be something else. I don't know. Not enough information.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-09-2016
Shannon,
I appreciate your honesty. Perhaps in a few days or so things will become more clear.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Benjamin - 11-09-2016
Sounds like somethings adjusting and you aren't quite used to it yet.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-09-2016
@Benjamin
Got that right!
I'm also one to assume it's something wrong with me rather than it's a sign of my increased sexiness.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-09-2016
Shannon,
Another recent phenomenon. I'm noticing more and more that women are doing the "counter defense". They put an object between me and them. Usually, I think that's an indication of needing security, comfort, or protection. Yet these are the same women who will look at me in a dreamy sort of way as they talk with me from behind the counter.
Does the aura need more comfort? Is this another example of the aura being lopsided? I don't know, but I'd appreciate your thoughts because I always worry it's something I'm doing wrong rather than I'm more sexy or they need to "get control" of their intense sexual feelings and so forth.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Shannon - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 06:25 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,
Another recent phenomenon. I'm noticing more and more that women are doing the "counter defense". They put an object between me and them. Usually, I think that's an indication of needing security, comfort, or protection. Yet these are the same women who will look at me in a dreamy sort of way as they talk with me from behind the counter.
Does the aura need more comfort? Is this another example of the aura being lopsided? I don't know, but I'd appreciate your thoughts because I always worry it's something I'm doing wrong rather than I'm more sexy or they need to "get control" of their intense sexual feelings and so forth.
The defense of placing a physical object between you and herself has one or both of two causes.
It can be useful to hide some part of her body from sight... and it can be useful to prevent physically getting closer.
Let's imagine she realizes she has stiff nippies all of a sudden because you're just too damned sexy, and she wants to fuck. But she is in public and it's inappropriate. She may be embarrassed, so he may try to hide her nippies of obviousness from you by crossing her arms, or standing behind something that blocks your view.
What happens if she's worried that she's so wet that you could see a wet spot? Or worse yet, she begins to smell her own sexual arousal odors and starts worrying that you might also...
A lot of possibilities on that one.
The other one could go one of three ways.
Maybe she doesn't trust herself not to touch you, start something, do something inappropriate, or come on to you. Maybe she doesn't trust you not to. Maybe she doesn't trust herself OR you in that regard!
I can't say for sure which one it would be.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-09-2016
Shannon,
I appreciate your input. Based on what you wrote, I'm thinking about some other things. If you could give some input on some more points.
1) As I'm thinking about this... A number of these women who have done "counter defense" tend to be on the shy side I think. For others, it just started recently. Say 5 days ago, maximum. In fact, there was a time in the not so distant past with v2.5 when women were standing REALLY close to me. Less than 12 inches. Some even inches away from me. Some were even "accidentally" touching me quite a bit. Now, the "counter defense" has started in full force.
2) Men seem to feel REALLY at ease and comfortable around me. Like I'm a good friend. Again this is a fairly recent phenomenon.
3) Women seem to need to move around. Some even start doing what I would call "slow agitation". They will seem to move about slowly and randomly in an area of about 2 square feet and act a bit playful and maybe even childish, and sometimes look at random areas rather than making eye contact with me or being focused on any one thing. Like their minds are wandering. They even start saying spontaneous simple things such as "I like this" or "I don't like that". (Any thoughts about what that means?)
4) Now back to the "counter defense". While it's entirely possible that it could be all about her not trusting herself or her wanting to hide, let's put the ball firmly in my court.
Let's suppose for a moment that it's that she doesn't trust me; since it's about me I can control it perhaps. I can change what I might be doing; I can't control her trusting her self (at least I don't think I can...). So let's direct this back to me.
What might you recommend I do to make it so she can trust me more?
I know you don't know me well, but if you have any input, I'd appreciate it.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - bits - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 06:25 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,
Another recent phenomenon. I'm noticing more and more that women are doing the "counter defense". They put an object between me and them. Usually, I think that's an indication of needing security, comfort, or protection. Yet these are the same women who will look at me in a dreamy sort of way as they talk with me from behind the counter.
Does the aura need more comfort? Is this another example of the aura being lopsided? I don't know, but I'd appreciate your thoughts because I always worry it's something I'm doing wrong rather than I'm more sexy or they need to "get control" of their intense sexual feelings and so forth.
(11-09-2016, 08:21 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,
I appreciate your input. Based on what you wrote, I'm thinking about some other things. If you could give some input on some more points.
1) As I'm thinking about this... A number of these women who have done "counter defense" tend to be on the shy side I think. For others, it just started recently. Say 5 days ago, maximum. In fact, there was a time in the not so distant past with v2.5 when women were standing REALLY close to me. Less than 12 inches. Some even inches away from me. Some were even "accidentally" touching me quite a bit. Now, the "counter defense" has started in full force.
2) Men seem to feel REALLY at ease and comfortable around me. Like I'm a good friend. Again this is a fairly recent phenomenon.
3) Women seem to need to move around. Some even start doing what I would call "slow agitation". They will seem to move about slowly and randomly in an area of about 2 square feet and act a bit playful and maybe even childish, and sometimes look at random areas rather than making eye contact with me or being focused on any one thing. Like their minds are wandering. They even start saying spontaneous simple things such as "I like this" or "I don't like that". (Any thoughts about what that means?)
4) Now back to the "counter defense". While it's entirely possible that it could be all about her not trusting herself or her wanting to hide, let's put the ball firmly in my court.
Let's suppose for a moment that it's that she doesn't trust me; since it's about me I can control it perhaps. I can change what I might be doing; I can't control her trusting her self (at least I don't think I can...). So let's direct this back to me.
What might you recommend I do to make it so she can trust me more?
I know you don't know me well, but if you have any input, I'd appreciate it.
IMO it's not a matter of trust but rather intimidation, not in a bad way but they're intimidated in the same way you may be intimidated if a super model was eying you up. Most guys would probably freeze up, become introverted, etc.
In regards to #2 I would place that under the "respect" category - this is often the case with sexual pheromones or subliminals like am6 or sm3. Guys pick up that you must be good with women so they can either view you as a threat or an ally, most of the time it will be an ally hence the buddy buddy behavior.
The fidgeting and impulsive talking are also signs of attraction/arousal, it's probably a way to get your attention without being obvious about it due to the intimidation factor. They want you to notice but if you did it an overt way they would turn shy/introverted so this approach feels safer for them.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-09-2016
@bits
Thank you for your input. I appreciate your opinion because you seem objective and level headed, and I don't want to delusionally over-interpret women's responses in the sexual direction. You know those men who think "Oh, she looked at me. She wants me." When really she was just scanning the room.
Your analysis makes sense!
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Shannon - 11-09-2016
What bits said. Agitation is frequently an expression of more sexual energy/desire/arousal than they know what to do with or have an easy outlet for.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-13-2016
Shannon,
As an update, people in general seem to really like me. I'm used to being liked, but this seems like a whole new level of popularity I'm experiencing.
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Steven - 11-13-2016
Shannon said,
1) "I used to have a serious weakness for trailer trash natural redheads. I think they sense intelligence and education as a disqual from the man in a lot of cases. If he is more intelligent or educated, they tend to feel inferior and therefore not compatible/not good enough. He's so good/high value that she cannot compete and this threatens her sense of self esteem. The reason trailer trash girls are so sexual is because without the intellect or education, that's what they can gain value from: looks and sex."
You did put something in there to compensate for a woman auto-disqualifying her self?
Such as: "cause those affected to invalidate and ignore any and all reasons for doing anything other than having sex with the user", and "there is already a familiarity and level of comfort present that would result from having already had amazing sex with the user, and being comfortable with approaching and initiating, regardless of the stunning nature of their status and good looks."
2) I was also thinking about the "must ****, now and forever" wording to "must ****, now and as often and for as long as the user of DMSI wants to".
3) Also about the nonstop pornographic fantasies the affected have, are you able to qualify it in a way they will feel good about these fantasies to the point they act effectively to actually have sex with the user. I realize that might be the intent, but would it help to specify?
RE: DMSI v2.5 - Shannon - 11-13-2016
(11-13-2016, 10:27 AM)Steven Wrote: Shannon said,
1) "I used to have a serious weakness for trailer trash natural redheads. I think they sense intelligence and education as a disqual from the man in a lot of cases. If he is more intelligent or educated, they tend to feel inferior and therefore not compatible/not good enough. He's so good/high value that she cannot compete and this threatens her sense of self esteem. The reason trailer trash girls are so sexual is because without the intellect or education, that's what they can gain value from: looks and sex."
You did put something in there to compensate for a woman auto-disqualifying her self?
Such as: "cause those affected to invalidate and ignore any and all reasons for doing anything other than having sex with the user", and "there is already a familiarity and level of comfort present that would result from having already had amazing sex with the user, and being comfortable with approaching and initiating, regardless of the stunning nature of their status and good looks."
Right now I am aiming to snipe the hell out of people who match the features and qualities that the user finds attractive and valuable in a sexual partner, and overcome self disqualification through that and through the feeling of comfort and approach-ability they get from the user. After all, we don't want people who aren't interesting to auto-disqualify, do we? And if that proves insufficient in 3.0.1, then we'll take it from there.
Quote:2) I was also thinking about the "must ****, now and forever" wording to "must ****, now and as often and for as long as the user of DMSI wants to".
"now and forever" is not a literal. It's a potential. I have yet to model which is the best specific choice of words for that section.
Quote:3) Also about the nonstop pornographic fantasies the affected have, are you able to qualify it in a way they will feel good about these fantasies to the point they act effectively to actually have sex with the user. I realize that might be the intent, but would it help to specify?
I'm aiming to cause them to have the fantasies because they are so attracted to and interested in the user, and they are obviously going to fantasize what they want and enjoy. The fantasies are designed to focus them on not just the user, but specifically having sex with the user, whether or not they are being directly affected or in the user's presence; this is also a signal to the conscious mind, which will interpret it in such a way as to maximize the chance that they will be open to and act on their sexual arousal and interest, and make them most open to advance from the user as well.
Of course I;m using the fantasies to achieve the program goal. But it's not just a "charge straight forward" type of approach.