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RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 04-25-2015
Decided that when the new EPRHA comes out, I'll be running it instead of this version.
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 04-29-2015
Day 44: Been noticing how badly I sleep recently. It's not that the problem is recent, I have always been a very light sleeper and I think it comes from anxiety. In addition when I wake up I feel incredibly stiff all over my body and have a lot of tension all over. This lasts the whole day and usually settles down by the time I'm getting ready to go to bed. One of the reasons why I want to run OF so bad, or at least in combination with EPHRA.
I've been thinking about how fear is actually the biggest obstacle on our way to anywhere we want to go. Even facing our emotions with EPRHA, fear can set us back and keep us from taking action necessary to let the emotions surface. Or letting AM do it's job, simply by a fear of what we might become or fear of change. Always switching subs? Fear of missing out. I'm surprised how so many people here don't realize just how big of a part fear is in their lives, but on the other hand, neither did I not long ago.
I picked up the book "Power of Now" again and started reading it. I see that there's a lot of good stuff, but something keeps bothering me about it. I feel like doing what he suggests can certainly help in becoming more peaceful, but at the same time the scars and unhealed emotions stay and keep affecting our actions subconsciously. If we are healed internally doesn't being in the present become our natural state?
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 05-02-2015
Been on 21h/day for almost 3 weeks now. Going to cut down to 19h for a while and see if it helps more. 21 might be a bit too much for me, maybe more rest gives me better results!
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Geodude - 05-02-2015
Great choice on choosing OF following EPHRA! I think we have the same thought process about things. When I ran LTU for example, the only thing lacking was fear destruction. OGSF helps but pales in comparison to the direct approach of running OF by itself. Not taking anything away from EPHRA. It helped me tremendously and I'm glad I ran it. I've had 2 friends purchase OF and they both quit after like a week due to the resistance. I believe that EPHRA "clears the way", so to speak, so it will be significantly smoother for you.
As a former sufferer of anxiety, you will be astounded at how much OF will change your life. Like me, for instance, my way of coping with anxiety was to stay shut up in my room all day. I did that for 15 years. I still have some of those habits. When you see those anxiety-created, hard-wired habits that you've identified with for many years dissolve around you...It's an extraordinary experience.
Your link from Millionaire Fastlane was right on. 90% of "gurus" or "coaches" will just say, "TAKE ACTION TAKE ACTION TAKE ACTION" which is okay, but to me is like pushing your car in neutral: you're moving forward, but it's slow and painful.
Changing who you're being transitions from forcing yourself to do something, to being excited to do something, thus increasing productivity to insane levels.
I've known that for a while, but it's come to my attention that it's absolutely mandatory to
1. Destroy fear with tapping or sub or whatever works.
2. Meditate in some form every day.
3. Visualize or similar to step into "beingness" every day.
EDIT: The 2nd link starts with "change is hard". That's a limiting belief. You're making deep positive transformations in your sleep with the subs. Change is easy!
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 05-02-2015
(05-02-2015, 07:57 AM)Geodude Wrote: Great choice on choosing OF following EPHRA! I think we have the same thought process about things. When I ran LTU for example, the only thing lacking was fear destruction. OGSF helps but pales in comparison to the direct approach of running OF by itself. Not taking anything away from EPHRA. It helped me tremendously and I'm glad I ran it. I've had 2 friends purchase OF and they both quit after like a week due to the resistance. I believe that EPHRA "clears the way", so to speak, so it will be significantly smoother for you.
As a former sufferer of anxiety, you will be astounded at how much OF will change your life. Like me, for instance, my way of coping with anxiety was to stay shut up in my room all day. I did that for 15 years. I still have some of those habits. When you see those anxiety-created, hard-wired habits that you've identified with for many years dissolve around you...It's an extraordinary experience.
Your link from Millionaire Fastlane was right on. 90% of "gurus" or "coaches" will just say, "TAKE ACTION TAKE ACTION TAKE ACTION" which is okay, but to me is like pushing your car in neutral: you're moving forward, but it's slow and painful.
Changing who you're being transitions from forcing yourself to do something, to being excited to do something, thus increasing productivity to insane levels.
I've known that for a while, but it's come to my attention that it's absolutely mandatory to
1. Destroy fear with tapping or sub or whatever works.
2. Meditate in some form every day.
3. Visualize or similar to step into "beingness" every day.
EDIT: The 2nd link starts with "change is hard". That's a limiting belief. You're making deep positive transformations in your sleep with the subs. Change is easy!
Shannon is adding the whole OF script into the new eprha so I'll be running that instead. You seem to be doing great on OF, that's one of the things that made it click for me the most.
I'd say I'm most proud about how I have come to be very transparent in how I am with people, I'm quite certain that eprha was the sub that triggered it the most. I have always tried to create masks for myself to appear "okay" in every situation and it's not easy to remove all of them, it's one of the biggest leaps I have made. Remove the lies and you can really start growing. Sometimes I fall back to my old behaviour, but it feels foreign now, so it shouldn't be long until I reject it completely.
I like your edit, what I believe is that there really is no easy or hard. It's hard if we make it hard for ourselves.
I've started to think that all of those self help books are really not that necessary plus they might slow one down. Say there is someone who is incredibly successful in life, successful as in they are very calm and positive most of the time, they don't overdo everything, they just flow with life, yet they are very honest with their actions and open with who they are. And then there's someone for who it doesn't click, stuck in problems, needs to work "hard" and fight against the stream. How do you get from that dreadful life to the fulfilling, happy life?
I think the deep work needs to be done, there's no other way. Most of the LOA books are very dangerous in those terms, they might give the impression that suppressing negative feelings is okay. It's sad seeing someone who writes a whole book about how when you change your feelings to positive then you get everything and at the end of the book there's: The author has passed away from lung cancer at the age of 50. Sad because now someone who is in a bad place might take some of the bad advice and end up in a horrible place in life.
Thanks for the post Geo.
EDIT: I noticed that some of the things that I wrote weren't quite clear or didn't make much sense, so I edited a bit. Wrote it when I was incredibly tired.
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 05-03-2015
Watched the movie "Kingsman the secret service" and couldn't stop thinking about the 6g prototype testing that Shannon reported when I saw one of the scenes. Could this really become reality?
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 05-04-2015
Read Shannon's new entry and my jaw dropped to the floor in excitement.
Regarding EPRHA I've been feeling incredibly low on self esteem lately, it might just be that I'm noticing it more now though. Something else I haven't mentioned before is that sometimes I feel feminine on this sub which bugs me a lot, fearful and feminine. Pretty much the opposite to how I felt on ASC. I naturally cross my legs and have to consciously resist doing that, maybe I just lack testosterone, no clue. It might also be that I feel childlike, regardless it's a vulnerable and weak state.
I wouldn't mind feeling the childlike excitement toward life and the curiosity, but it would have to come with confidence and masculinity.
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - SargeMaximus - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 05:02 AM)Natious Wrote: Read Shannon's new entry and my jaw dropped to the floor in excitement.
Regarding EPRHA I've been feeling incredibly low on self esteem lately, it might just be that I'm noticing it more now though. Something else I haven't mentioned before is that sometimes I feel feminine on this sub which bugs me a lot, fearful and feminine. Pretty much the opposite to how I felt on ASC. I naturally cross my legs and have to consciously resist doing that, maybe I just lack testosterone, no clue. It might also be that I feel childlike, regardless it's a vulnerable and weak state.
I wouldn't mind feeling the childlike excitement toward life and the curiosity, but it would have to come with confidence and masculinity.
What's wrong with crossing your legs? o.O
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 02:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-04-2015, 05:02 AM)Natious Wrote: Read Shannon's new entry and my jaw dropped to the floor in excitement.
Regarding EPRHA I've been feeling incredibly low on self esteem lately, it might just be that I'm noticing it more now though. Something else I haven't mentioned before is that sometimes I feel feminine on this sub which bugs me a lot, fearful and feminine. Pretty much the opposite to how I felt on ASC. I naturally cross my legs and have to consciously resist doing that, maybe I just lack testosterone, no clue. It might also be that I feel childlike, regardless it's a vulnerable and weak state.
I wouldn't mind feeling the childlike excitement toward life and the curiosity, but it would have to come with confidence and masculinity.
What's wrong with crossing your legs? o.O
With men, open legs generally show confidence and dominance while closed legs show defensiveness, insecurity and negativity. On ASC, I rarely crossed my legs, I clearly remember that and I also slept in a very wide space taking way on my back as opposed to often sleeping in a fetal position on eprha.
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - AlphaMind - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 03:04 PM)Natious Wrote:(05-04-2015, 02:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-04-2015, 05:02 AM)Natious Wrote: Read Shannon's new entry and my jaw dropped to the floor in excitement.
Regarding EPRHA I've been feeling incredibly low on self esteem lately, it might just be that I'm noticing it more now though. Something else I haven't mentioned before is that sometimes I feel feminine on this sub which bugs me a lot, fearful and feminine. Pretty much the opposite to how I felt on ASC. I naturally cross my legs and have to consciously resist doing that, maybe I just lack testosterone, no clue. It might also be that I feel childlike, regardless it's a vulnerable and weak state.
I wouldn't mind feeling the childlike excitement toward life and the curiosity, but it would have to come with confidence and masculinity.
What's wrong with crossing your legs? o.O
With men, open legs generally show confidence and dominance while closed legs show defensiveness, insecurity and negativity. On ASC, I rarely crossed my legs, I clearly remember that and I also slept in a very wide space taking way on my back as opposed to often sleeping in a fetal position on eprha.
Nope. Crossing legs doesn't mean weak (insecure, defensive, ain't open). It doesn't matter. If your vibe is bad regardless of how you maintain body language it still be perceived as sh1t; although, hacking body language (by following the instructed body language) could increase your mood.
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - SargeMaximus - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 05:34 PM)AlphaMind Wrote:(05-04-2015, 03:04 PM)Natious Wrote:(05-04-2015, 02:14 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-04-2015, 05:02 AM)Natious Wrote: Read Shannon's new entry and my jaw dropped to the floor in excitement.
Regarding EPRHA I've been feeling incredibly low on self esteem lately, it might just be that I'm noticing it more now though. Something else I haven't mentioned before is that sometimes I feel feminine on this sub which bugs me a lot, fearful and feminine. Pretty much the opposite to how I felt on ASC. I naturally cross my legs and have to consciously resist doing that, maybe I just lack testosterone, no clue. It might also be that I feel childlike, regardless it's a vulnerable and weak state.
I wouldn't mind feeling the childlike excitement toward life and the curiosity, but it would have to come with confidence and masculinity.
What's wrong with crossing your legs? o.O
With men, open legs generally show confidence and dominance while closed legs show defensiveness, insecurity and negativity. On ASC, I rarely crossed my legs, I clearly remember that and I also slept in a very wide space taking way on my back as opposed to often sleeping in a fetal position on eprha.
Nope. Crossing legs doesn't mean weak (insecure, defensive, ain't open). It doesn't matter. If your vibe is bad regardless of how you maintain body language it still be perceived as sh1t; although, hacking body language (by following the instructed body language) could increase your mood.
I tend to agree with alpha mind. Where did you read that Natious?
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - eternity - 05-04-2015
closed legs showing defensiveness isn't a telltale sign in and of itself. you really need to look at the body as a whole rather than just the legs. two people sitting next to each other with their legs crossed towards each other could be a sign that those two are comfortable with each other. when the body is angled towards that person's direction, it indicates more intimacy and usually couples will sit crossing legs towards each other, and their bodies will be facing each other's direction (but not entirely facing each other, if that makes sense)
if someone's legs are crossed away from you, does that mean the person doesn't like you? possible but not necessarily always the case. if the person's body is facing away from you, then it's more likely.
arms crossed, legs crossed, hunched over is a scenario when it's easy to pin as insecurity and defensive.
http://westsidetoastmasters.com/resources/book_of_body_language/chap10.html
in a context of people's body language while standing
Quote:while open legs can show openness or dominance, crossed legs shows a closed, submissive or defensive attitude as they symbolically deny any access to the genitals
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - Natious - 05-05-2015
I see your point and agree that it depends on the situation, especially if you try to read others, however I was commenting on Sarge's post to explain why I said that and I had already accounted all the other indicators from observing myself before I posted that, open/crossed legs were easy to spot as a difference between when I was feeling confident on ASC and now on EPRHA. Generally it's still a defensive body language gesture.
day 50: I remember 2 dreams, one was incredibly awesome, other was incredibly gore.
First one was something about Emma Roberts, sadly can't remember much.
The second one was me and 2 guys were going to some deep Vietnam forest and traded something for gold with some family, one of the 2 guys started shouting and killed the father and kid. A bit later the mother held a knife to toward the killer and they both agreed that she'd saw off all of the killer's limbs and teeth, which I saw happening. Felt sick and horrified for 10 minutes after waking up.
RE: Natious on EPRHA again - SargeMaximus - 05-05-2015
(05-05-2015, 01:22 AM)Natious Wrote: I see your point and agree that it depends on the situation, especially if you try to read others, however I was commenting on Sarge's post to explain why I said that and I had already accounted all the other indicators from observing myself before I posted that, open/crossed legs were easy to spot as a difference between when I was feeling confident on ASC and now on EPRHA. Generally it's still a defensive body language gesture.
Hmm, I dunno man. I'm lounging on a couch right now as I type this with crossed legs (at the ankle) and a definite hunch. No one is in the house but me however.
(05-05-2015, 01:22 AM)Natious Wrote: day 50: I remember 2 dreams, one was incredibly awesome, other was incredibly gore.
First one was something about Emma Roberts, sadly can't remember much.
The second one was me and 2 guys were going to some deep Vietnam forest and traded something for gold with some family, one of the 2 guys started shouting and killed the father and kid. A bit later the mother held a knife to toward the killer and they both agreed that she'd saw off all of the killer's limbs and teeth, which I saw happening. Felt sick and horrified for 10 minutes after waking up.
That sounds crazy. :o
Are you using ultrasonic or masked btw?