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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - K-Train - 02-05-2019 I'll put this in my journal later but FRM 4.4 has picked up where FRM4.1 left off in terms of dealing with my fear of success. The way this has occured is that I view fear of success as a bully and as such my response to it has been extremely aggressive. Instead of "man...I really don't want to do this" I consciously recognize it as fear and instead of running away from it simply acknowledge it and attack it right away. Ex.) Desire to fap leads to "F*ck this shit, it's just going to derail me from what I want. I ain't doing it." Ex 2) Desire to procrastinate on daily tasks "You're [referring to fear] trying to make me unattractive by not allowing me to do what needs to be done as far as work/school/self development. F*ck you. I'm going to do this task ASAP". Hopefully I don't jinx myself but I do believe that right now FRM 4.4 is just strong enough to get me recognize my fears (some of them anyway) and be willing to stand up to them. You're doing great Shannon. Please don't give up. Your FRMs are helping us. Slowly but surely. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - dissonance - 02-06-2019 (02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long? Once USLM4 is done, are you going to insert that into a mini-update for LTU at some point? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Paul1131 - 02-06-2019 (02-06-2019, 12:39 AM)dissonance Wrote:(02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long? USLM4 is already done. It’s the version that’s in LTU. As I understand it, all he has to do now is separate out all the parts of LTU that aren’t USLM4. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Username - 02-06-2019 (02-05-2019, 03:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:And Im giving you the feedback. I'm saying that the previous version was best ever that I have run. And the new version is not. And I think that the new restful sleep addition is responsible. It creates this roadblock that subc does not know how to overcome ... In one hand program wants you to process all the fears and get rid of them but the addition is basically puting chains on you, so the brain can't run freely. A good analogy would be to ask a person to relax while they are in the gym lifting a heavy bar. And yes, this my personal experience, other people may have different ones. I think that this is a best feedback that you can get, if you only want one that supports your ideas and opinions and is positive , then you really don't want an actual feedback. So I can't give you feedback of the new version of dmsi, when it does not execute, as much as I wanted to. The change was clear as a day when going from previous to new one. You can say that the week is not enough, but the 3.3 didn't need any time at all, started working during tid already. Question for you, is why should I wait for the miracle, that may or may not happen, if there is a version that works just fine.(02-04-2019, 11:54 PM)Username Wrote:(02-04-2019, 05:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:I think it has to do with the additions, that consider sleep. Just like you can't stay still and run at the same time, so if it takes few nights of restless sleep to process some stuff, I don't mind. There are fundamental rules to life and reality, that you can't change... Gravity still works, no matter what your limiting beliefs are. Same way, if there is some heavy stuff to work through, you can't just snip your fingers and get it over with. If you want to get from point A to point B, at one point you have to take those steps. But most people still choose to wait for the teleportatation to be invented, so they wouldn't have to. I have had a week of nice and peaceful sleep, and now it's time to move on.(02-04-2019, 12:51 PM)Username Wrote: Did 7 days with the new version of dmsi... Now I'm thinking of switching back to last version. I was progressing massively on the last one, but the new is not executing very well... Flipping back to some old patterns, that I had pretty much forgotten that existed. It is resistance for sure, but it kind has a similar feel like going from 3.1>3.2...this version just doesn't fit to my subc. Who knows what exactly triggers it...but I have no interest of seeing where this resistance might take me. Going back and waiting for the new one, while running previous. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - samba99 - 02-06-2019 Shannon, Why didn't you include the high effect in Uslm into DMSI? At the beginning of the new Version of DMSI I got really interesting results but soon after within a week I became numb to life. Literally cant get excited or feeling the joy of life. Anyways I hope it gets better from now on RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-06-2019 (02-06-2019, 01:13 AM)Username Wrote:(02-05-2019, 03:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:And Im giving you the feedback. I'm saying that the previous version was best ever that I have run. And the new version is not. And I think that the new restful sleep addition is responsible. It creates this roadblock that subc does not know how to overcome ... In one hand program wants you to process all the fears and get rid of them but the addition is basically puting chains on you, so the brain can't run freely. A good analogy would be to ask a person to relax while they are in the gym lifting a heavy bar. And yes, this my personal experience, other people may have different ones. I think that this is a best feedback that you can get, if you only want one that supports your ideas and opinions and is positive , then you really don't want an actual feedback. So I can't give you feedback of the new version of dmsi, when it does not execute, as much as I wanted to. The change was clear as a day when going from previous to new one. You can say that the week is not enough, but the 3.3 didn't need any time at all, started working during tid already. Question for you, is why should I wait for the miracle, that may or may not happen, if there is a version that works just fine.(02-04-2019, 11:54 PM)Username Wrote:(02-04-2019, 05:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:I think it has to do with the additions, that consider sleep. Just like you can't stay still and run at the same time, so if it takes few nights of restless sleep to process some stuff, I don't mind. There are fundamental rules to life and reality, that you can't change... Gravity still works, no matter what your limiting beliefs are. Same way, if there is some heavy stuff to work through, you can't just snip your fingers and get it over with. If you want to get from point A to point B, at one point you have to take those steps. But most people still choose to wait for the teleportatation to be invented, so they wouldn't have to. I have had a week of nice and peaceful sleep, and now it's time to move on.(02-04-2019, 12:51 PM)Username Wrote: Did 7 days with the new version of dmsi... Now I'm thinking of switching back to last version. I was progressing massively on the last one, but the new is not executing very well... Flipping back to some old patterns, that I had pretty much forgotten that existed. It is resistance for sure, but it kind has a similar feel like going from 3.1>3.2...this version just doesn't fit to my subc. Who knows what exactly triggers it...but I have no interest of seeing where this resistance might take me. Going back and waiting for the new one, while running previous. Okay, so I think in part we have a miscommunication. Please explain to me why you think the sleep adjustments are responsible for this when the sleep adjustments are only aimed at causing you to sleep through whatever you're working on while listening. It's not trying to get you to relax and be tense at the same time, it's trying to get you to deal with your fears in ways that are easy and stress free, and at the same time, stay asleep. Second, the program doesn't self execute. You execute it or you don't. If you do or don't is your choice. The only difference between FRM 4.1 and 4.4 is the sleep module, how much easier it tries to make the process, and the amount of power behind the instructions. This would mean that your entire issue is with the amount of power behind it. You're fighting "going that fast" to the goal and giving yourself a free pass by personifying the program as being the one who executes or not. Look, I see your point of view, that 3.3 seems better because it is more readily executed. But 3.3 failed to get everyone else onboard, and I changed it. Now I need to know how it works for people like you in the longer run. Not just a week. Because if you're fighting 4.4, then you probably weren't fully executing 4.1. Your feedback amounts to, "I don't want to use the new version because I don't like it. It expects more of me than the last version did, and I don't like what it's trying to get me to do." That isn't what I need to know. What I need to know is, how does it affect that reaction after 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 weeks of use? Once again... The agreement is, you pay once, and I work for feedback until it's right. But that feedback has to be the feedback I need to get to advance the program. Not "Last version was easier, you should stop there, and I'm going back to it." RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-06-2019 (02-06-2019, 01:42 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon, As I have said before, LTU is built with USLM4 in it. It has all of everything I planned to put in it, and to build the daughter programs, we simply turn off everything else that isn't the title in question or the skeleton script. So LTU4 will "give birth" to USLM4, E3, UMOP3, etc. Quote:At the beginning of the new Version of DMSI I got really interesting results but soon after within a week I became numb to life. Literally cant get excited or feeling the joy of life. Tell me about the results you got and how the transition happened, please. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Zane - 02-06-2019 Which Sub Shannon is currently working on? I see LTU and DMSI-3.3.1 is out. So what's next on his list? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - THolt - 02-06-2019 (02-06-2019, 06:31 AM)Zane Wrote: Which Sub Shannon is currently working on? I see LTU and DMSI-3.3.1 is out. So what's next on his list? A few posts above, he said he was working on USLM4 and will likely build it today. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - RTBoss - 02-06-2019 (02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long? (02-06-2019, 06:31 AM)Zane Wrote: Which Sub Shannon is currently working on? I see LTU and DMSI-3.3.1 is out. So what's next on his list? Literally just on the prior page. Read the journal, ppl. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shadow2200 - 02-06-2019 (02-05-2019, 06:22 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-05-2019, 05:05 PM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, you mentioned fears are being removed quite fast for you in last few days with frm 4.4. Is the self eeffects ie lack of fear or the auras effect on others is the main way the goal of the program will be reached. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - KingDavid93 - 02-06-2019 (02-05-2019, 06:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-05-2019, 03:45 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Just reposting it in case you didn’t see my post earlier: Thanks for the reply- so what you’re saying is that with the introduction of the FRM into USLM most of focus has gone into fear removal- or more likely the resistance towards that removal- leaving a limited amount of focus/energy being paid towards actually being successful at whatever it is you are interested in... RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Darwinn - 02-06-2019 [/quote] Okay, so I think in part we have a miscommunication. Please explain to me why you think the sleep adjustments are responsible for this when the sleep adjustments are only aimed at causing you to sleep through whatever you're working on while listening. It's not trying to get you to relax and be tense at the same time, it's trying to get you to deal with your fears in ways that are easy and stress free, and at the same time, stay asleep. Second, the program doesn't self execute. You execute it or you don't. If you do or don't is your choice. The only difference between FRM 4.1 and 4.4 is the sleep module, how much easier it tries to make the process, and the amount of power behind the instructions. This would mean that your entire issue is with the amount of power behind it. You're fighting "going that fast" to the goal and giving yourself a free pass by personifying the program as being the one who executes or not. Look, I see your point of view, that 3.3 seems better because it is more readily executed. But 3.3 failed to get everyone else onboard, and I changed it. Now I need to know how it works for people like you in the longer run. Not just a week. Because if you're fighting 4.4, then you probably weren't fully executing 4.1. Your feedback amounts to, "I don't want to use the new version because I don't like it. It expects more of me than the last version did, and I don't like what it's trying to get me to do." That isn't what I need to know. What I need to know is, how does it affect that reaction after 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 weeks of use? Once again... The agreement is, you pay once, and I work for feedback until it's right. But that feedback has to be the feedback I need to get to advance the program. Not "Last version was easier, you should stop there, and I'm going back to it." [/quote] Come on Shannon - to a good degree it's not a choice. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 02-06-2019 Hi Shannon. I just wanted to tank you (again) for making the products, and saying I am impressed about the struggle you have gone through to come where you are. I don't know how it has been but I think I can imagine. Those entrepreneurs that dedicate themselves to what they believe in and do it with fierce commitment over years are truly inspiring and impressive. I'm sure that it will pay off and you will get the success you anticipate in the long term. One thing I have reflected upon, which maybe is done intentionally for reasons I don't know, is that the description for your product pages is written in a way that members here understand them, but people from the outside new to this stuff, will probably find as confusing as reading the description of a heavy-machinery ment to be used in a industrial park. Maybe you are doing it that way until you are truly satisfied with your products (I guess when you have enough 6G titles)... However, I would think you could have use of hiring a marketing agent (if you are not able/willing to put the time into doing it yourself) to formulate the products in a way that can be more easily absorbed by a general person. This would probably improve your conversion (people buying who see the page) and your number of visits, as the descriptions would go more hand in hand with what people search for on google for finding the solution for their problems (depression, etc). |