(02-05-2019, 10:06 AM)Oversoul Wrote: I think my 'old self' is manifesting itself as stress to prevent execution. Maybe the next dmsi could have some sort of stress relief init if it dosent already?

(02-02-2019, 11:29 AM)Hanpan Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 06:37 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 02:37 AM)Hanpan Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 01:57 AM)findingme Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 01:33 AM)Hanpan Wrote: Went through the first night of LTU.

Didn't sleep that well and I have a slight headache. However, I was out (no drinking) and got to bed 5 hours later than usual, so that might be the reason.

What's more important is that I feel really really good. I am starting LTU from a very good place, but I feel extra relaxed and happy today this far. I have a kind of childish bubbly feeling, which is a bit difficult to describe but very cool. Just did some work and my mind seems super sharp.

I know that this is only the first day, but so far so very good.

Will you be starting a LTU journal Hanpan? I'd love to follow your progress on it

Thank you - I might start a journal

I have some reservations about starting a journal:

1) Just started a new job which takes up a shitload of time and energy. However, I would be interesting to see how LTU (hopefully) helps me in a demanding job.

2) As far as I understand, the admins really don't think that the journals are reliable if you do anything else that might alter your state of mind. I have an awesome meditation practice that I've been building over many years and that I will continue. Personally, I believe that something like that will fit beautifully with many of the goals of LTU, but I don't know. Furthermore, I really prioritize my diet, exercise habits and sleep to optimize my brain function and chemistry, so it might be difficult to tell which results come from LTU or from having a good overall lifestyle/making poor lifestyle decisions.

I think I'll make some posts here, and see what times allow me to do and if it brings any value to people.

HanPan, what I don't find value in is when people use DMSI specifically (which is free upgrades until I get it right in exchange for feedback) and then do things that will destroy my ability to tell whether or not a particular change came from DMSI or some other thing (some other form of mind programming or "therapy". Altering your state of mind isn't an issue. You would be giving me valid feedback.

One short comment to the money thing and then a question

If money is an issue I would suggest buying US/LM and go through that first. I did that sub in the fall with 3 pretty big goals in different areas of my life (one of them job/financial) and US/LM worked very well. I would imagine that it would work even better if you one had 1 goal (in this case a financial goal).

Now for the question - I just re-read the product page. Shannon (or others) can you give me some indications on how to meassure my progress on this sub? When I did US/LM it was easy since I had 3 goals where 2 of them were almost 100 % messuareble. I think it's a bit more difficult with this sub since it's 12 subs in one and there is no point in meassuring 30-50 different things. Around Christmas, I decided that I would really focus on my degree of presence in everyday life and especially in difficult situations and my level of gratitude. I think that these "goals" go pretty well with LTU.

My initial idea is to set 3 very measureble goals in the "outside world" similar to US/LM and furthermore meassure:

My overall happiness and peace of mind

The way I relate to myself and my inner world

The way I relate to people around me

My level of gratitude

These goals are awesome and important, but they're just a bit difficult to meassure, especially since I'm already trying to optimize this with my lifestyle in general.

So all inputs on ways to meassure my progress on LTU are much appreciated ?

(02-02-2019, 12:10 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Well well...what I find interesting and curious is that,since you combined 12 programs into 1 aka LTU,which is incredible,as stated its a first..OK well then, programs like AM7 and BAMM,what in the heck would they contain,as possibilities. This is more like a STATEMENT than a question. its like saying "Geez what are the possibilities here,I wonder? seems like the sky's becoming not even the limit. so it would seem. FRM 4.5 is a mother lode in and of itself.

(02-02-2019, 02:04 PM)OberynMartell Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 06:39 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 03:41 AM)OberynMartell Wrote: Long time no see guys! Still an avid user of DMSI, didn't journal though because of some very heavy personal stuff. Now I see that Shannon dropped LTU 4.0, very exciting stuff!

So @Shannon, what should I do? I really want to experience this new sub, however could it be an escape tactic for DMSI?

What version of DMSI are you using? How long has it been? What results are you getting? I don't know enough to answer your question.

Yeah I didn't give you enough information, sorry about that. Currently using the newest 3.1.1 D, until now 8 back to back loops a day. So not much to say about this, because it's only been 7 days. I've been using the sub DMSI since the beginning, since AOSI it was called if I remember correctly.
I really began to execute around DMSI 3.1, after that no results. Always followed the instructions and amount of loops.
In the meantime: Gained a lot of weight in body fat, which was/is really bad for my confidence. Also had a lot of personal setbacks in that period. After a lot of problems, I'm back at the good things again. Going to start a part time study which my boss will pay fully for, have still great rapport with my female co-workers. People notice that. But other than that, nothing like on 3.1.
So in summary, I know what the program can do, I know its power if you execute. Now to my question, what should I do? I really want to get the results of the program. But LTU sounds so good, it's almost impossible not to try it out. Maybe it is something I should figure out myself, just hoping if you or another member could help me in the right direction. Because it would suck if it was my subconscious trying to deny me results because of fear.

(02-05-2019, 01:45 PM)Greenduck Wrote:

(02-02-2019, 04:14 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Please do E3 in two versions with "reflective-back-to-the-person" respectively with "reflective-into-the-air" protective aura. I'm pretty sure my mom will not stop attacking me energetically if she doesn't get a taste of her own medicine.

Some side questions:
- Will the aura be protective of other people getting attacked but being close to me? I'm thinking of my father who also is a victim of my mother's attacking him.
- If the aura make toxic people not able to be toxic towards you, wouldn't that hinder your development of healthy boundaries? But that development maybe is spurred by E3 in itself, not needing the outside pressure. Just a thought.
- What if the case is that I am projecting my own problems on people and just believe them being toxic, without actually being toxic? Would that make the aura repel people that maybe want me good? Or is the aura seeing through my own psychological limitations?

Quoting my own post from a couple of pages as I believe it will get lost along the other ones. I also would like to ask if you can tell when E3 may be released as it would be nice to plan for my 1 week break between E2 and E3.

Quote:- Will the aura be protective of other people getting attacked but being close to me? I'm thinking of my father who also is a victim of my mother's attacking him.

Quote:- If the aura make toxic people not able to be toxic towards you, wouldn't that hinder your development of healthy boundaries? But that development maybe is spurred by E3 in itself, not needing the outside pressure. Just a thought.

Quote:- What if the case is that I am projecting my own problems on people and just believe them being toxic, without actually being toxic? Would that make the aura repel people that maybe want me good? Or is the aura seeing through my own psychological limitations?

(02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long?

I was planning to do USLM4 and then E3.

(02-05-2019, 03:12 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-05-2019, 09:23 AM)Choice Wrote: Shannon, can you update the FRM to be capable to work directly on the fears we experience/encounter in our day to day lives?

Do you think that I ever had any different focus in it to begin with?

(02-05-2019, 09:23 AM)Choice Wrote: Shannon, can you update the FRM to be capable to work directly on the fears we experience/encounter in our day to day lives?

(02-05-2019, 03:45 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Just reposting it in case you didn’t see my post earlier:

“Hi Shannon,

I’ve been on USLM3 since release- so around 3 months now.

How is it that I’ve yet to see any truly significant changes or occurrences on USLM3, but on USLM 1+2 I noticed this positive feeling that everything was going to be ok and I also warmed up while I was playing it (kind of like a DMSI aura effect but it happened consistently when I played as opposed to sporadically with DMSI and it was stronger on 2 than 1 but I haven’t felt it at all on 3).

I regularly won something while playing different lotto games on 1+2 and noticed life and job success- more so on 1 than 2, but there was a boost in lotto winnings on 2.

So my main question is how is it that there were benefits and changes noticed on 1+2 but not really on 3, and the improvement was noticed from 1 to 2 but not really in 3. The main thing I noticed on 3 is that I was dead tired for the first 1-2 weeks then went back to normal- I’ve noticed more sabotage and reverse resistance than anything on USLM3.”

I’m trying to justify not returning to an earlier version of USLM when I noticed results the first several weeks of using both of them.

(02-05-2019, 04:43 PM)Choice Wrote:

(02-05-2019, 03:12 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-05-2019, 09:23 AM)Choice Wrote: Shannon, can you update the FRM to be capable to work directly on the fears we experience/encounter in our day to day lives?

Do you think that I ever had any different focus in it to begin with?

I wasn't referring to the general process of the FRM removing all fears in the way, but rather adding also a more targeted approach removing the specific fears the user encounters in his day to day life. So for example, you notice a hot girl, but you're too afraid to look at her... FRM kicks in and starts working on removing that fear... and so on.

(02-05-2019, 05:05 PM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, you mentioned fears are being removed quite fast for you in last few days with frm 4.4.

Im almost 2 cycles through dmsi, i havent felt any changes internally or externally, have any suggestions what i should try to do to see something start to happen?