(02-20-2020, 12:01 PM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

How are the models acting now? Are they stable enough as to allow you to build FRM 4.9 and complete other programs?

(02-20-2020, 12:36 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-20-2020, 12:01 PM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

How are the models acting now? Are they stable enough as to allow you to build FRM 4.9 and complete other programs?

Sometimes they are more stable than others.  Sometimes I can get answers I trust, and sometimes not.  I was getting answers I trusted today until I got back from lunch.  Now I see they're not giving confidence ratings high enough for me to use.

It's getting better over time.  Unfortunately, it's still not perfect.

(02-20-2020, 01:17 PM)THolt Wrote:

(02-20-2020, 12:36 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-20-2020, 12:01 PM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon

How are the models acting now? Are they stable enough as to allow you to build FRM 4.9 and complete other programs?

Sometimes they are more stable than others.  Sometimes I can get answers I trust, and sometimes not.  I was getting answers I trusted today until I got back from lunch.  Now I see they're not giving confidence ratings high enough for me to use.

It's getting better over time.  Unfortunately, it's still not perfect.

@Shannon  Its almost March so hopefully they will get better as the cycle wane

(02-21-2020, 06:23 AM)AriGold Wrote: Hey Shannon,

from 5.5G and 5.75G programs I get sleeping problems after a while. So around 2-4 weeks in I can no longer fall asleep that easy (nearly the whole night awake) and it goes away around 2 weeks after stopping the program. How would you approach this problem, carpet-bombing or listening way less (like 1x1 and 6x0) and then going up slowly (maybe one day more or one loop more every 2 weeks)?

Thanks in advance for your time, wisdom and help.

(02-21-2020, 08:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-21-2020, 06:23 AM)AriGold Wrote: Hey Shannon,

from 5.5G and 5.75G programs I get sleeping problems after a while. So around 2-4 weeks in I can no longer fall asleep that easy (nearly the whole night awake) and it goes away around 2 weeks after stopping the program. How would you approach this problem, carpet-bombing or listening way less (like 1x1 and 6x0) and then going up slowly (maybe one day more or one loop more every 2 weeks)?

Thanks in advance for your time, wisdom and help.

I need to know what your usage patterns are, which programs are affecting you this way, volume and player type and what time of day you are using the program.

(02-22-2020, 04:33 AM)AriGold Wrote:

(02-21-2020, 08:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-21-2020, 06:23 AM)AriGold Wrote: Hey Shannon,

from 5.5G and 5.75G programs I get sleeping problems after a while. So around 2-4 weeks in I can no longer fall asleep that easy (nearly the whole night awake) and it goes away around 2 weeks after stopping the program. How would you approach this problem, carpet-bombing or listening way less (like 1x1 and 6x0) and then going up slowly (maybe one day more or one loop more every 2 weeks)?

Thanks in advance for your time, wisdom and help.

I need to know what your usage patterns are, which programs are affecting you this way, volume and player type and what time of day you are using the program.

I had this with MHS, LTU4 and LTU5 as well as UMS.
I used it according to the instructions, except UMS where I listened to it 1 loop more every week. I used for some the trickling stream, for some the trickling stream hybrid with a physical MP3 player and headphones. MHS, LTU4 and LTU 5 I used strictly during the night, UMS I used in the afternoon or evening. Volume was always loud enough that I can hear it good, but for example when I use it during sleep and I notice that it is pretty loud, I tone it down a step so I can still hear it good but is not too loud to sleep. On my MP3 player (Fiio X1) it is 15-20/100 with headphones.

(02-22-2020, 12:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: Alright.  First suggestion.  Try it with speakers instead of headphones.  

Second suggestion.  Try using it when you're not sleeping.  The most likely way to solve, or help with this issue is to use it when you wake up, not while you're sleeping.  This gives you ~ 12 hours for it to integrate before you try to sleep.  Should allow your mind to be less active when you go to bed.

Third suggestion.  Try using different volumes.  This should only be attempted if and after the other two have been used for at least a couple weeks each without success.

If none of these help, let me know, because there's one other thing you can do.

(02-24-2020, 02:38 AM)AriGold Wrote:

(02-22-2020, 12:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: Alright.  First suggestion.  Try it with speakers instead of headphones.  

Second suggestion.  Try using it when you're not sleeping.  The most likely way to solve, or help with this issue is to use it when you wake up, not while you're sleeping.  This gives you ~ 12 hours for it to integrate before you try to sleep.  Should allow your mind to be less active when you go to bed.

Third suggestion.  Try using different volumes.  This should only be attempted if and after the other two have been used for at least a couple weeks each without success.

If none of these help, let me know, because there's one other thing you can do.

Ok, I will try one after the other.
With 5G programs I never had the problem, also not 3G or 4G. It also does not start directly, the first 2-3 weeks it is ok, after that I can't easily fall asleep and sometimes lie awake nearly the whole night. It does not matter if I listen to that program at that time or not. Even if I stop completely with that program it takes like 2 weeks until I can find sleep easier again. So in that case I don't think it is because I used the program while I was sleeping, but non the less I will try it out.
Thanks for the suggestions, maybe I am the only one with that problems. It seems like 5.5G and above are powerful enough to push my subconscious into sleepless nights.

(02-24-2020, 01:02 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon, 
I was thinking about something. You saying you do not want to take free will. Fair but is this considered taking free will

"Choosing a different perception in regards to something (even people) "

Quote:Here is an example, imagine I have a friend called Emily. Now based on my current perception about Emily (which I based on because of experiences etc etc), Emily is not attracted to me sexually. However, I now consciously" choosing" a different perception. Meaning I alter my own perception of Emily, this new perception, Emily is heavily attracted to me sexually. Which therefore will result in a reality which Emily is attracted to me sexually.

Quote:Notice I used the word CHOOSING, since all realities exist, I'm not changing but simply choosing another reality.


Now, remember my first perception was chosen by me, not Emily. I am the one who behaved in a certain way which made Emily not attracted to me initially and formed my own perception. Therefore I have the freedom to choose a different perception at any time.

If you say you don't want to take my own free will (not Emily) my free will of choosing a perception, then yes, that is a valid point, we don't want you to take our free will of choosing a perception.

But if you say, you don't want to take Emily's free will, then that is not a valid point. Because it's not about Emily but my own perception, which is myown freedom. I base my perceptions and I switch to different ones as I please. Isn't that what is the true power of human beings?

Maybe I am misunderstanding points on many level, so feel free to correct and comment

(02-24-2020, 02:38 AM)AriGold Wrote:

(02-22-2020, 12:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: Alright.  First suggestion.  Try it with speakers instead of headphones.  

Second suggestion.  Try using it when you're not sleeping.  The most likely way to solve, or help with this issue is to use it when you wake up, not while you're sleeping.  This gives you ~ 12 hours for it to integrate before you try to sleep.  Should allow your mind to be less active when you go to bed.

Third suggestion.  Try using different volumes.  This should only be attempted if and after the other two have been used for at least a couple weeks each without success.

If none of these help, let me know, because there's one other thing you can do.

Ok, I will try one after the other.
With 5G programs I never had the problem, also not 3G or 4G. It also does not start directly, the first 2-3 weeks it is ok, after that I can't easily fall asleep and sometimes lie awake nearly the whole night. It does not matter if I listen to that program at that time or not. Even if I stop completely with that program it takes like 2 weeks until I can find sleep easier again. So in that case I don't think it is because I used the program while I was sleeping, but non the less I will try it out.
Thanks for the suggestions, maybe I am the only one with that problems. It seems like 5.5G and above are powerful enough to push my subconscious into sleepless nights.