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RE: DMSI >>> MLS - Still not a journal... :P - hsindermann - 08-05-2017
(08-05-2017, 06:29 AM)Lowe Wrote: My two cents: it's not resistance, you're listening to the subliminals at too high volumes. I have not heard of anyone else getting tinnitus as resistance, and it seems odd to resist in that way.
Tinnitus comes from prolonged exposure to loud sounds. If you're listening to ultrasonic tracks, try measuring the volume you're listening to (I suggest Frequensee). Lower the volume next time you listen, as the hearing problems may become permanent and whatever results you are getting is not worth it. Alternatively, switch to the masked tracks.
As I have said: I have listended to DMSI 3.0 at exactly the same volume - no tinnitus. I switched over to 3.1 - tinnitus starting the first day. I stopped DMSI 3.1 and went back to 3.0 - tinnitus stopped. I started MLS - tinnitus is back. I have even compared the levels of the DMSI 3.0 and 3.1 files: They are the same. Only possible explanation that's left in my opinion: It is a reaction to the sub.
Also: I am listening to the subs over night via speakers at a very moderate volume.
I guess my mind is unusually creative when it comes to resistance.
RE: DMSI >>> MLS - Still not a journal... :P - Lowe - 08-05-2017
Alright, I suppose that makes tinnitus less likely, but just to be sure, you may want to try using the masked tracks for a week or so, and see if the tinnitus goes away. It is at least worth trying, even if it's unlikely to be the case. Up to you, of course.
Good luck with your run.
RE: DMSI >>> MLS - Still not a journal... :P - hsindermann - 08-05-2017
(08-05-2017, 09:57 AM)Lowe Wrote: Alright, I suppose that makes tinnitus less likely, but just to be sure, you may want to try using the masked tracks for a week or so, and see if the tinnitus goes away. It is at least worth trying, even if it's unlikely to be the case. Up to you, of course.
Good luck with your run.
Thanks!
I did exactly that for the last week of MLS - switched from the hybrid track to the masked trickling stream one. Did not help at all.Running the WL sub I'll only use the masked tracks.
Btw, I've just googled around a bit: Tinnitus can be caused by stress. Resistance can surely be seen as a form of emotional stress, so that might be it.
RE: DMSI >>> MLS - Still not a journal... :P - JackOfHearts - 08-05-2017
I noticed my tinnitus get worse the more tired I am, seeing how tiring those subs can be this might be the cause.
From what I have learned Tinnitus seems to be related to the mind, like thinking too much, constant thought, inability to rest or sleep, restlessness. People who think too much like me tend to have it more often.
So maybe the sub is triggering it more easily if you are predisposed to be like that.
RE: DMSI >>> MLS - Still not a journal... :P - Benjamin - 08-05-2017
Quote:Because the instructions vanish from the store pages:
Programs are not sold anymore - like all the 3G programs that have been taken down. People might still want to run them though, yet if they did not save a copy of the store page, the instructions for the programs are gone. Same with older versions of DMSI if one chooses to run those - no instructions for them anywhere anymore, except if people try to dig them up in many months or years old posts on the forum.
There is still general instructions for 3g on the store. As for DMSI I get your point but it's designed to be using the latest version when each is released.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - hsindermann - 02-11-2018
As Shannon requested a summary of my run of Exercise Motivation 5.5G - here we go...
I got EM right when it came out, and been running it roughly for 7 weeks now.
My history of exercising is mainly one of quickly fading motivation. Over the last 3 years or so I've started working out with best intentions and halfway decent motivation several times. But every single time, my motivation quickly faded away, so that already by week 2 my initial motivation was pretty much gone, working out felt like a chore. That usually led to me starting to make up excuses why I would not need to work out on a given day - be it not feeling fit enough, feeling too hungry, it being too late already or whatever nonsense my mind could make up. So usually by week 2 already I started skipping workout days, and latest by week 4 the whole thing was over.
So... EM to the rescue! I've started another go at implementing a regular exercise regime in the last week of 2017, and at the same time I've run EM over night for the recommended 4 loops. And indeed EM has delivered nicely. Since using it I did not once have my usual internal dialogue to find excuses for not having to work out. When it's time for another session I'm just all 'Let's do this!!'. I've even caught myself being a bit disappointed on those days when according to the programme that I'm following I'm supposed to take a break. Hence I've not skipped a single workout day! Also, though not consistenly, I've felt pretty upbeat while working out, starting dance moves to my workout music and playing air-guitar and that sorta thing.
So yeah, for anyone being in the same boat - needing and/or wanting to workout regularly, but having difficulty with staying motivated enough to follow it, this sub is highly recommended.I'm going to use it for another week or so, and will take a little sub break afterwards, before moving on to the next one. Which one that will be I've not finally decided yet, but Self Esteem looks very promising. I've started reading the book that someone on here recommended (The Six Pillars Of Self-Esteem), which highlights nicely how important and fundamental a healthy dose of self-esteem is for so many things in life. And from what I read in that book, a lack of self-esteem might be the cause for me having great trouble to keep working on things that I want to achieve - especially when it comes to working on my goal of making (a partial) living through making music as a composer. So SE seems like a good choice for a next sub. Also, I'm not feeling as if I'd want to go DMSI just yet - after running it every day for something like 1.5 years I've grown a bit tired of it I guess. But sooner or later I'll give the new version a try too. How soon will probably depend on the success stories on the forum.
Soo... it's actually time for my forearms/biceps/upper back workout. So let's do this!
Btw, in case anyone is interested, I'm following the 'You are your own gym' programme by Mark Lauren - all bodyweight exercises. The app has some nice prepared programs from beginner level (me) to advanced crazyness level like hand stand push ups and that kinda thing. It's 10 week programmes, with 4 workout days per week at first and then for the last 4 weeks he's throwing in a 5th day with a 20 mins HIIT session. I like it quite a lot so far, and hopefully can advance to second level straight after finishing round #1.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - Benjamin - 02-11-2018
Very cool.
As someone who's been at it 4+ years now, coming from someone who was the same as you and couldn't do it consistently before.
You won't always necessarily be pumped for it, or keen for a workout. Sometimes you will, other times your mind will try to stop you, that's ok. For the long term you just become so in the habit that you go no matter what, whether you're in the mood or not. And alot of times when you get to the gym (or start your workout in your case, sounds like you do it at home) then you'll feel better.
Good to hear you're consistent now though.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - hsindermann - 02-12-2018
Thanks Ben! I hope the motivation push will indeed last until working out has become a habit that I just do. If it fades away too early, I can still just rerun the sub. Goal is to get fit enough to successfully run the crazy level 4 programme.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - Shannon - 02-12-2018
(02-11-2018, 04:17 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Very cool.
As someone who's been at it 4+ years now, coming from someone who was the same as you and couldn't do it consistently before.
You won't always necessarily be pumped for it, or keen for a workout. Sometimes you will, other times your mind will try to stop you, that's ok. For the long term you just become so in the habit that you go no matter what, whether you're in the mood or not. And alot of times when you get to the gym (or start your workout in your case, sounds like you do it at home) then you'll feel better.
Good to hear you're consistent now though.
Ben, have you run EM? I don't recall you saying that you have. How do you know that this will be his experience? Just because it's been yours doesn't mean that is a universal truth. Especially since he is running EM and getting good results with it.
The experiences you have had in the past sound like his. EM is designed to overcome those. Which seem to be what he is experiencing. Why try to tell him he will fail in some way in the future, or not keep achieving the results he is getting? There's no reason that he has to experience any less success than he is.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - hsindermann - 02-12-2018
I didn't interpret Bens reply like that. For me, even with the things I love doing, there's ups and downs with the drive that I have to go about these things. And I guess that's natural in some way. Like I'm pretty sure you love building these subs, but every now and then motivation is probably not what it is on other days. That's how I understood Bens message.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - Shannon - 02-12-2018
(02-12-2018, 08:51 AM)hsindermann Wrote: I didn't interpret Bens reply like that. For me, even with the things I love doing, there's ups and downs with the drive that I have to go about these things. And I guess that's natural in some way. Like I'm pretty sure you love building these subs, but every now and then motivation is probably not what it is on other days. That's how I understood Bens message.
I just didn't want a situation in which artificial limitation was created based on limited thinking that didn't need to limit you. Ben used the words "you will" which is a command form of suggestion. Under the right circumstances, that can implant a belief that wasn't there before.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - Benjamin - 02-12-2018
Quote:Ben, have you run EM? I don't recall you saying that you have. How do you know that this will be his experience? Just because it's been yours doesn't mean that is a universal truth. Especially since he is running EM and getting good results with it.
The experiences you have had in the past sound like his. EM is designed to overcome those. Which seem to be what he is experiencing. Why try to tell him he will fail in some way in the future, or not keep achieving the results he is getting? There's no reason that he has to experience any less success than he is.
No, but I did alot of clearing out limitations around that and it's unrealistic to every single time you goto the gym to be completely pumped for it. The part where I said "you will" was "sometimes you'll be pumped to workout".
There's no point I said he would fail, in fact I said the way of overcoming it is getting so deeply in the habit that you just go anyway, which is a success. I think telling him that he will constantly always be totally excited and pumped going to the gym is more setting someone up for failure than saying there might be some times when you don't but you still go anyway.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running EM - Shannon - 02-13-2018
(02-12-2018, 08:14 PM)Benjamin Wrote:Quote:Ben, have you run EM? I don't recall you saying that you have. How do you know that this will be his experience? Just because it's been yours doesn't mean that is a universal truth. Especially since he is running EM and getting good results with it.
The experiences you have had in the past sound like his. EM is designed to overcome those. Which seem to be what he is experiencing. Why try to tell him he will fail in some way in the future, or not keep achieving the results he is getting? There's no reason that he has to experience any less success than he is.
No, but I did alot of clearing out limitations around that and it's unrealistic to every single time you goto the gym to be completely pumped for it. The part where I said "you will" was "sometimes you'll be pumped to workout".
There's no point I said he would fail, in fact I said the way of overcoming it is getting so deeply in the habit that you just go anyway, which is a success. I think telling him that he will constantly always be totally excited and pumped going to the gym is more setting someone up for failure than saying there might be some times when you don't but you still go anyway.
You do realize that your definition of unrealistic is a self limiting belief? The point of this sub is to remove and overcome those. So your definition of "unrealistic" may apply to you, but not him. That's what I'm talking about.
Before I ran DMSI 3.1, it was "unrealistic" by my own definition for me to think I'd ever be dating the girl I am, but now I am dating her. The point is, "unrealistic" is a limit you place on yourself. What is realistic depends on what you allow to become real.
RE: Random sub adventures - currently running DMSI 3.2 - hsindermann - 02-25-2018
So I was totally set for running Self Esteem next. I even bought it already. And then came DMSI 3.2... Pffff...
So yeah, couldn't resist...It's only been 2-3 days on the new DMSI version, so not very much to note as of yet, but I can already see a few things from the sub. The runtime is awesome - only 1 loop of a bit over an hour. This way I can listen to it via headphones nicely during the day or evening, instead of having it to run over night while I sleep via speakers. Though I'm kinda wondering why a super complex sub like DMSI gets away with 1 hour per day, while Self Esteem is a friggin 7 hours a day...
So, first glimpses of what I can see DMSI doing so far:
- I'm a big sceptic when it comes to this TID effect, but I have to admit it's a bit of a big coincidence that maybe 2 weeks before the start of DMSI I have deleted my complete porn collection. And just a week ago my darn big collection of softcore picsets went into the (digital) trash too. Gotta say though that this was not the first time that I did this, but TID or not - not a tiny bit of that stuff left on my computer. Urge to masturbate is down. The urge to check out softcore sites (I had been looking at a forum where people post pics of fashion models a lot) is down too. And just an hour ago I remembered that some years ago I had bought fleshlights (masturbation aids for men if you don't know these) - I had forgotten about them for quite some time, probably last used them over a year ago. Well... they just went into the trash! So that whole thing of getting us to stop finding alternative ways to get rid of our sex drive seems to work just nicely.
- The increased appetite is back - though I have to say it's pretty manageable. I hope the addition to prevent DMSI users from gaining body fat from the additional food intake is working indeed. Also would be awesome if the other addition - loosing body fat gained on the last DMSI version(s) - works too, because I had gained a ton of weight on 3.1 (maybe even 3.0 already, not sure anymore).
- First 2 days I felt tired a lot, and it felt as if my mind was fighting the sub. Didn't have headaches or anything like that, but I was all low energy and wanted to sleep a lot over the day. Still felt like that till this afternoon, but it feels as if something has clicked now, as if the fight is over. Not entirely sure if that's really what's going on though - it's kinda hard to describe. But I do feel at the moment that all (or most) parts of me have accepted the possibility of having an abundance of women. Let's see how this will develop over the coming days and weeks.
- My motivation to exercise, which was so nicely built up by EM over the last 2 months, is still going strong. And I have the feeling that DMSI is pushing this further even. Makes sense from the goal of DMSI - a fit, muscular, lean version of me is sexually way more attractive than an unfit, weak and overweight one. Also - might be just my imagination - but the workout today felt easier than before. As if DMSI would lift some of the weight for me.
I haven't been out and about much, so cannot really tell about external effects yet. I have the feeling those might actually take a little longer to show anyway (but I might be wrong here). Will see over the coming week...
So yeah, overall this version already seems promising to me - much more so than the previous one. It's way too early to give an all thumbs up, but this one feels like a major improvement over 3.1
As usual I will not really keep a daily journal here, but will only post from time to time if something new happened. Which hopefully will also keep this more usable for Shannon.
Cheers
HS
PS: One more thing - I didn't really attribute it to DMSI back when I ran 3.1 - but same as some others my hair turned way more gray/silver than it was before, especially abover my ears and half of my beard hair is gray by now. I'm certainly not the only 40 year old with graying hair, hence I did not really make the connection to DMSI back then. Would be awesome if the reversal of that would make it into the next version!
Also, reversal of hair loss would be great too - although I'm not entirely sure if that's even possible when the hair loss has happened a long time ago. I basically lost most of the hair that I'm missing today in my early 20s already - partially genetic, but to large extend due to major skin problems back then. So hair loss reversal would be awesome if even possible - either as DMSI module or otherwise as separate program.