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RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 02-08-2020
Interesting results.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-14-2020
Hi All, (continuing log for off-label DMSI 3.3.2 use)
Well, I got busy toward the end of my 16 day vacation and there was not that much interesting to report. I'll summarize here.
Day 4 of the second round of ASRB2
Had a distinct feeling that the sub was 'wearing off' the sexual intensity had gone down and that libidinous feeling had faded some.
Day 1 - 4 of round 3 of looping the sub
As soon as we went back to listening to it, we saw an upsurge in sexual intensity between us. She began saying things such as "I'm so glad you bring me here" (to the lonely cottage in the tropics) "so that I can be naked and do all the things you want me to do. I REALLY want to do this again next year.", etc.
Intensity of our intimate relations was much nicer. Resurged. That's goooood.
As far as contacts with others. In general, folks I did business with, particularly women, smiled warmly, and were extra helpful. In some cases when my wife and I were doing business at a small grocery for instance, the woman would say something to the effect "(even though we don't usually like outsiders around here) you are the kind of people we want around" -- this theme was repeated by at least three completely different locals under 3 different situations. Even people that had in past years treated us very matter-of-factly or even a little bit sternly wore smiles and took an interest in us as people, asking where we were from, etc.
In the airport on the way home (day 4 I believe) our flight was in the process of being cancelled but the lady at the counter helped us out and sent us to a different airline with vouchers (about a mile walk away). The thing was, when we got to the substitute airline the lady behind the counter smiled a lot at me (and us) almost giggling, like she knew a secret joke, but in an affable way. I told her simply we wanted seats together on the left aisle and she happily gave them to us, and gave us a free upgrade to economy plus to boot. Now this is not even our usual airline so the fact that she was so anxious to help struck me.
We're home now and soon will be seeing people in the outside world. I work from home so my first day was pretty uneventful re the sub. However, my wife's out and about. I'll check in with her when she returns.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-18-2020
Hi All, (continuing saga of DMSI 3.3.2 off-label experiment)
It was very hard to actually keep a consistent listening pattern during the last few days of the 3rd 8-day sub-listening cycle. However, the libido energy level stayed up nicely in spite of losing a night's sleep to a red-eye flight, and having a short night's sleep the following day. After a day of socializing on Sunday, on our way home she kept making overtures, hiking up her dress and touching me intimately and inviting my touch while we were driving. When we got home one of my daughters and her family were there (7 of them) so no doing anything then, but as soon as they were gone she wanted some tequila and an 'intimate encounter'.... It was brief but intense and very fulfilling for both of us.
So... I'm loving the intensity we feel while listening to the sub. We'll see whether it carries over during the ASRB2 period which starts today. She has taken to carrying herself in a much more feminine and attractive manner. I've been working on this with her for a long time (she's not a 'girly girl', though she's quite pretty even now in her 60s and she has a classic hourglass figure). So... seems to have increased her confidence and her awareness of her own sexual energy. All good effects. Also, when she goes off the handle, which only happens occasionally and is almost always just irrational rather than in response to me actually doing something offensive. She gets just as intense as she used to, but she comes around and makes up much quicker and much nicer, like she's more aware of herself emotionally and sexually. Her interest in me and her respect for me has also been on the uptick, though this effect is very subtle and could simply be a response to my improved energy level.
Monday morning after our Sunday tryst, as we woke up she aroused me and the did me spontaneously. This is not unusual when we're on vacation, but on a work day, kind of surprising. Plus, she really did a great job. Was at her most generous as a lover. I think this is the DMSI at work.
I got a massage yesterday and the therapist was very warm toward me and hardworking as usual, but when I was leaving I realized she must have given me an extra 10 minutes or so. Coincidence? Maybe.
Day 1 of 3rd round of ASRB2,
As I begin my third round of ASRB2 I am happy with the way we are using the sub. I suspect that others might not get the effect they are looking for if they try to use it to become super sexually attractive. What I mean is the effect is VERY subtle and seems to disappear if you look too hard for it. What I mean is this: When I go into a situation thinking, "Let's see how the effect works in this situation" I notice no difference. But if I'm not thinking about it, and go into a situation or two, one out of two situations I'll notice women responding differently to me as I look back on it.
Shannon, does that make sense? The effect that if you're watching for it doesn't happen. That if you are self-conscious about the effects, they dissipate.
Also, how important is stereo separation? I have been listening a lot now on my DOSS box which has two speakers in the same 10" long box. It has great frequency response and can be quite loud. For music, etc. I can hear the stereo effect fairly well. I do try to listen to the sub (Hybrid version) on iPhone earbuds at least once or twice a day.
Thanks.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-19-2020
Day 2 of ASRB2 3rd cycle.
Felt a surge of sexual energy at about the half day mark on Day 1, then awoke with same. Went to the dentist today and everyone just seemed to have taken mood elevators. Everyone was extra sweet, even the doctor and the usually cranky/edgy receptionist. Didn't notice any extra touching, but lots of smiles and warmth from the ladies as well as from the dentist himself. Possible effects of the aura, it seems.
Tonight we will be socializing, tomorrow I'll be meeting a new doctor for the first time, though I spoke with her over the phone yesterday and she was very sweet and helpful-- not characteristics I usually expect in doctors. It will be interesting to see how the subs effects work on a first impression on someone that I'll be continuing to work with in the coming months. Will report on these things at next opportunity tomorrow.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-20-2020
Day 3, 3rd round of ASRB2....
Last night socializing went well. Did not notice anything but that is to be expected given the situation.
This morning the wife was quite warm and I felt highly sexual when I woke up, this continued on and off till around noon. The gym went by without anything unusual. There was one young lady that was not wearing headphones facing my way but not perfectly in my line of sight. She was smiling and giggling but not making eye contact while on her elliptical trainer. Maybe she was just weird.
The doctor appointment went well. The nurse and the doctor (female) both treated me warmly and gave lots of eye contact. Could feel a 'vibe' but nothing strong. I suspect this is because we are both in relationships. She was pretty but not especially so, so that could be it also. She was quite charming though.
Observation: Occasionally, I find I feel that the sexual intensity is 'spinning up' like a flywheel that is charging. It's a distinct feeling, but haven't fully gotten control of it. Sometimes, I can 'go inside' and spin the flywheel a bit to get it going, other times not so much. I don't know if anyone else has had this experience with the DMSI 3.3.2, but It's pretty cool when it works. I wonder if after a few more rounds of the Cycle this will become more available and/or frequent. It is a very rejuvenating feeling.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-21-2020
Hi All, (DMSI 3.3.2 off label experiment)
Day 4 of 3rd round of the ASRB2 period.
Glad this is the last day-- I much prefer the way I feel when I'm listening to the sub... feel more 'on' sexually and more in control of my urges during the 8 days. Is anyone else noticing this?
Hopefully, it'll just 'be there' in the background after a couple more cycles.
I am getting habituated to the DMSI 3.3.2-- like it kind of like morning coffee. Gives me a bit of that 'lift'.
Have not noticed anything that would qualify as 'bloom', except maybe that occasional sexual energy 'spin up'.
My wife has come down a bit from the vacation 'high'. Still more open and fun than before.
We're going out for dinner for our anniversary tonight, so we'll see if anything interesting happens there. I have a baseline for the place we are going. We've been there before and know many of the help staff, so we'll see how they respond to my wife and I.
Shannon:
The ASRB calculation technology. I have a question or two... Wouldn't this vary from person to person as to how they respond to the sub and how quickly their brain incorporates it? I feel like my brain devours it, but I do take a regular protocol of Nootropics (including: Oxiracetam, Aniracetam, Piracetam, Phenylpiracetam, Centrophenoxine, Huperzine A and Sunifiram in various combinations).
Also, two days into this round of ASRB2, I got a migraine for the first time in many months. The after-effects have held on longer than they usually do, also. I suppose there are other explanations, dietary changes, etc. but thought I'd ask in case anyone else had something to offer.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Have at ye - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 01:18 PM)rono Wrote: Shannon:
The ASRB calculation technology. I have a question or two... Wouldn't this vary from person to person as to how they respond to the sub and how quickly their brain incorporates it? I feel like my brain devours it, but I do take a regular protocol of Nootropics (including: Oxiracetam, Aniracetam, Piracetam, Phenylpiracetam, Centrophenoxine, Huperzine A and Sunifiram in various combinations).
Also, two days into this round of ASRB2, I got a migraine for the first time in many months. The after-effects have held on longer than they usually do, also. I suppose there are other explanations, dietary changes, etc. but thought I'd ask in case anyone else had something to offer.
The ASRBs are calculated for "optimal effectivness for the majority of users", IIRC.
From UMS on, the 5.75G subliminals have an additional set of instructions that guides the user to find the optimal listening pattern for themselves, personally. Although, IIRC, for DMSI it's recommended to stick to the ASRB2, although personally I did sometimes employ more loops to "push through" whenever I'd feel that it was warranted (I did stick to the ASRB2, though).
Migraines/headache with subliminal programs can mean two or three different things, as far as I know: either overload of input (but that shouldn't be happening if you're following the ASRBs), overload of energy (this should normalize after some time, I guess) or some sort of resistance response - your body may be trying to dissuade you from using the program, in a way. But, as you yourself have pointed out, the migraine may be entirely unrelated to DMSI, especially if you've been having them every now and again anyway.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 02:30 PM)Have at ye Wrote:(02-21-2020, 01:18 PM)rono Wrote: Shannon:
The ASRB calculation technology. I have a question or two... Wouldn't this vary from person to person as to how they respond to the sub and how quickly their brain incorporates it? I feel like my brain devours it, but I do take a regular protocol of Nootropics (including: Oxiracetam, Aniracetam, Piracetam, Phenylpiracetam, Centrophenoxine, Huperzine A and Sunifiram in various combinations).
Also, two days into this round of ASRB2, I got a migraine for the first time in many months. The after-effects have held on longer than they usually do, also. I suppose there are other explanations, dietary changes, etc. but thought I'd ask in case anyone else had something to offer.
The ASRBs are calculated for "optimal effectivness for the majority of users", IIRC.
From UMS on, the 5.75G subliminals have an additional set of instructions that guides the user to find the optimal listening pattern for themselves, personally. Although, IIRC, for DMSI it's recommended to stick to the ASRB2, although personally I did sometimes employ more loops to "push through" whenever I'd feel that it was warranted (I did stick to the ASRB2, though).
The ASRB2 is calculated for the best results of the most possible people. Some individuals will get better results from different values. There is a module being developed that is designed to cause your subconscious to figure out the optimal usage patterns for you, and then just use them, but it is far from perfect at this time.
Quote:Migraines/headache with subliminal programs can mean two or three different things, as far as I know: either overload of input (but that shouldn't be happening if you're following the ASRBs), overload of energy (this should normalize after some time, I guess) or some sort of resistance response - your body may be trying to dissuade you from using the program, in a way. But, as you yourself have pointed out, the migraine may be entirely unrelated to DMSI, especially if you've been having them every now and again anyway.
Imput overload headaches should be rare to nonexistent with current gen subs. Overload of energy should be about the same, uness you're exposing yourself to a group of too many people projecting a "powered" aura. Resistance headaches are usually why people have headaches from subliminals. I seriously doubt your headaches are from resistance, given how you have responded so far.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-22-2020
Day 4 of 3rd round of ASRB2... (off label experiment with DMSI 3.3.2)
The latter part of the day was uneventful, except our 'date night' (code word for 'intimacy time'). The wife was amazing, it was like she was, I don't know, suddenly the ideal sex goddess. I won't go into detail but all the things we usually do that are quite enjoyable, were suddenly doubly or triply erotic and exciting. We both noticed it and commented on it. I was in 7th heaven. Now, it was the night we were going to go out for dinner to celebrate our 41st anniversary, and I had given her a small gift, but these are pretty normal things. She was on fire and so was I, but I felt the positive overflowing sexual energy coming from her and it was memorable. That is saying a lot because we've had a lot of sexual experiences together and this one was in the top 5, maybe even #1 or #2. I think we both felt more alive to one another and more sensitive to sensual touch and sexual sensations.
Today is:
Day 1 - 4th cycle of DMSI 3.3.2....
Enjoyed listening again to the sub. Felt it stirring the sexual energy, libido, positive energy within me and seemed to notice the same in her. In her, I noticed that some things that had previously been hard, when she did them (baking in this case) came out great! Completely different from a month ago the last time she baked. Don't know if this could be related but it's a positive thing.
I feel like I feel this buzzing/humming in me that can turn into libido with a small act of the will. This is a VERY interesting subliminal. I look forward to more of the effects and how this might continue to benefit our times together.
I can see how this might be a bad approach for people that don't have a firmly established ethos of permanently married and happily adjusted to one another sexually. My wife is submissive sexually and this seems to just light a fire for her. Even sleeping together feels much more sensual and fun-- both of us have noticed this.
Tomorrow, Sunday, (Day 2 of 4th cycle) we'll be out and about a bit but we'll see mostly folks we have long-term relationships with already so I don't expect it to be interesting, but we'll see.
After this next cycle, I will update and post a point by point evaluation of how well the sub has met its goals for me/us probably as an attachment, if I can.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-22-2020
(02-21-2020, 04:54 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-21-2020, 02:30 PM)Have at ye Wrote:(02-21-2020, 01:18 PM)rono Wrote: Shannon:
The ASRB calculation technology. I have a question or two... Wouldn't this vary from person to person as to how they respond to the sub and how quickly their brain incorporates it? I feel like my brain devours it, but I do take a regular protocol of Nootropics (including: Oxiracetam, Aniracetam, Piracetam, Phenylpiracetam, Centrophenoxine, Huperzine A and Sunifiram in various combinations).
Also, two days into this round of ASRB2, I got a migraine for the first time in many months. The after-effects have held on longer than they usually do, also. I suppose there are other explanations, dietary changes, etc. but thought I'd ask in case anyone else had something to offer.
The ASRBs are calculated for "optimal effectivness for the majority of users", IIRC.
From UMS on, the 5.75G subliminals have an additional set of instructions that guides the user to find the optimal listening pattern for themselves, personally. Although, IIRC, for DMSI it's recommended to stick to the ASRB2, although personally I did sometimes employ more loops to "push through" whenever I'd feel that it was warranted (I did stick to the ASRB2, though).
The ASRB2 is calculated for the best results of the most possible people. Some individuals will get better results from different values. There is a module being developed that is designed to cause your subconscious to figure out the optimal usage patterns for you, and then just use them, but it is far from perfect at this time.
Quote:Migraines/headache with subliminal programs can mean two or three different things, as far as I know: either overload of input (but that shouldn't be happening if you're following the ASRBs), overload of energy (this should normalize after some time, I guess) or some sort of resistance response - your body may be trying to dissuade you from using the program, in a way. But, as you yourself have pointed out, the migraine may be entirely unrelated to DMSI, especially if you've been having them every now and again anyway.
Imput overload headaches should be rare to nonexistent with current gen subs. Overload of energy should be about the same, uness you're exposing yourself to a group of too many people projecting a "powered" aura. Resistance headaches are usually why people have headaches from subliminals. I seriously doubt your headaches are from resistance, given how you have responded so far.
Thanks, Shannon!
Yeah, I don't think it's got anything to do with resistance.
I did feel like something was urging me to modify the pattern of listening. I was visualizing the sub effects as a flywheel (I believe I've mentioned this before) and felt like even while in the ASRB2 period that I would benefit from a short listen to at least the first segment or two (as viewed in Audacity). I experimented with this on a couple days, but felt like I was 'disobeying instructions' and should keep this part of the experiment to a minimum and go 'rogue' at a later date.
I believe I'll be trying this theory on subsequent ASRB2 periods, to give the flywheel a little extra push to keep it humming during the ASRB2 period.
I have a question about the structure of the subs related to my above theory:
- The sub is structured so that there are 5 minute bursts followed by 1 minute of apparent quiet (viewed in Audacity). Is each 5 minute burst identical to the others or are there several different ones?
If so, how many distinct 5 minute bursts are there?
Thanks, for the fun and unusual experiences through this sub. I never anticipated finding anything like this and am enjoying it thoroughly so far-- and so is my wife.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 02-23-2020
If you use a program, it's best to use it in whole loops at a time. Each period of audio is unique, and it only works because the rest of the audio is encountered at the end of the silence.
Glad you're enjoying it.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-24-2020
(02-23-2020, 09:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: If you use a program, it's best to use it in whole loops at a time. Each period of audio is unique, and it only works because the rest of the audio is encountered at the end of the silence.
Glad you're enjoying it.
That would explain why I often notice I'm feeling different things at different times during a loop. At one moment I feel a surge of energy at another maybe an edginess like almost anxiety, at another part feeling 'warm' down below, at others feeling affectionate, at others supremely confident, at others thinking about women and what I like about them.
This latter one, now that I think about it, is pretty pronounced for me. I didn't used to dwell on what I think the 'ideal woman' looked like, or "I like her hips, but not her butt, etc." but more of those sorts of thoughts come to me. It's all very clinical in a way. Taking the time to understand what I find attractive. Thankfully, most of it revolves around how my wife looks, or looked when she was at her best at different times during her life. Otherwise it could be rather distracting.
It's almost like a voice or reflex in my head saying, "stop, you just saw a woman, what did you find attractive about her?"
Does this make sense based on the scripts?
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 02-25-2020
(02-24-2020, 12:58 PM)rono Wrote:(02-23-2020, 09:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: If you use a program, it's best to use it in whole loops at a time. Each period of audio is unique, and it only works because the rest of the audio is encountered at the end of the silence.
Glad you're enjoying it.
That would explain why I often notice I'm feeling different things at different times during a loop. At one moment I feel a surge of energy at another maybe an edginess like almost anxiety, at another part feeling 'warm' down below, at others feeling affectionate, at others supremely confident, at others thinking about women and what I like about them.
This latter one, now that I think about it, is pretty pronounced for me. I didn't used to dwell on what I think the 'ideal woman' looked like, or "I like her hips, but not her butt, etc." but more of those sorts of thoughts come to me. It's all very clinical in a way. Taking the time to understand what I find attractive. Thankfully, most of it revolves around how my wife looks, or looked when she was at her best at different times during her life. Otherwise it could be rather distracting.
It's almost like a voice or reflex in my head saying, "stop, you just saw a woman, what did you find attractive about her?"
Does this make sense based on the scripts?
This program is trying to get you to have the freedom and opportunity to have sex with every woman you encounter who you find attractive. If you are fighting to limit that to just your wife, then it makes sense because the program is conflicting with that in some ways.
It's designed to achieve opportunity and interest, and to naturally and automatically seduce whatever female you encounter who you find sufficiently attractive sexually. So I suppose in that regard it is attempting to achieve its goals through your focus on your wife.
RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-25-2020
(02-25-2020, 10:19 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-24-2020, 12:58 PM)rono Wrote:(02-23-2020, 09:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: If you use a program, it's best to use it in whole loops at a time. Each period of audio is unique, and it only works because the rest of the audio is encountered at the end of the silence.
Glad you're enjoying it.
That would explain why I often notice I'm feeling different things at different times during a loop. At one moment I feel a surge of energy at another maybe an edginess like almost anxiety, at another part feeling 'warm' down below, at others feeling affectionate, at others supremely confident, at others thinking about women and what I like about them.
This latter one, now that I think about it, is pretty pronounced for me. I didn't used to dwell on what I think the 'ideal woman' looked like, or "I like her hips, but not her butt, etc." but more of those sorts of thoughts come to me. It's all very clinical in a way. Taking the time to understand what I find attractive. Thankfully, most of it revolves around how my wife looks, or looked when she was at her best at different times during her life. Otherwise it could be rather distracting.
It's almost like a voice or reflex in my head saying, "stop, you just saw a woman, what did you find attractive about her?"
Does this make sense based on the scripts?
This program is trying to get you to have the freedom and opportunity to have sex with every woman you encounter who you find attractive. If you are fighting to limit that to just your wife, then it makes sense because the program is conflicting with that in some ways.
It's designed to achieve opportunity and interest, and to naturally and automatically seduce whatever female you encounter who you find sufficiently attractive sexually. So I suppose in that regard it is attempting to achieve its goals through your focus on your wife.
That makes sense. I kind of thought it was something like that. It shouldn't be too much of a struggle because I really do find my wife very attractive--it's more than just body, though hers is great. It's eyes, style, what you know about them, how they handle themselves sexually, are they obviously submissive, etc.
I assume that the sub takes these things into account as well. e.g. I run into a '10' that is very physically attractive, but she comes across as ignorant or too slutty, etc. so she wouldn't rate that high in my attractiveness quotient. Or perhaps she's gorgeous and nice, but she's engaged to a good friend, so she would be much less interesting because of the external factors.
Am I getting the idea?