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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - GreekGod22 - 11-05-2021
@Shannon I was wondering if ME could have an effect on erectile disfunction ? I know that the main goal of the program is growth, but I think there is some possibility to effect ED, perhaps through improved self esteem.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Aude_Sapere - 11-05-2021
(11-03-2021, 10:45 AM)Oversoul Wrote: Ive noticed that I have and have always gotten the things I wanted much faster when I genuinely looked for and saw beauty in everything, regardless of how conventionally ugly they seem.
I read this and thought "that sounds like Damon Brand". Then I read your signature.
Yes, the "daily practice" is insanely effective. I highly recommend it.
Awesome to meet another GoM practitioner in the wild.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Oversoul - 11-05-2021
(11-05-2021, 05:36 AM)Aude_Sapere Wrote:(11-03-2021, 10:45 AM)Oversoul Wrote: Ive noticed that I have and have always gotten the things I wanted much faster when I genuinely looked for and saw beauty in everything, regardless of how conventionally ugly they seem.
I read this and thought "that sounds like Damon Brand". Then I read your signature.
Yes, the "daily practice" is insanely effective. I highly recommend it.
Awesome to meet another GoM practitioner in the wild.
Haha, nice to meet another GoM practitioner too
. I actually found Damon Brand (and Henry Archer) through someone in this forum and never looked back.The daily practice most definitely is insanely powerful and gets even stronger the more you use some of Damons other work.
Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to talk about anything, its always interesting to have a chat with other GoM practitioners
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-05-2021
(11-03-2021, 10:45 AM)Oversoul Wrote: Shannon, would adding a module that makes you see beauty in everything make things manifest faster?
Ive noticed that I have and have always gotten the things I wanted much faster when I genuinely looked for and saw beauty in everything, regardless of how conventionally ugly they seem.
Ofc not to see beauty to the detriment of yourself ofc, just a general sense of beauty in everything so that no one thing is put on a pedestal.
Seeing beauty in everything is a choice of perspective and point of view that is positive and associated strongly with gratitude and appreciation, which is also positive. That will have a profound effect on the person doing it. But this is also not the simplest thing to implement. I'll have to see what I can do with this, although I suspect I will find I have already implemented some things that are similar.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-05-2021
(11-04-2021, 04:40 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Since I started listening to UMS I started having sleeping issues. No matter when I go to sleep i'll sleep about 3-4 hours then wake up. Then i'm awake for a few hours and end up getting sleepy maybe an hour or so before work. This has been happening everyday and i end up tired and sleepy at work. I haven't had 8 hours of sleep (nonstop 8 hours) in a while.
UMS has two things in it that may result in sleep issues. The first is it is calling for action, which is contrary to sleep. I have no trouble sleeping while I listen, but I notice that gf is trying to sleep less so she can be more productive and does this by waking up earlier. The solution is to not listen while you're trying to sleep if this is causing a challenge to falling asleep. Another option, which by the sounds of it would not be useful for you, is to listen to a silence track until you fall asleep and then have the program start playing.
The second thing is that UMS is calling for actions and choices and changes to yourself that can trigger a lot of subconscious fear responses. Even though there is FRM in the script, the fear is still going to have to be dealt with and processed if it gets high enough, which may make sleeping difficult - especially if you play it at night. I have heard of next to no sleeping issues, but I would be inclined to believe they could result from the levels of subconscious fear I have been dealing with using this program, which I am sure others also have in some cases.
I'm personally seeing signs in two different directions (resistance and bodily responses) that UMS v2, and especially Stage 4, is causing some deep part of my subconscious to face and work through one or more phobia level fears it has apparently associated with becoming and being wealthy. This hasn't directly caused me sleep issues, but that part of me has attempted at one point to use sleep denial tactics (scorched earth type resistance) to get me to stop using the program. I recognized what it was trying to do and stubbornly refused to stop using the program; it failed, and stopped trying to use that tactic when it realized that it's efforts in that direction would not work.
I have an extremely high level of subconscious resistance to UMS v2. That is actually a very good thing, because it means the program is doing its job, digging out the entrenched parts of me that typically sabotage my efforts to become wealthy and have not been sufficiently affected by previous efforts so far. That means this program is finally doing all the right things and doing them deeply and powerfully enough to break through the fears and resistance that hold people back, even when they are as resistant and strong willed as I am. Usually I don't resist my own subliminals at all, but in this case, I am apparently fighting it as hard as I can at some level, and to my great pleasure, that part of me is losing the battle. All I have to do is keep using the program as the models have directed me to.
This program would not be triggering this level of fear and resistance if it was not doing it's job, which is basically to dig out and remove all the reasons why we don't let ourselves become wealthy. The levels of fear this can potentially generate are huge, but even though I am having to deal with all this, I don't feel fear at the conscious level, which means the FRM is also doing its job.
If fear is why you can't sleep, then you'll have to decide what to do; keep going until you work through that particular response, or find some other way to get enough sleep, or if your life does not allow those things, make some other type of change.
Quote:So if not mistaken i'm not supposed to use alpha wave mp3s with IMLS subs? Even if they have no affirmations but just to get relaxed and fall asleep? What have you guys done to solve sleeping issues when listening to subs?
Alpha isn't really all that useful for falling asleep. You want Theta or Delta, or alpha that leads to Theta and then Delta. Brainwave entrainment can be used with my subliminals, but it has to be done the right way; using it to fall asleep and then playing the subliminal is okay because the brainwave state while you sleep is not as important for achieving the program goals as the effects of the state shifting are for while you are awake. So helping you fall sleep is alright. But you want to play the program after you have fallen asleep if you're going to use it at night.
There is a lot of stuff in the skeleton script and key script that has use for helping people fall asleep when using the programs. The fact is, there are three specific goals a subliminal can have that will tend to trigger the most subconscious fear of literal death resulting from achieving those goals. They are sex, wealth and success. While we know that logically, becoming wealthy is either not a threat to your life or it can be dealt with by not being stupid about being wealthy, your subconscious only knows that it has imagined that the achievement of wealth, sex, success will result in you literally being killed.
One of the things that result when you try to clear out a fear is that it triggers the fear. So far nothing I have tried (and I have tried a lot of different things!) seems to prevent that from happening. And when you are dealing with an irrational part of yourself that has a limited level of understanding and only knows that it genuinely believes that achieving the goal = getting killed (imagine a child being afraid a monster will eat it if it looks under the bed at night, and you have a good idea what we are dealing with here) you're going to see a lot of fear resulting.
I remember laying awake at night as a little boy, hiding under my covers because I was terrified of what was in the dark, waiting to get me. Didn't matter that I had never seen these monsters I was afraid of. Didn't matter that nobody I knew ever saw one, or "got gotten" by them. Didn't matter that whenever I would pull out a flash light or turn on the lights, there was nothing there. I was at that age terrified of them anyway. It was basically a case of some part of me genuinely believing that getting up out of bed to turn on the lights would actually result in me getting killed by monsters under my bed who would catch and eat me.
I don't know what that little boy inside me who believes that achieving wealth thinks will make that outcome kill me, but he apparently does for some reason. If that is true for you as well, then even the solution may cause the problem. The solution is to dig out the fears and remove them; but that seems to trigger them. Fear seems perfectly designed to be self preserving, which is why it's taken me 5 years of work to make a FRM that works. But it's not perfect yet, and while it is achieving its goal, if there is enough fear to be dealt with, it may trigger some fear based responses. In this case, the solution your fearful side wants you to choose is, "Stop using the program!" But the way past those faulty beliefs that result in the fear is just the opposite. Otherwise, your fear will not be removed, and it will keep preventing you from achieving the goals the program had. Forever.
So if the issue is fear, then we have a challenge because the solution causes the problem while it is solving the problem, because the problem is that some part of you believes it will literally die if it executes and achieves the goals of the program. But the fearful parts cannot be freed of their fears unless you use the program, and the process of removing the fears triggers the fear of death because it also believes that it is the fear that holds you back that is keeping you safe and alive. If the fear is intense enough, the process will be somewhat uncomfortable in some way given the current level of power and technology in FRM (v5.0). The good news is, the FRM works so well that you only experience very minor effects at the conscious level.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-05-2021
(11-04-2021, 03:57 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: Hi @"Shannon"
What subliminals are you planning to work on after the current version of DMSI is released?
After DMSI, I'm going to build NSLW and then I will have a look-see at what makes the most sense to build from there.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-05-2021
(11-04-2021, 10:09 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: I Meant to post this HERE: Healing Toxic Shame is a deep one, perhaps some deeper more improved moduels for Emotional Pain Relief and healing aid as well as Absolute Self confidence upgrades will comes from the developments of DMSI,along the way.
what I mean to be as clear here as can be at 2 Oh 5 AM... is while optmizing and re-doing the confidence parts of the scripting for DMSI perhaps some deeper insights from these developements came come so really really helpful additions for EHAPR as well as ASC.
Toxic shame is a beast and a half..... but in time it CAN be slayed!!
I am of the belief that all shame is toxic. We shall see what results from DMSI in this direction, but there will eventually be a new version of OGSF that deals with this quite directly.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-05-2021
(11-05-2021, 03:48 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: @Shannon I was wondering if ME could have an effect on erectile disfunction ? I know that the main goal of the program is growth, but I think there is some possibility to effect ED, perhaps through improved self esteem.
That depends on the reason for the erectile dysfunction. If it is caused solely by things that are positively impacted by increasing your penis size, then sure. But most men have ED because of either a physical issue (age, damage) or because they hold faulty beliefs and fears that result from them as a result of their interpretation of what they have seen, read and experienced, and their conclusions as to what those experiences mean (i.e. what they have consequently accepted as being true).
ED caused by a fear of being ridiculed by a lover is certainly not going to be much affected by making your penis bigger unless the size of your penis is what you fear will trigger the ridicule. In a lot of cases of psychosomatic ED, the sufferer gets into a vicious cycle of having ED largely or completely because they are afraid of having ED when they want an erection. That would not be helped by increasing penis size.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-16-2021
(10-12-2021, 06:43 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Does TID also apply to physical change subs like ME?
No. TID is the effect that the program has before you start using it. As such it fades into existence from a VERY subtle point, and because it is less powerful and more subtle than actually running the program up until very shortly before you actually start listening, it can usually be resisted to the degree that it is not consciously noticed or acknowledged by the people who try to resist the program.
It is not present long enough, or powerfully enough, to make physical changes as far as I know currently.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-16-2021
(10-12-2021, 11:31 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: will 3.4 be adding in changes to the sniper?
I haven't determined that yet.