(10-30-2018, 01:55 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 11:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: I get why people use tactics. Use whatever you like to succeed I guess. Although this is why I'm throwing tactics and techniques out the window now and doing natural game, cause I know many guys feel that self-worth issue, that it's their game attracting the girls, not their true self. I'm starting to notice now that I connect with girls better when I convey my true self, basically don't even try think of what to do, but just let my subconscious guide me. Conversations flow better and girls are more attracted.

I like the natural approach as well.

(10-30-2018, 11:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: I get why people use tactics. Use whatever you like to succeed I guess. Although this is why I'm throwing tactics and techniques out the window now and doing natural game, cause I know many guys feel that self-worth issue, that it's their game attracting the girls, not their true self. I'm starting to notice now that I connect with girls better when I convey my true self, basically don't even try think of what to do, but just let my subconscious guide me. Conversations flow better and girls are more attracted.

(10-30-2018, 01:50 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 01:43 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 05:09 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: When suggesting a time the girl ghosted. I was trying a text method that some pua’s I know swear by but I e never gotten it to work. Rather it seems to set you up as her beta orbiter. Pissed at myself for using it when I know it doesn’t work. Still fascinates me that a girl can lose all interest in you based solely on what you say.

I heard that familiarity is very important to women.

If someone is a stranger, or new in her life, then saying one thing can scare her off forever / she will lose all interest.

But if you and her have known each other for months / years, and are familiar with one another, and you say the exact same thing (as the above situation), she will stay and not lose interest.

Well that’s what I’ve read anyway... Familiarity is a key ingredient to relationships with women.

You obviously are not following my journal. I’ve been on 2 dates with this girl and made out with her on date 2. 3 dates to sex is the beta norm so there’s no reason we couldn’t get together.

Also, in the future, please refrain from commenting here unless you know the background details. I’m getting tired of ignorant advice. Please read my signature as well.

(10-30-2018, 02:08 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 11:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: I get why people use tactics. Use whatever you like to succeed I guess. Although this is why I'm throwing tactics and techniques out the window now and doing natural game, cause I know many guys feel that self-worth issue, that it's their game attracting the girls, not their true self. I'm starting to notice now that I connect with girls better when I convey my true self, basically don't even try think of what to do, but just let my subconscious guide me. Conversations flow better and girls are more attracted.

In my experience, being myself has scared plenty of women off / lead to several women blocking me.

It hasn’t helped yet at attracting women.

In all fairness, I probably have never met the right kind of women for me. If I did meet someone that is ‘perfect for me’ then being myself would likely be extremely attractive to her.

But it did flush out the wrong kind of women. I doubt I would have been happy with some of the women that blocked me though.

As a 30 yo, with zero relationship experience and still a virgin (I have reached ‘1st base’ a few times though), being myself is the only viable option.

Being honest about my lack of experience might have scared off quite a few women, but one day a woman will really appreciate being the first of a 30+ yo.

Being a 30 yo virgin, who has never had a relationship, is a fetish to some women (according to some threads on the internet).

Some women say they wish they could meet a 30+ yo virgin and be his first, and that she would feel special being with someone that didn’t just throw away his virginity to some random escort / *****.


This also applies to Catman, and other older virgins also.


For the record, PUA hasn’t worked for me either.

But yeah... being yourself should work in theory, it makes logical sense.

From what I’ve read, there are many different kinds of women, and some would love you (when being yourself), some would hate you (when being yourself) and most would be unimpressed and not even notice that you exist (most women would see you as just another uninteresting / boring guy, just like the millions of others).

Almost every guy is boring to most women, but totally awesome to a rare few (from what I’ve read, and I’ve read thousands of threads about attraction and relationships).


I reckon almost every guy is a sexy fetish to at least one woman in the world.

I’m sure some women out there have a total Sarge fetish... salesman are quite sexy to some women...

(10-30-2018, 02:08 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 11:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: I get why people use tactics. Use whatever you like to succeed I guess. Although this is why I'm throwing tactics and techniques out the window now and doing natural game, cause I know many guys feel that self-worth issue, that it's their game attracting the girls, not their true self. I'm starting to notice now that I connect with girls better when I convey my true self, basically don't even try think of what to do, but just let my subconscious guide me. Conversations flow better and girls are more attracted.

In my experience, being myself has scared plenty of women off / lead to several women blocking me.

It hasn’t helped yet at attracting women.

In all fairness, I probably have never met the right kind of women for me. If I did meet someone that is ‘perfect for me’ then being myself would likely be extremely attractive to her.

But it did flush out the wrong kind of women. I doubt I would have been happy with some of the women that blocked me though.

As a 30 yo, with zero relationship experience and still a virgin (I have reached ‘1st base’ a few times though), being myself is the only viable option.

Being honest about my lack of experience might have scared off quite a few women, but one day a woman will really appreciate being the first of a 30+ yo.

Being a 30 yo virgin, who has never had a relationship, is a fetish to some women (according to some threads on the internet).

Some women say they wish they could meet a 30+ yo virgin and be his first, and that she would feel special being with someone that didn’t just throw away his virginity to some random escort / *****.


This also applies to Catman, and other older virgins also.


For the record, PUA hasn’t worked for me either.

But yeah... being yourself should work in theory, it makes logical sense.

From what I’ve read, there are many different kinds of women, and some would love you (when being yourself), some would hate you (when being yourself) and most would be unimpressed and not even notice that you exist (most women would see you as just another uninteresting / boring guy, just like the millions of others).

Almost every guy is boring to most women, but totally awesome to a rare few (from what I’ve read, and I’ve read thousands of threads about attraction and relationships).


I reckon almost every guy is a sexy fetish to at least one woman in the world.

I’m sure some women out there have a total Sarge fetish... salesman are quite sexy to some women...

(10-30-2018, 02:14 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 01:50 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 01:43 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 05:09 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: When suggesting a time the girl ghosted. I was trying a text method that some pua’s I know swear by but I e never gotten it to work. Rather it seems to set you up as her beta orbiter. Pissed at myself for using it when I know it doesn’t work. Still fascinates me that a girl can lose all interest in you based solely on what you say.

I heard that familiarity is very important to women.

If someone is a stranger, or new in her life, then saying one thing can scare her off forever / she will lose all interest.

But if you and her have known each other for months / years, and are familiar with one another, and you say the exact same thing (as the above situation), she will stay and not lose interest.

Well that’s what I’ve read anyway... Familiarity is a key ingredient to relationships with women.

You obviously are not following my journal. I’ve been on 2 dates with this girl and made out with her on date 2. 3 dates to sex is the beta norm so there’s no reason we couldn’t get together.

Also, in the future, please refrain from commenting here unless you know the background details. I’m getting tired of ignorant advice. Please read my signature as well.

From what I’ve read,

A lot of women need way more than just 2 dates to develop familiarity with a new guy.

I don’t know from experience. I’ve only been on 2 dates in my life, with the same woman, and she got naked without me telling her to and said she wants me to sleep with her.

But circumstances outside both our control stop any sex / relationship from occurring (group home being overprotective / over-the-top punitive anti-rape policies).


FYI, this isn’t really advice, just sharing thoughts and discussing.

But next time I will double read your journal, just to be clear on details.

(10-30-2018, 02:22 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 02:14 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 01:50 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 01:43 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 05:09 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: When suggesting a time the girl ghosted. I was trying a text method that some pua’s I know swear by but I e never gotten it to work. Rather it seems to set you up as her beta orbiter. Pissed at myself for using it when I know it doesn’t work. Still fascinates me that a girl can lose all interest in you based solely on what you say.

I heard that familiarity is very important to women.

If someone is a stranger, or new in her life, then saying one thing can scare her off forever / she will lose all interest.

But if you and her have known each other for months / years, and are familiar with one another, and you say the exact same thing (as the above situation), she will stay and not lose interest.

Well that’s what I’ve read anyway... Familiarity is a key ingredient to relationships with women.

You obviously are not following my journal. I’ve been on 2 dates with this girl and made out with her on date 2. 3 dates to sex is the beta norm so there’s no reason we couldn’t get together.

Also, in the future, please refrain from commenting here unless you know the background details. I’m getting tired of ignorant advice. Please read my signature as well.

From what I’ve read,

A lot of women need way more than just 2 dates to develop familiarity with a new guy.

I don’t know from experience. I’ve only been on 2 dates in my life, with the same woman, and she got naked without me telling her to and said she wants me to sleep with her.

But circumstances outside both our control stop any sex / relationship from occurring (group home being overprotective / over-the-top punitive anti-rape policies).


FYI, this isn’t really advice, just sharing thoughts and discussing.

But next time I will double read your journal, just to be clear on details.

I appreciate that, thank you.

However, since you are a virgin and I am not, we will take my experience over yours in this matter. I’ve always had sex within 2 dates, once within an hour.

(10-31-2018, 11:37 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Just go out and meet as many women as possible then screen them for fast sex. The only downside is that after you shagged over 30 girls word gets around that your a bad boy. Which means girls who want boyfriends won't go near you especially if you live in a small city. So just keep that in mind.

(10-31-2018, 11:52 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-31-2018, 11:37 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Just go out and meet as many women as possible then screen them for fast sex. The only downside is that after you shagged over 30 girls word gets around that your a bad boy. Which means girls who want boyfriends won't go near you especially if you live in a small city. So just keep that in mind.

I'm not sure if I live in a small city or not. What's the criteria? million people or less?

(10-31-2018, 05:07 PM)apollolux Wrote:

(10-31-2018, 11:52 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-31-2018, 11:37 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Just go out and meet as many women as possible then screen them for fast sex. The only downside is that after you shagged over 30 girls word gets around that your a bad boy. Which means girls who want boyfriends won't go near you especially if you live in a small city. So just keep that in mind.

I'm not sure if I live in a small city or not. What's the criteria? million people or less?

In the US at least I would think that "small city" would be in the tens of thousands, maybe upward of one or two hundred thousand. Even some of the biggest cities here don't necessarily reach a full million in population (acc. to Wikipedia, anything outside of the top ten are all less than one million). There are state capitals that don't even reach 100,000 people! Don't know what the threshold might be in Canada.