(09-02-2016, 03:21 PM)Steven Wrote: @SargeMaximus

Thank you for making that point.

(09-02-2016, 03:19 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon and to anyone else who would like to comment,

For some of us, v2.3 was a real challenge. As I've been coming out of the negative side of all the weirdness, I had an odd but likely positive experience today.

I went to get some clothes and began talking to one of the women there. During my conversation, she vacillated between standing just out of arm's reach and standing close enough to casually touch. She mentioned her clothes size multiple times. She made a comment of "I don't wear certain clothes because how I dress in the bed room is different than how I dress when I'm out and about." She stuck her tongue out more than 7 times. Every once and awhile she disagreed with me. I challenged her once and she backed down and restated what she said/meant. She was slightly blushed. She stroked her hair a few times. She kept making comments along the theme of "yeh I already know that" (agreeing with me but implying I was saying something redundant) which made me wonder if she was closed off or trying to impress me with her independence and self-sufficiency (like she doesn't need a man and her life is completely together) or trying to qualify. She implied how old she was.

But I wondered if she was defensive.

1) Is there a way DMSI can be set up so it lowers the responders' defensiveness to the user... maybe even turns around the defenses (I'm not sure how to better say it)

2) Shannon what do you think was going on. I saw green lights, but I felt she was too "prickly" to get more casual with... but she made all those unnecessary, slightly sexual disclosures like a talking personal ad.

3) Perhaps I needed to direct the conversation to more casual/fun topics.

(09-02-2016, 03:19 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon and to anyone else who would like to comment,

For some of us, v2.3 was a real challenge. As I've been coming out of the negative side of all the weirdness, I had an odd but likely positive experience today.

I went to get some clothes and began talking to one of the women there. During my conversation, she vacillated between standing just out of arm's reach and standing close enough to casually touch. She mentioned her clothes size multiple times. She made a comment of "I don't wear certain clothes because how I dress in the bed room is different than how I dress when I'm out and about." She stuck her tongue out more than 7 times. Every once and awhile she disagreed with me. I challenged her once and she backed down and restated what she said/meant. She was slightly blushed. She stroked her hair a few times. She kept making comments along the theme of "yeh I already know that" (agreeing with me but implying I was saying something redundant) which made me wonder if she was closed off or trying to impress me with her independence and self-sufficiency (like she doesn't need a man and her life is completely together) or trying to qualify. She implied how old she was.

But I wondered if she was defensive.

1) Is there a way DMSI can be set up so it lowers the responders' defensiveness to the user... maybe even turns around the defenses (I'm not sure how to better say it)

2) Shannon what do you think was going on. I saw green lights, but I felt she was too "prickly" to get more casual with... but she made all those unnecessary, slightly sexual disclosures like a talking personal ad.

3) Perhaps I needed to direct the conversation to more casual/fun topics.

(09-03-2016, 01:49 AM)AriGold Wrote: I have to say I am against "healing" modules or OGSF within programs. Yes, they help if there is a trauma or something holding you back.

But otherwise it is constantly telling the subconscious "you need to heal your trauma, just let it go, let go of all traumas" and even when you are healed the subconscious is trying to look for traumas (FOCUS) that are to be healed, because it is constantly bombed with the word trauma, guilt, shame or fear. So the healing will never end.

I don't think we want to put our subconscious into a hospital and wait for it to regenerate and heal every little thing. It's like "look I can walk, I can move without pain, I should get out of here" but Dr. Healing-Module says "look, there is still a scar, let's treat that and after that we will see".

(09-03-2016, 01:49 AM)AriGold Wrote: I have to say I am against "healing" modules or OGSF within programs. Yes, they help if there is a trauma or something holding you back.

But otherwise it is constantly telling the subconscious "you need to heal your trauma, just let it go, let go of all traumas" and even when you are healed the subconscious is trying to look for traumas (FOCUS) that are to be healed, because it is constantly bombed with the word trauma, guilt, shame or fear. So the healing will never end.

I don't think we want to put our subconscious into a hospital and wait for it to regenerate and heal every little thing. It's like "look I can walk, I can move without pain, I should get out of here" but Dr. Healing-Module says "look, there is still a scar, let's treat that and after that we will see".

That is the reason (in my opinion) why AM5 produced so much more noticeable results. AM6 took the focus to the healing, not the development to the biggest self that you can be. It made you less beta (healing) but not alpha (leading).

Just my thoughts, maybe some of you will understand what I am trying to say.

(09-03-2016, 01:49 AM)AriGold Wrote: Just my thoughts, maybe some of you will understand what I am trying to say.

(09-03-2016, 02:58 AM)AriGold Wrote: It's about ALL programs. AM with OGSF/E2 in it, LTU with OGSF, ...
If our subconscious always gets bombed with negative words (Shannon might disagree on this one), these words are imprinted into our brains more deeply. Even though it is "overcoming fear", this will be imprinted repeatedly.

I am absolutely sure we can heal in the field, if it is smaller things that are holding us back. For bigger things there is E2 and EPRHA (or EHPRA or ExxxA - whatever).
Also the goals of programs seem to lose the focus with more goal phrasings within it. Like DMSI with 4 goals and more. Yes the newer "technology" is getting more content into the same sentence, so it is easy to put together 20 4G programs into one 5G program, but we lose focus.

(09-02-2016, 08:30 PM)dissonance Wrote: Have people been saying v2.3 feels weird? What exactly do you mean by this? What were the effects that you saw people were saying that is "weird"?