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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 06:31 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 06:06 AM)callie Wrote: Congrats on the store Shannon, the new changes sounds promising.

On another note. Would you say E5 is a better fit to help resolve repressed anger, rather than OFv3?

   One  Informational Tip here for ya Callie: Anger is a form of Fear. In MY view either way you wont go wrong, however,let Shannon lay the knowledge on ya about all of that.

I don't agree that anger is a form of fear.  I spend all day long working on something, and my assistant comes in and erases it because he thinks it's an error without consulting me, and I get angry.  Because I'm afraid of what?  I don't see how it's fear.  Can you show me the reasoning behind why you believe it is?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Johannesbrst - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 08:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 06:31 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 06:06 AM)callie Wrote: Congrats on the store Shannon, the new changes sounds promising.

On another note. Would you say E5 is a better fit to help resolve repressed anger, rather than OFv3?

   One  Informational Tip here for ya Callie: Anger is a form of Fear. In MY view either way you wont go wrong, however,let Shannon lay the knowledge on ya about all of that.

I don't agree that anger is a form of fear.  I spend all day long working on something, and my assistant comes in and erases it because he thinks it's an error without consulting me, and I get angry.  Because I'm afraid of what?  I don't see how it's fear.  Can you show me the reasoning behind why you believe it is?

It's not necessary to feel anger in that situation, or for that matter even to express the anger. A more considered approach would be to sit down with the assistant to understand his/hers reasoning behind and reason for acting like he or she did. Being angry at the assistant will either create fear in the assistant (and maybe making him/her even more insecure and of lower esteem, which probably is the reason behind the mistake in the first place) or in the worst case make them resent you and possibly ruin a good assistant (who just needed some encouragement and help understanding the process at the job).

Being angry in this case perhaps stems from you feeling out of control of the destiny of your company (without fear you would trust that things will work out fine, and even know that anger isn't going to help you there) or the feeling that you can't "control" your employees (only fear tells you that you need to control someone, good judgement know that interpersonal relationships are better cultivated with carrots than sticks). Without fear you are more capable to understand other people's perspective and how you can work with them to adopt an approach more in line with what you have seen is productive and works toward bringing out the potential in the assistant, as well as the potential in the company. 

Previously I though that the only feasible situation for anger was to defend yourself, but I'm not even sure of that. The best boxers/MMA/UFC-athletes in the world don't get sucked into anger. If they did, their judgement would be clouded and they would make more mistakes. Instead, I believe they are driven more by a survival instinct (i.e. "I want to live got damn it!") rather than the fear version of that instinct (i.e. "I'm going to kill you before you will kill me, got damn it!").


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 10:57 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 08:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 06:31 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 06:06 AM)callie Wrote: Congrats on the store Shannon, the new changes sounds promising.

On another note. Would you say E5 is a better fit to help resolve repressed anger, rather than OFv3?

   One  Informational Tip here for ya Callie: Anger is a form of Fear. In MY view either way you wont go wrong, however,let Shannon lay the knowledge on ya about all of that.

I don't agree that anger is a form of fear.  I spend all day long working on something, and my assistant comes in and erases it because he thinks it's an error without consulting me, and I get angry.  Because I'm afraid of what?  I don't see how it's fear.  Can you show me the reasoning behind why you believe it is?

It's not necessary to feel anger in that situation, or for that matter even to express the anger. A more considered approach would be to sit down with the assistant to understand his/hers reasoning behind and reason for acting like he or she did. Being angry at the assistant will either create fear in the assistant (and maybe making him/her even more insecure and of lower esteem, which probably is the reason behind the mistake in the first place) or in the worst case make them resent you and possibly ruin a good assistant (who just needed some encouragement and help understanding the process at the job).

Being angry in this case perhaps stems from you feeling out of control of the destiny of your company (without fear you would trust that things will work out fine, and even know that anger isn't going to help you there) or the feeling that you can't "control" your employees (only fear tells you that you need to control someone, good judgement know that interpersonal relationships are better cultivated with carrots than sticks). Without fear you are more capable to understand other people's perspective and how you can work with them to adopt an approach more in line with what you have seen is productive and works toward bringing out the potential in the assistant, as well as the potential in the company. 

Previously I though that the only feasible situation for anger was to defend yourself, but I'm not even sure of that. The best boxers/MMA/UFC-athletes in the world don't get sucked into anger. If they did, their judgement would be clouded and they would make more mistakes. Instead, I believe they are driven more by a survival instinct (i.e. "I want to live got damn it!") rather than the fear version of that instinct (i.e. "I'm going to kill you before you will kill me, got damn it!").

It is also not necessary to feel fear when your logical brain can do a fine job keeping you safe, but you do, and for much the same reason.

In the case I'm talking about, this particular assistant knew better than to make changes without asking if the changes would be un-doing someone else's work while multiple people were working on different parts of the same general task.  He made those changes because he was making blind assumptions - and it wasn't even his assigned part of the task.  It briefly made me angry because I spent the whole previous day doing that job when it was technically not my job to do in the first place (I was doing it because nobody else could at the moment and it needed to get done), and because there was no communication to verify the actions necessary, which that assistant knew better than to do.  Control really had nothing to do with it.  The actions of that assistant were flat stupid, and he admitted as much himself when I asked him why the hell he would just erase what took me 8 hours to accomplish.  Those actions wasted almost $1,200 and a whole day of my time in not one, but two directions, since I wasn't supposed to be the one doing that job in the first place.  I was doing it because we didn't have a way for Ben to do it yet.  And all this for no better reason that he didn't follow our common sense standard protocol which he knew about:  Ask for verification that an action on a multi-party job will not damage anyone else's work.

Now in the same way that I don't have to feel fear about being stung by a honey bee because I know standing still will be sufficient to keep me from being stung (which I use as an example, because honeybees don't scare me), I also didn't have to get angry because logically one can't go back in time and un-do it once it's done.  But how many people could say that in that same situation, they wouldn't get angry?  Could you?  Is it really so much about control?  You haven't convinced me.  Instead of fear, I assert that anger is much more likely to arise from frustration.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Bignoise - 08-16-2021

Hi! Congrats on the news about the shop. Streaming is not for me in this case, but I think it’s a good oportunity for new clients to try things without paying the full price, so I think it’s a good business idea.
One question if you don’t mind. Will the current purchases be transferred to the new shop? Will I be able download my previous purchases? Or… if the version of DMSI is updated would i be able to still get it for free?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 12:46 PM)Bignoise Wrote: Hi! Congrats on the news about the shop. Streaming is not for me in this case, but I think it’s a good oportunity for new clients to try things without paying the full price, so I think it’s a good business idea.
One question if you don’t mind. Will the current purchases be transferred to the new shop? Will I be able download my previous purchases? Or… if the version of DMSI is updated would i be able to still get it for free?

We are as we speak making a database export to the new store so that your account, history and purchases will be accessible there as they are here.  The goal is for there to be as little change and inconvenience to you as possible so you still have access to all of your rightful downloads and refund options, etc.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - TouchyCat - 08-16-2021

I just read the post Shannon, and I will say what a bold move! 

Love the idea of subscription! It makes things affordable even for me who lives in a third world country with a low income per capita. Superb.

Can't wait for the new website, design and all the new options. 

PS: I don't see why some users on this forum are quite against subscription. Isn't it just like Spotify/Joox for subs? If one can use Spotify that means one can use Shannon's in-browser subs.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - NOMAD - 08-16-2021

(08-15-2021, 11:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-14-2021, 12:06 PM)Amann Wrote: Shannon...you mentioned that the price of subs was going up. Is that happening soon? Need to get my order in.

I'll be making a special announcement soon to let you know when the price is going to change.

I'm relieved to see this. I intended to purchase UMSv2 tonight but I see that you guys are already transitioning to the new store.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 04:04 PM)NOMAD Wrote:
(08-15-2021, 11:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-14-2021, 12:06 PM)Amann Wrote: Shannon...you mentioned that the price of subs was going up. Is that happening soon? Need to get my order in.

I'll be making a special announcement soon to let you know when the price is going to change.

I'm relieved to see this. I intended to purchase UMSv2 tonight but I see that you guys are already transitioning to the new store.

Unfortunately, the communication between teams has not exactly been what I wanted, and this has led to misunderstandings that resulted in timing issues.  Out of my hands to prevent or fix, unfortunately, as it's caused by external factors.  But I'm doing my best to coordinate this all for opening tomorrow, and we're closer to on target than I expected right now.  If I had more control of the situation we would have had a couple days to let you buy at the old price, but that wasn't how things played out, and I did my best to give heads up in the mean time.  Once we have verified the new store is up and functional, we will see how things go.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - HD87 - 08-16-2021

Hi @Shannon Congrats on the new store, can you tell me when the new store is going to be up and running, I have finished umsv2 stage 2 and need to buy stage 3, or subscribe to the new service,

Secondly I have a question, about the subscription service, will you be offering free download of one subliminal of choice every few months to subscribers that have a recurring subscription and do not cancel as a bonus, so we actually get to download and keep some subs?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - NOMAD - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 04:31 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 04:04 PM)NOMAD Wrote:
(08-15-2021, 11:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-14-2021, 12:06 PM)Amann Wrote: Shannon...you mentioned that the price of subs was going up. Is that happening soon? Need to get my order in.

I'll be making a special announcement soon to let you know when the price is going to change.

I'm relieved to see this. I intended to purchase UMSv2 tonight but I see that you guys are already transitioning to the new store.

Once we have verified the new store is up and functional, we will see how things go.
 
I'm becoming increasingly more  disappointed that I didn't "panic buy".


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 05:22 PM)NOMAD Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 04:31 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 04:04 PM)NOMAD Wrote:
(08-15-2021, 11:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-14-2021, 12:06 PM)Amann Wrote: Shannon...you mentioned that the price of subs was going up. Is that happening soon? Need to get my order in.

I'll be making a special announcement soon to let you know when the price is going to change.

I'm relieved to see this. I intended to purchase UMSv2 tonight but I see that you guys are already transitioning to the new store.

Once we have verified the new store is up and functional, we will see how things go.
 
I'm becoming increasingly more  disappointed that I didn't "panic buy".

I have been planning to have the day the store opens retain the sale prices for buying and downloading 5.75.xG subs so that people who didn't get here in time don't have issues.  The timing wasn't exactly smooth and it didn't go the way I was trying to make it go in any direction, so we just adapt.  It's all good.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 04:35 PM)HD87 Wrote: Hi @Shannon  Congrats on the new store, can you tell me when the new store is going to be up and running, I have finished umsv2 stage 2 and need to buy stage 3, or subscribe to the new service,

If everything goes smoothly, it should be opening sometime on the 17th.  If not, it might take longer.  Exactly how long will depend on how two of the last three setup operations go.  Right now we are transferring the database and we have to verify that and make sure all the order histories work.  Once we have that and the appropriate downloads for each customer verified as available, we only have to point the store's domain to the new store and remove the password.  Exactly when it opens, I don't know.  I'm really hoping it's tomorrow.

Quote:Secondly I have a question,  about the subscription service, will you be offering free download of one subliminal of choice every few months to subscribers that have a recurring subscription and do not cancel as a bonus, so we actually get to download and keep some subs?

The subscription will work like this.  You pick which subliminal(s) you wish to access as a subscription, and then you simply subscribe to each one.  You'll be charged the monthly fee for each one you subscribe to and then you'll immediately be able to listen to them through the web browser based player.  There is no download.  If and when you no longer wish to be subscribed to that particular subliminal, you have the option of cancelling or pausing the subscription for it.  We will not be issuing refunds for subscriptions, however, so be sure you want to subscribe if and when you do.  There is no bonus download.  

If you want to download and keep them, you have to buy them at full price.  If you can't afford to do that, your option right now is to save up.  We may or may not have a payment plan option in the future; I haven't finished researching that option for suitability yet.  But if we do, as I understand it, you would pay for the full download in 4 monthly installments of 25% each.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Z-Man - 08-16-2021

(08-16-2021, 06:59 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(08-16-2021, 04:35 PM)HD87 Wrote: Hi @Shannon  Congrats on the new store, can you tell me when the new store is going to be up and running, I have finished umsv2 stage 2 and need to buy stage 3, or subscribe to the new service,

If everything goes smoothly, it should be opening sometime on the 17th.  If not, it might take longer.  Exactly how long will depend on how two of the last three setup operations go.  Right now we are transferring the database and we have to verify that and make sure all the order histories work.  Once we have that and the appropriate downloads for each customer verified as available, we only have to point the store's domain to the new store and remove the password.  Exactly when it opens, I don't know.  I'm really hoping it's tomorrow.

Quote:Secondly I have a question,  about the subscription service, will you be offering free download of one subliminal of choice every few months to subscribers that have a recurring subscription and do not cancel as a bonus, so we actually get to download and keep some subs?

The subscription will work like this.  You pick which subliminal(s) you wish to access as a subscription, and then you simply subscribe to each one.  You'll be charged the monthly fee for each one you subscribe to and then you'll immediately be able to listen to them through the web browser based player.  There is no download.  If and when you no longer wish to be subscribed to that particular subliminal, you have the option of cancelling or pausing the subscription for it.  We will not be issuing refunds for subscriptions, however, so be sure you want to subscribe if and when you do.  There is no bonus download.  

If you want to download and keep them, you have to buy them at full price.  If you can't afford to do that, your option right now is to save up.  We may or may not have a payment plan option in the future; I haven't finished researching that option for suitability yet.  But if we do, as I understand it, you would pay for the full download in 4 monthly installments of 25% each.

Hey Shannon Quadpay offers 4 payments. Paypal offers payments, purchases over $99 give 6 months to pay. That is how I can offer your programs.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Steve_ - 08-16-2021

Hi all, I am the project manager for the store migration. The project has been in the works for a long time, and we are very excited to roll out these changes for you! The goal of the migration is to improve the overall store experience and resolve issues such as Ben having to manually complete certain orders. The other issue to address was to future proof the store. The old implementation was becoming cumbersome for Shannon to manage, so we wanted to consolidate all of the functionality into one, organized, easy to use admin interface.  The new website has a whole host of features including the subscription program, which we hope will put more subliminals into the hands of those who otherwise wouldn’t be able to experience them. Shannon’s lifelong goal is to improve the lives of those around him and the lives of those around the world, and this new website will help accomplish that 10 fold. We aim to transform the subliminal experience and we hope you’ll enjoy the new website!

To address some comments I’ve seen here:
You’re correct, the subscription program isn’t for everyone. The subscription pricing aims to allow people to be financially responsible while also allowing them to experience something they otherwise wouldn’t have. Yes, this is a new system, so we will be listening to your feedback in the coming days and months to make additional changes. This wouldn’t be possible without you, so we greatly appreciate your loyalty and feedback!

And also to state the obvious, I have a busy and successful life, in part thanks to Shannon’s subliminal, so I usually operate behind the scenes and am not often on the forum. I’ll continue to monitor this thread to make sure we adequately address your questions, concerns, and to make this experience worth while.

Thanks!
-Steve