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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 04-01-2018 (04-01-2018, 06:09 AM)Sanbosay Wrote:I really need to listen to this lol. Ive been passing too many opportunities(04-01-2018, 05:39 AM)kingpill Wrote: The respect you get from DMSI is f***g real. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Blacksheep - 04-01-2018 That's a crazy story man, wow. I'm guessing things didn't end well for that guy. I know what you mean because DMSI gave me a confident but really humble vibe. Everyone will respect that so you don't have to worry about people attacking you. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - KingDavid93 - 04-01-2018 Between TID and 4 weeks of side B usage I went through 8 weeks of effortless no fap, within 4 days of Side A usage led to a nocturnal emission and a returned desire for porn and masturbation. This appears to be resistance or a reversal of some sort, I'm confused as to why B didn't cause this to happen but A has. Could this be that A is going farther than B in achieving goals or perhaps that my subconscious is adverse to H&C? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 04-01-2018 I don't see wet deams as bad. I had one last night and it's good, for me it reduces neediness and it doesn't make me feel like crap like masturbation can for example the next day or so. Also when I did "overcoming porn addiction" a few years ago I was having regular wet dreams, it was like it was helping reboot my sex drive and it was a positive thing in that case. The desire for porn though sounds like some kind of resistance. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 04-02-2018 (04-01-2018, 10:31 AM)Travis Wrote: That's a crazy story man, wow. I'm guessing things didn't end well for that guy. Luckily for him, police came and escorted him out. The guys didn't wanna do anything to him with 100 witnesses watching so they were trying to get him to go outside which he didnt do. I defo get you about the the calm and humble vibe. Other people are especially humble towards you aswell. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 04-03-2018 (03-30-2018, 02:31 PM)Fluffy Wrote:Quote:Goal #2: To support goal #1, we have to develop, enhance and improve your self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, overcome fear, guilt and shame (yes, it has the entire script of E2’s OGSF and self validation modules in it [V2.0 and later], although it is modified to not disrupt the goals of this program) and so forth. These are the goals that will make you congruent with the effects you get from Goal #1, which is required for maximum success. Now much more heavily, aggressively and specifically focused on the achieving the goals of the program. This goal is only active in 3.2-A. It does say pretty clearly... this goal is only active in A. Quote:Also how does the Self Esteem program fit into this because that program was added to 3.2B, so is that left out of A because goal 2 deals with self esteem already? The script of SE 5.5G is included in B. The scripting of A that is not in B is designed to generate self esteem through how it heals and clears you, and how the H&C modules interact. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 04-03-2018 (03-30-2018, 02:43 PM)Purple Jade Wrote: Hi Shannon, I think you would do much better to do a playlist of SIA, followed by one loop of DMSI. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 04-03-2018 (03-31-2018, 12:05 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: I would also chime in that I'm feeling the drain as well. Need extra sleep a lot more now. I do wonder, if its not H&C then could it be a change in epigenetics then? I remember you saying that you had a strong disposition to believe that the sub at this point might be affecting us on a epigenetic level. If this is true could this be whats causing some of the tiredness maybe? I know we discussed how when you implement changing on a genetic level that you might experience tiredness from weeks to maybe even months. So maybe even a change at the epigenetic level might cause similar tiredness. The drain will either be energy expended while the various coopperative parts of you battle it out subconsciously with the various non-cooperative parts, or energy expended because you are executing and probably encountering a lot of people who trigger the sniper. Quote:Also Shannon I had 2 questions if you aren't busy. I know you said before that you might come out with the genetic changing stuff at around or slightly after 6G is finished. Have you considered maybe finishing it first then have it included in DMSI final? I'm just asking because I do think it might play an important part. If evolutionary theory is true and women choose the man with the most resources and/or best genetics to breed with wouldn't it make sense to have that included in DMSI final? Obviously I think you already said you might include something with wealth management/growth in a later edition but just seeing if you gave more thought to tackling the other side of the issue with the genetic stuff. I can't speak for anyone else but I know for myself I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for final if it included the genetic component (granted we still have 3.3 before that). Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while. Quote:Also, have you thought about where you will put AYPs in 6G in the que? Would consider it probably after your done testing 6G with ASC (possibly DMSI final if that turns out to be 6G)? I mention that because I know from the threads that it seems like AM7 would be the most wanted 6G sub after your done testing but I know it usually takes you a while to complete a 6 stage sub (that's if AM7 even needs to be 6 stages). Could it be possible to maybe squeeze a few 6G AYPs in between that time since I assume ( I hope correctly) that the AYPs wouldn't take as much time due to length of the scripts and if they are of the same type you would only have to change a few words around? The queue for 6G has two programs in it solidly. The first is ASC. The second is a custom sub. After that I will be deciding what to build. AYP should be doable as a focusfire, but we shall see. I don't have enough information yet as to what is necessary to build that in 6G. And by the way, both of the custom jobs I am building will be eventually made available to you guys to buy if you wish. And both titles will be popular. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 04-03-2018 (03-31-2018, 03:10 AM)Fluffy Wrote: Shannon would DMSI 3.2 in the long term help with Avoidant Attachment Style It very well could, although I don't know for sure. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 04-03-2018 (04-01-2018, 08:00 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Between TID and 4 weeks of side B usage I went through 8 weeks of effortless no fap, within 4 days of Side A usage led to a nocturnal emission and a returned desire for porn and masturbation. The nocturnal emission and return of desire for porn together tells me that some part of H&C scares you deeply, or maybe you know that H&C will result in you achieving the goals, which is creating resistance and reversal. Remember that reversal resistance is always in response to high levels of fear. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarthXedonias - 04-03-2018 Quote:Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while. Jeez, if that's the case I think I'm starting to really understand why this whole project has even taken this long to get to this point. I mean there's obviously been resistance but add on top of that having to deal with taking over 132 different factors to get the woman even interested has to be a pain. This makes me wonder though even though 3.3 will be quite a while from now since your priority with 3.2 was the user side (stop people from resisting and self sabotaging) will your goal for 3.3 be mostly affected side? I ask because from what I've seen so far I feel pretty darn good on 3.2 though there are still some minor hiccups (still have problems with porn every once in a while and a small degree of fantasizing). The only problems i've felt so far is the aura doesn't seem to have as much of a affect on a sexual side. I don't know if that just means the aura needs to be buffed up, need to make a wall for affected side to make the effects inescapable, and/or that my "Don't care attitude" is causing the aura to not snipe anyone. On that last part its kind of weird I could look at a woman for like a moment but then I just lose interest totally and don't care if shes getting affected. Still kind of not sure if this is resistance trying to kill my desire outright or if it really is just non-neediness to the extreme. It could be also my standards being risen way to high. Been going out consistently for the pass few days and I still haven't seen one woman I would even be interested in or desire (Been to the theater at the mall so shouldn't be a shortage of women there). Its like automatically my mind goes to "I don't care" and I lose interest automatically. Btw, did want to thank you for the program as a whole though. My PTSD is pretty much gone and I have this kind of zen, peaceful attitude about me. Never thought with all the years I've suffered with this that I would finally be free of this. Now just need to keep running the program until I'm sure this attitude becomes the new MO and it doesn't come back. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Have at ye - 04-03-2018 (04-03-2018, 07:24 AM)Shannon Wrote:(04-01-2018, 08:00 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Between TID and 4 weeks of side B usage I went through 8 weeks of effortless no fap, within 4 days of Side A usage led to a nocturnal emission and a returned desire for porn and masturbation. Yeah, I've been noticing some bits of reversal resistance pertaining the above, every now and again, mostly while I was using ver. B (especially in the initial two weeks - and several days before it was published, heh). I did notice some of that in my initial week of ver. A, but much lessened in scope - as in, the various urges I know to be resistance-related are easier to control and pass faster than on ver. B. Interestingly enough, I did have an urge to switch back to ver. B once or twice while running ver. A, hahaha. Did not follow through with that, of course, but it's amusing none-the-less: and seems to be pointing to the fact that, yeah, continuing with ver. A is probably the way to go. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - findingme - 04-03-2018 Is the procrastination module present in version A of DMSI? I've seen men report its affects on B, but not on A. It's not mentioned specifically in the sales page either. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Determined - 04-03-2018 (04-03-2018, 08:08 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote:Quote:Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while. Lol, while 132 might seem like alot to your conscious mind, to your subconscious it isn't. |