(10-07-2016, 05:13 AM)Aventus45 Wrote: She was playful as usual and Id like to think I responded well the the playfulness but not the shittests. Everytime she I'm bantering with her, she is goes into a playful attack, normal for her, and I retaliate. One time, she's was playing and called me fat( kinda am) and I would rub her quad in a playful way and pinch her hamstrings. She was fine with the playfulness.

Later she in the train she decided not to use the pole literally next to her and decided to lean on my arm on the pole. First she leans on it with her breasts then after a turn , I raised my arm a but and she uses it as a head rest, placing her chin on my arm. Start really thinking about scheduling something with her.

(10-07-2016, 06:27 AM)Blink Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:13 AM)Aventus45 Wrote: She was playful as usual and Id like to think I responded well the the playfulness but not the shittests. Everytime she I'm bantering with her, she is goes into a playful attack, normal for her, and I retaliate. One time, she's was playing and called me fat( kinda am) and I would rub her quad in a playful way and pinch her hamstrings. She was fine with the playfulness.

Later she in the train she decided not to use the pole literally next to her and decided to lean on my arm on the pole. First she leans on it with her breasts then after a turn , I raised my arm a but and she uses it as a head rest, placing her chin on my arm. Start really thinking about scheduling something with her.

It sounds like she's your girlfriend already

(10-07-2016, 11:30 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: how do you know it's not sexual? A girl touching you could be touching you because she wants sex out of you. You may see girls as too angelic to have sex thoughts while touching you. They think of sex all the times like you do, they just don't do it as obviously as you do.

@Aventus45 you can relax more, when a girl react badly, ask yourself if it's not her who is crazy. It's like a kid almost, if she cries it doesn't mean you did something wrong, maybe she is just being girly and like to play you out with her intense emotions. Just like a kid crying doesn't mean much. It's just female behavior, they do it all the time; it doesn't mean much to them. It's just a high and low state. It's a game to them, they experiment with you, try to push youin every direction. If they take you out in the game, it's ok it's just a game, they don't expect you to be perfect either.
And if she expect you to be perfect she is too crazy for you, avoid her, she is not worth your time.

(10-07-2016, 07:08 PM)bits Wrote: I just now noticed that you had the voodoo graphic as your avatar, i just started playing with it but its quickly becoming one of my favorite

(10-07-2016, 07:22 PM)Aventus45 Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 07:08 PM)bits Wrote: I just now noticed that you had the voodoo graphic as your avatar, i just started playing with it but its quickly becoming one of my favorite

I havent been playing with it because im testing DMSI. I probably should try it out and see what happens with DMSI.

(10-07-2016, 09:46 PM)bits Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 07:22 PM)Aventus45 Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 07:08 PM)bits Wrote: I just now noticed that you had the voodoo graphic as your avatar, i just started playing with it but its quickly becoming one of my favorite

I havent been playing with it because im testing DMSI. I probably should try it out and see what happens with DMSI.

I think the 2 would go together great, voodoo feels:

75% social
20% sexual
5% crush/love/imprint

Socially for both men and women people trust you almost instantly and think you're really cool, there is a status element to it similar to wolf - high status but very approachable. People love to talk and talk to you on - not like glace's motormouth effect but actual meaningful conversation.

On women it has them very happy, giggly, upbeat, amps up emotions, destroys any "bitch shield", and more disinhibited to go with the flow. They look at you with dreamy eyes but it doesnt rule out one night stands the way some of the more serious relationship mones like xist would. My favorite thing though is that it either gets them texting you first or responding very quickly to texts. I guess thats the imprint at work.

Sexually there is arousal but its not a sledgehammer like other mixes but you can easily turn an interaction sexual. Women touch me a lot when I wear this, make sexual remarks, talk about their favorite positions, etc. With enough time and alcohol in the mix ive had a few women escalate on me. In the first few minutes you get the dreamy eyes but then after some time it turns into bedroom eyes.

The crush/love/imprint balance is my favorite, enough to generate interest but not enough to close off a one night stand or keeping things casual. The imprint is also nice, its not the serious fallout like a314 but its a little bit lighter than nude alpha which is perfect. Garry uses some herb in NA that has a "fear of loss" effect which makes women think you're their only shot at true love but with voodoo its more fun and playful. Since using it my phone gets blown up with flirty texts from women who have been exposed, nothing serious but just funny pictures/jokes/selfies/etc.

Its obvious im on their mind a lot but it hasnt closed off from keeping things casual and im getting invited out to way more events than before using it. The downside is that women do get more catty and competitive with each other but not in the way they do with heavier mixes like bad wolf.

For example ill be with a girl and her friends, she gets up to go to the bathroom or whatever and they immediately start getting close, touching me on the arm/shoulder, lean in closer, flirt harder, but as soon as the girl returns they pull themselves back and become more reserved for a minute or so - obvious they're trying to sneak their way in. Girls will also make comments about other women behind their back - never on their friends but other women who are around or staring you down. Little comments like (she used too much perfume, i can tell shes wearing some spanx to hide her gut, shes the type of girl who just uses guys to get drinks, etc)

Voodoo is great for guys who are introverted, lacking in social experience, or just starting to go out and approach and flirt with women. if I was to move to a new city and had to start a social circle from 0 voodoo would be my #1. The magnetic pull on this one is only rivaled by cohesion, you could go solo to a bar, sit at a stool, and soon enough find yourself surrounded by women hovering by. Open any of them and the good times roll from there.

(10-08-2016, 12:18 PM)maxx55 Wrote: In my experience, Voodoo brings me down regardless. It's difficult to stay between neutral to positive.