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RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - dweller94 - 06-02-2016 (06-02-2016, 06:56 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:(06-02-2016, 05:04 AM)Athena Wrote: UGH!!!! Although it would help target the GSF, wouldn't it disrupt the manifestation of her 'boyfriend' and possibly end up starting the whole process again if she started from scratch since she will be a significantly improved version of herself, I'll leave it to Shannon answer this one? RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - 4Kingdoms - 06-02-2016 (06-02-2016, 07:47 AM)dweller94 Wrote:(06-02-2016, 06:56 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:(06-02-2016, 05:04 AM)Athena Wrote: UGH!!!! Yes it would disrupt the whole process!! The point of using it is to get your "Perfect" Boyfriend/Girlfriend/Lover. You have to be okay inside first before you can get what you really want. Without EHPRA 2.0, Athena will get someone "Perfect" for "he only wants me for sex" vibration she is giving off. With EHPRA 2.0, Athena will get someone "Perfect" for the "He likes me for me" vibration she is giving off. It may be a step backwards, at least it is an easy fix. When I ran Manifest Your Perfect Sexual Lover, EHPRA 2.0 didn't exist... Athena has the opportunity to change the outcome of her "Perfect" Boyfriend, all because she has access to EHPRA 2.0!! RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - 4Kingdoms - 06-02-2016 well said... http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-4807-post-111976.html#pid111976 (06-01-2016, 01:43 PM)yeah! Wrote: I have read the recent updates in your journal CatMan. For what its worth I think you are making the right decision to run E2, particularly if you want a woman or women to like you for you and for you to like them for them. RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - cashmerecat - 06-02-2016 That's exactly what I did, I took a break and ran EHPRA 2.0 for 32 days. I'd totally recommend doing it. I had manifestations happening right after the break and going back to AYPB RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - 4Kingdoms - 06-02-2016 (06-02-2016, 08:47 AM)cashmerecat Wrote: That's exactly what I did, I took a break and ran EHPRA 2.0 for 32 days. I'd totally recommend doing it. I had manifestations happening right after the break and going back to AYPB @Athena You already own AYPB. No need to buy it again. And EHPRA 2.0 is a sub you will (I will) use from time to time. @cashmerecat Did you notice higher quality Men being manifested after using E2?? RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - apollolux - 06-02-2016 Withholding sex is absolutely the WRONG thing for a woman to do if a real man will accept being in a relationship with her; men are likely looking for sex first because it's a helluva lot easier to add connection and such to an already sexual relationship than it is to add sex to a non-sexual one. Also, I get the feeling you're playing these guys with your intentional indecisiveness, Athena. Abundance mindset is one thing, but you seem to be letting these guys believe something that's not true, which is that you're actually interested in them instead of letting them dangle as backups. RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - Shawn - 06-03-2016 Well, if you take sex out of the calculation it is going to be a friendship instead of a relationship, and that's not what you really want. In fact, you are not the only woman trying to get a relationship this way. I know another one in person. And you know what? She is attracting all the time men who just want to fuck her (or having some sort of alibi-relationship just to fuck her). So I think it's like, what you resists persists... RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - Athena - 06-03-2016 I appreciate what you, Mr Anderson, and apollolux are saying, but I'm not sure. Guys can also sex-zone us! But then again, I've had a couple of guys when we were just having sex suddenly propose and want babies and stuff and very serious about it so that CAN happen (not that I was even trying to get that I wasn't) I mean you might both be right, anyway I'm thinking over what you both said and what everyone has said in reply. And of course THANK you for replying Mr Anderson, apollolux, 4Kingdoms, cashmerecat & dweller94. And all the replies are very helpful!! OK I've actually taken on board some of this for starters at least and I've stopped doing this sub for now but started doing the Emotional Healing and Pain Relief subliminal. I might start a new journal about that. I think I've noticed a couple of little responses in me to that & it will be interesting to see if it affects this - my love life - or not but either way, I think it's a subliminal I can really benefit from. I think I agree with you with what most of you have said about pushing sex away so much and what you resist persists to the point that it COULD WELL be the reason I've been attracting guys who just want sex in the main. Mr Anderson, you're right I DON'T want just a friendship not a relationship, that's very true. Some people have that, sexless relationships but I'd really rather NOT be one of them!! In terms of do I change my stance on when to have sex, guys I don't know this is something I need to think about a lot more and thank you so much for all the perspectives. I'm bearing in mind all that's been said, and it is extremely helpful. Either way, I think the EHPR sounds like a good thing for me to focus on for various reasons. Cashmerecat, yes, I'm curious what changes you saw too, doing the EHPR and then returning to this - anyway what you said is encouraging and helpful!! Wow, again, sorry to sound gushy but thanks you guys for all your input, it's really helpful and appreciated! RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - risingwarrior - 06-03-2016 Athena, I know you've quit the sub, but we'd love to what kind of internal changes you went through after using this sub. RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - Athena - 06-03-2016 The first one, EHPRA 1, the free one. Huh, didn't realize there were two! When I eventually get my finances sorted out, yes I COULD get 2 but right now, 1 it is. RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - Athena - 06-04-2016 Inner Changes I've seen: Rising Warrior you've asked what sort of inner changes I've seen, I've thought about it and looked through this journal and these are the things: Less attachment to getting a boyfriend. I still REALLY REALLY want one but I'm not - it's more things like, if something goes wrong I've gutted but I'm bouncing back a bit quicker I think. And I used to feel down about not being in a romantic relationship and sad about it a lot more. Sometimes I still no but nowhere near what I used to. Sometimes I even feel more hopeful now. Part of that is due to the outer changes that happened & getting back out there after a year off. But this sub has also helped. Patterns: Being more aware that actually I've self-sabotaged with several guys in my life (at least) & realizing that there are some blocks there. I think it's when I think a guy is too good for me, it's a bit like what Shannon said but for me it's like "Oh, he's going to reject me, so I'll just reject him first, maybe that will hurt less." But it's been WAAAAY more subtle than that and come out as me saying things that put them off me, things that make it sound like i don't even like them. But just being more aware of the patterns there from before. Improve & ideas - I had a few ideas of what to put on my profile or things to work on. Self-love - Just a stronger urge to work on that and find ways to increase that NOT in a narcissistic way! - but in a healthy balanced way of course that includes a healthy respect for others too. Dreams - this is more an outer life thing but it's also the inner world. I had a dream I was changing my facebook status to "in a relationship" and I've had sex dreams too, I think. I might have had dreams when I just kissed but I forget now. (Erm, yes, it could also be my body protesting the not having sex thing! Ahem, moving on from that point!) Less jealousy & insecurity. Just in the sense that it used to be if I saw a guy I liked in a photo with a girl, I'd feel threatened, I'd think he was with her and so on. I mean like one example is when my ex boyfriend changed his profile photo to one of him next to a girl, in a pub together, quite close together looking cozy. It wasn't till I said to his best friend about (ex's) new girlfriend and bestie laughed and said, "She's just a friend and she doesn't even live in this country!" But compare THAT to me seeing photos of my online crush with two other girls AND seeing girls flirt on his instagram with him and me NOT feeling the usual jealousy, insecurity, threatened, not feeling like wow I've got competition - I mean, yes I DO but not feeling automatically like "What's the point, he's going to choose one of THEM, he'd NEVER pick me." This is what I have sometimes been like. I've felt like no use competing, she's better than me, let her have him. This time I feel like, OK, so other girls fancy him, they have great taste. He could still pick ME, and if he doesn't it's OK. Someone great will. And oh she's probably just a friend - - - without being naive about it, I must ad!! So those are the changes I've noticed on the inside. [/align][/u] RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - Shawn - 06-04-2016 (06-03-2016, 11:44 PM)Athena Wrote: The first one, EHPRA 1, the free one. As far you can afford you should switch to E2. It's a complete different level than EPRHA 1. RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - risingwarrior - 06-04-2016 Wow, thanks a lot for taking the time to write this out, Athena . I can attest to the fact that using AYPG, I've gone through similar changes, some less and some more. Amazing progress and bravo! The only reason we're getting the results, even though not manifestations, is we're taking the time to put the sub to use through it's intended time. RE: Athena's Attracting Perfect Boyfriend Journal - 4Kingdoms - 06-04-2016 (06-03-2016, 11:44 PM)Athena Wrote: The first one, EHPRA 1, the free one. SLAPS FOREHEAD WITH OPEN PALM!!! You didn't know about EHPRA 2.0?? (falls out of chair onto the floor) You are using the original http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/emotional-pain-relief-healing-aid/ Version 2, the version I and everyone else is recommending was released on 3/5/2016 http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7286-post-102474.html#pid102474 |