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RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-24-2020 (01-23-2020, 12:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:Quote:The curious thing that I don't remember reading about before (probably that I didn't have the eyes for it) is this 'manifestation' thing. So this makes a change to your 'aura' or thinking or whatever that actually works to 'draw' or 'magnetize' people that meet your ideals into your life? I can definitely see how this would be dangerous. e.g. A guy or gal is happily married in a normal marriage, and then this manifestation thing succeeds in bringing some celebrity that one idolizes into his/her life and open to romantic relationship. Do I have that right? If so, if I see that part working, it will likely be time to move on to a new subliminal. That would be downright spooky. Have any of the users seen this actually happen? Great answers, again, Shannon! Yes, I am enjoying the effects. However, I did notice when I started listening this am (8th day) I started to feel that it might be a good idea to take some days off. Like something inside my mind is kind of 'wound up' like a spring and it needs time to 'unwind'. It's not draining like normal stress, it is hard to put into words. I'll follow the 4 day off pattern, unless for some reason I am starting to really miss it on the 3rd day. I hope I have the will-power to not use it on day 4 during my 5 or 6 hour flight. I just like that energetic/libidinous feeling. I was thinking about using simple affirmation scripts I have during the break, would that interfere with the work of DMSI ASRB2? Want to experiment with the BWE, too-- is the 4 day off a good time for that? Seems like it would be since those only play with brain waves. Is it harmful to use PSE3v2 for an hour or two as romantic warm up for date night today? How about X124? Thanks! RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-24-2020 Hi All, (continuing journal of off-label usage of DMSI 3.3.2) Day 8: Spent the evening yesterday with my daughter, her husband and her little family. I didn't notice any difference in the way she and my granddaughters related to me so BIG thumbs up on this. Not affecting kids or family members. I didn't think it would because of the great care Shannon is putting into this, but I thought it worth commenting on to confirm he's done a good job from this angle. Wife didn't get much exposure yesterday, nor will she today. So we'll see about that. Tonight will be interesting, it's our evening reserved for romantic involvement. I always plan a little something, tell her what to wear and we have some fun. It usually is just a stay-at-home thing (we're frugal about not eating out much). She woke up a little cool and distant, could just be moods or having a lot on her mind due to vacation prep. She's made up for it since then. She has been fairly up, a little more bouncy and warm than usual. I'd say about 10% difference. No comments from her yet re whether she got any attention at the gym. May take a long time for her. I suspect she is a little resistant. Likes to claim she is completely uninterested in other men, never even notices good looking guys, etc.. If this thing breaks through that even a little that would be a good thing. Her emotions and sexual energy are a little too locked down and boxed in-- at least in ways like that. e.g. I'm open about what gals I think look good, but she will never admit it if I say, "Hey that guy is cute, right? He just looked at you" she blows it off most of the time instead of letting it be a positive boost to her self-image. I might do a couple extra loops today because tomorrow is the first day off. Will try to log anything interesting from tonight's activities. At this point, it looks like the sub is doing its underground work. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-25-2020 Hi All, (continuing log of DMSI 3.3.2 off-label usage) Day 8 (continued): Last night (date night) was wonderful. The sex was especially intense and felt amazing (this usually only happens when there's been an abstention of several days, but this was the fifth time in 7 days, so I think that's saying something.). I believe the part of the sub that is supposed to intensify sexual feelings is definitely working. After sex and before and during dinner, and evening activities I managed to loop DMSI continuously 3 times for her since she hadn't gotten any during the day. Unfortunately, that meant I was further exposed, but did not seem to affect me adversely. Day 9 (first day of the ASRB2 4-day break) This am was a tiny bit rough. She woke earlier than she likes and this put her in a bad mood, she woke me earlier than I like and not in the agreed-upon-way (if she's going to wake me it has to be by going down on me). She usually does this warmly, if not enthusiastically, but this am, not only did she not do it, when I reminded her she got all cranky. I don't think this is the sub, I think it may just be the stress of getting ready for vacation, but it IS unusual for a Saturday morning. She did get me off, but in a rather perfunctory, hurried/impatient manner (so a lot less fun than you'd think). She seemed to regret this afterward but said little. She wanted some, but didn't have the patience to warm up and go for it. She does have a lot on her mind, so again, don't think it's the sub, but in the interest of not just reporting the good stuff... there it is. Still feeling a little energized, though also feeling a little jangly-nerved, not too bad. I'm playing the Alpha BWE track in the background to try to center me and get ready for some creative work. It will be interesting to see if the 'aura' and 'snipers' are in place enough to make social interactions of the weekend different in any way. I'll keep an eye out, but won't overwhelm my subconscious with 'feeling like something should be different'. Speaking of my subconscious-- I've felt that my positive self-talk, when something ruffles my feathers for instance-- 'calm down, breathe-- it's not about you it's about them' is MUCH more effective than usual. My thinking about interpersonal interactions in the moment is a bit clearer and on point. Just an initial impression. I'll watch this one too. All-in-all, I definitely feel differently. So far almost entirely positive. I hope the effects continue, especially during the next 4 days. I love the increased libido, greater sense of the people around me, etc. It will also be interesting to see what a break does. There is sort of a self-propulsion about listening to the sub, not doing it leaves a spot I feel like I need to fill. I wonder if this means anything. There also seems to be benefit in saying to myself when I notice something different--like the sub might be working, "I like this feeling-- I'm opening up to it", "I do believe I AM getting sexier" and similar statements. Another feeling is one in my body of feeling like I really got benefit out of my workout yesterday. The 'pump' is stronger than usual and has persisted longer than normal. I wonder if there are some positive chemical changes prompted by the sub. No pronounced effects re my wife. I hope she starts to get and appreciate at least a little additional male attention. This would really boost her self-esteem and re-affirm that 'it's not just me-her husband' that thinks she's hot. It would also boost her comfort in taking care of herself, in general. So far still giving the DMSI 3.3.2 a thumbs up for the reasons I have chosen to use it. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-27-2020 Hi All (continuing saga of DMSI 3.3.2 off-label application), Day 3: Day 1 of ASRB2 was dull, nothing new to report. On Day 2 of ASRB 2 there were some interesting reactions. I was in a semi-formally-structured but very proper social environment. Two lovely young ladies in there late twenties/early thirties that I had met before seemed to be different around me. They looked at me differently, one with a "what's different about him" wide-eyed sort of look. The other with warm slightly longer glances. When I came up to them I shook hands with the first and then naturally extended my hand to the second, she said "I want a hug" this much was appropriate in the situation and not that unusual. She was quite cute and feminine all wrapped up in a big winter coat and scarf so there was nothing overtly sexual there. But the boldness to ask for even a minor gesture of affection was new. After that upon departing the group, the both girls wanted their hugs goodbye. Is this the sort of thing that we should expect? I note that I have a very clear mental picture of the two of them standing there. Unusually clear memory of the encounter. (I had many social encounters that morning but that one keeps coming back to me). Is that part of the programming? It was a good interaction and warmer and more productive than we had had previously. So that much was very good. Ladies (and men to some degree) also seemed to laugh louder at my jokes and in general be warmer. One gal in particular kept looking at me with big eyes from across the room, like "who is this guy", admiring sort of look. Sniper? If so, this stuff has potential of being very powerful. Looks like this DMSI thing seems to work best on people that are already socially confident and relaxed based on the reports I've read. Those of us with some self-confidence and social facility get reactions sooner. That is, if these indeed are reactions not my imagination/placebo effect. The only thing interesting from Day 2 I forgot to mention was that the afternoon romantic encounter with the wife was unusually quick and intense and very satisfying for both even though we were both not so sure it was a good idea given how much we had to do to get ready for company and our vacation. Some aspect of this program seems to have very positive application to the couple relationship. I have friends and clients I would encourage to purchase a program that did for them and their wife what this does for men and women in general. Tomorrow I fly to our deserted island (lol) and will be in airports, restaurants and airplanes. It will be interesting. Will report again in a couple days. Tomorrow is day 4 of the break. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 01-27-2020 Quote:I was thinking about using simple affirmation scripts I have during the break, would that interfere with the work of DMSI ASRB2? Mixing mind programming techniques is usually a bad idea unless you have personally authored all scripts and know for sure that they will not and cannot conflict. I advise against doing that, as the results can be unpredictable and if there is conflict, will usually be negative. Quote:Want to experiment with the BWE, too-- is the 4 day off a good time for that? Seems like it would be since those only play with brain waves. DMSI uses and relies heavily on its own internal state shifting technology. Using BWE will conflict with that and damage your results. Quote:Is it harmful to use PSE3v2 for an hour or two as romantic warm up for date night today? PS3v2 can be used with minimal impact if you only use it 1 or 2 hours per week, max. Quote:How about X124? X124 can be used as desired, since it has no script. Quote:I'm playing the Alpha BWE track in the background to try to center me and get ready for some creative work. Unless you are using isochronic tones or using my BWE tracks, you need headphones to get the BWE effects. Even with my BWE or isochronic tones, headphones are better than not. Quote:I wonder if there are some positive chemical changes prompted by the sub. My programs do try to adjust body chemistry to better achieve the goals of the program. Quote:One gal in particular kept looking at me with big eyes from across the room, like "who is this guy", admiring sort of look. Sniper? If so, this stuff has potential of being very powerful. Very possibly the sniper, or the standard aura. Most people can feel the energy movement when they snipe someone, but you may not be able to. The standard aura DMSI creates is pretty impressive, if you are sufficiently sensitive to be aware of it. Quote:Looks like this DMSI thing seems to work best on people that are already socially confident and relaxed based on the reports I've read. Those of us with some self-confidence and social facility get reactions sooner. That is, if these indeed are reactions not my imagination/placebo effect. How would you explain all of the results you have gotten with placebo effect? Some of it could conceivably be placebo, but your wife doesn't know she's being exposed, does she? Quote:The only thing interesting from Day 2 I forgot to mention was that the afternoon romantic encounter with the wife was unusually quick and intense and very satisfying for both even though we were both not so sure it was a good idea given how much we had to do to get ready for company and our vacation. Some aspect of this program seems to have very positive application to the couple relationship. I have friends and clients I would encourage to purchase a program that did for them and their wife what this does for men and women in general. When I have created a version specifically for couples, I'll be glad to have you recommend it. Right now, I don't feel comfortable with it being recommended for a usage that may result in problems. The couples version will have the manifestation disabled and focus you on your SO only. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-27-2020 (01-27-2020, 10:37 AM)Shannon Wrote:Quote:I was thinking about using simple affirmation scripts I have during the break, would that interfere with the work of DMSI ASRB2? Thanks Shannon! I'll avoid experimenting with BWE then. Thanks for reminder/clarification that it's only effective through headphones. I was just checking to make sure the the results I'm seeing are, indeed, the sort you would anticipate based on my situation. My wife is somewhat aware. I let her know we are playing subliminals that are intended to help create a romantic environment. The exact nature of them would be more than she actually wants to know. I geek out on this sort of thing and she doesn't so much. Too much detail = suspicion. In fact, now and then she'll start to ask "so what are these subliminals saying anyway, aren't you afraid to let them influence you without knowing everything they say?" As I begin to answer, she loses interest and I never get to the point where I'm saying anything substantial. She just trusts me enough that it's not really an issue for her. I can tell she's enjoying the effects and she does kind of like the mystery. I do many things to promote a little mystery to good effect. The simple subliminals I'm thinking of using do have suggestions, but since they are of a largely sensual/sexual nature I have a hard time seeing how they would contradict anything in DMSI. I'll be careful. Also, I'll use PSE sparingly, if at all. X124 to enhance the moment. While I'm here... 2 questions: 1) re X124, is there a recommended amount of time to play this, or could it play all day for that matter to good effect? (I don't mean in combo with DMSI, just in general) 2) PSE3v2 -- (when not using DMSI) does this work well as a standard sub where you play it 8 hours a day, for a period of weeks/months? What effects would be expected if used that way? RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 01-28-2020 Quote:1) re X124, is there a recommended amount of time to play this, or could it play all day for that matter to good effect? (I don't mean in combo with DMSI, just in general) X124 has a response curve that looks like a bell curve in most cases, with the axes being time on the bottom and response intensity on the left. In some people, it will be scrunched up on the left, and in some people the response will remain high for a long time and only slowly peter out. But it depends on the individual. Eventually, the subconscious will get bored with it and respond less and less. This may happen in an hour or a month, depends on the person. I suggest you try this. Expose her to one loop and see what happens. Then another day 2, and then another day three and so on. In most cases, you won't get worthwhile ROI more than 4 to 6 loops in a single day. Quote:2) PSE3v2 -- (when not using DMSI) does this work well as a standard sub where you play it 8 hours a day, for a period of weeks/months? What effects would be expected if used that way? PSEv2 can be used in two ways. It can be used as I describe X124 above, a number of loops for short term in the moment interest, and it can be used as a long term reprogramming subliminal. The latter use was originally aimed at helping women recover their sex drives after giving birth. Different personalities respond in different ways when it is used this way. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-30-2020 (01-28-2020, 03:01 PM)Shannon Wrote:Quote:1) re X124, is there a recommended amount of time to play this, or could it play all day for that matter to good effect? (I don't mean in combo with DMSI, just in general) Great explanation, as usual, Shannon! Bell-curve analogy is very helpful and explanatory of my experience. Thanks! RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 01-30-2020 Hi All, (ongoing off-label DMSI 3.3.2 experimentc...) Day 11 (3rd of ASRB2) Only one interesting interaction occurred to comment on. I was seeing an old guy friend to his car in front of my house saying goodbye. As we were chatting, a young lady came by pushing a stroller. She smiled from a distance and began chatting with me animatedly yet almost embarrassedly. Trying for eye contact. She was kind of pretty, but hard to tell the way she was dressed and I wouldn't necessarily describe her as my 'type' or ideal. Some 20 or 30 steps behind her was her young slacker-looking husband staring at his phone. Probably result of the aura and her susceptibiiy because she appears to be with a loser. Day 12 (4th of ASRB2) Travel day, cars, airports, airplanes. Security was light and friendly. Our waitress at the busy airport restaurant (at 5:30am) was warm and all smiles. Nothing much on the airplane. I usually find stewardesses friendly to me but these pretty much ignored me but were not impolite. Upon arriving to our small tropical island destination, we picked up the rental car, did our shopping, and headed for our cottage on the ocean. While on the way out to our cottage (40 minute drive from town), my wife commented how everyone seemed to be very warm and friendly, going out of their way to be helpful to her and me. This is not usual in this small community where tourists are seen as outsiders, but we've been coming here over 10 years so we know not to behave as tourists, though we probably had 'the look' having just got off the plane. This is the first indication that I have that she is noticing the difference. Day 13 (Day 1 of second set of 8 days of listening to DMSI 3.3.2) Day early am pre-dawn, she started me off with some rather nice oral. Had some tensions at one point during the day but they resolved quickly. When we had our afternoon 'delight' she got off to a slow start due to some muscle cramp in her leg, but once we got going she quickly had one massive O followed quickly by another massive one a minute later. This is further sign that something is going on with eliminating fears and/or opening sexual channels previously closed. We're now on Day 14.2 will post about today tomorrow, so far nothing of interest. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-03-2020 Hi All, (continuing log of DMSI 3.3.2 off-label use) (second loop of 8 days) Day 2 continued Nothing much to report but the very intense intimate encounters continue. We're getting along great and fairly energized. Day 3 (friday) Much like previous days, nothing stands out. I've fallen into a rhythm of playing the sub in the background during the day and trying to listen to it at least once on headphones (then I use the hybrid version all other times I use the silent version alternating between the flac and the mp3 played on my DOSS box, a bluetooth speaker--curious as to whether this close set pair of speakers in one device is a good appoach) Day 4 (Saturday) Some interesting stuff happened today. Went to town about 18 miles across a long winding road to have a burger with some friends. Listened to the sub on the way on the DOSS box. Shopped at the farmer's market not much happened but there was one young lady (about 20?) that I purchased a couple things from, she kept looking me in the eye and couldn't make simple change (I spent $7 and gave her a $20 bill). She was cute but young. Did the aura overwhelm her? Later while having lunch with our friends (they are 10 years older than us) a group sat near us. One of the 3 women in the group sat so she could look over at me and kept giving me long lingering looks but not in a particularly sexy manner, maybe a tad sultry, keeping her legs slightly parted. Later she went to the restroom walking past me. I ignored her. After she came out she stood with her back to me and made a show of re-tying her sarong-like bathing suit cover up. Then she sat down and didn't look at me as much and closed her legs. She might have gotten the sniper or the aura. Wife continues to heat up. The intimate moments become more intense. So I'm pleased with the effects. Day 5 (Sunday) Not much to report. But managed to have a bj and very cuddly times on the couch in the evening. She wanted my hand on her alot. Very fun and gets more and more interesting. Day 6 (Monday, very early in the am) Felt like there was sexual electricity throughout the night. My lower back started hurting so bad during the night that I couldn't sleep without a pain med (this happens periodically) and when I got the med, she and I were both wide awake at 4am and decided to make out. It was passionate. Ended up with intense intimacy with her coming very hard very quickly. We went back to sleep. The sub is heightening our sexual awareness of each other and our responsiveness to one another as well. VERY cool and just what I hoped for. I wonder if setting one's intention as one uses the sub makes a difference? RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - Shannon - 02-03-2020 Quote:After she came out she stood with her back to me and made a show of re-tying her sarong-like bathing suit cover up. Then she sat down and didn't look at me as much and closed her legs. When a woman is aroused and attracted, she will respond, although what seems "obvious as hell" to her may be very subtle to a male point of view. Spreading her legs further than normal, especially when they are opened specifically in your direction, and making specific eye contact repeatedly is her way of being "obvious as hell" (female obvious) that she is open to and wants sex with whomever she is doing this for and towards. Age, experiences and personality will dictate how obvious these signals are, and how long they are given before she - seeing no appropriate response to indicate he is noticing and receptive to her "obvious sexual advances" - will give up, concluding that he is either clueless or uninterested in return. Quote:I wonder if setting one's intention as one uses the sub makes a difference? Theoretically it is possible to consciously trigger and direct the standard sniper, but not many have reported success in doing so. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-06-2020 Hi All, (continued saga of off-label DMSI 3.3.2 application) [Second loop of 8 days] Day 7 & 8 were relatively uninteresting. The wife is very attractive to me. Just love looking at her and get that zingy feeling inside. Very cool. Also, on one of the past couple days she looked over at me and said "You are very attractive". This may not seem like much but I can count on one hand the number of times my wife has complimented me un-provoked in the 40 years of our marriage. She is noticing me more also. Continued the background listening with her and one loop of hybrid on the headphones. Before our daily 'intimate time' I play 15-30 minutes of PSE3v2 and then when we begin X124. Note that I had done this for a couple months before starting DMSI 3.3.2. The one thing I can report over these last 3 days of our romantic getaway, is that she has become consistently multi-orgasmic and more affectionate in that she initiates kisses and touches and affectionate gestures at least 100% more often than she has previously. I'm liking this alot and it is consistent with my hopes for how DMSI would work for us. Spent very little time in public situations this week so nothing interesting there. Day 1 (of 2nd round of ASRB2) Kind of wish we could listen to more today. I have really enjoyed sitting by the ocean, gazing, dozing and listening to the hybrid version over the headphones. Am sorely tempted to do this again today, but will try to do something different instead. Next social contact will be tomorrow night, but they'r old friends and 10 years older than us, so I do not expect anything interesting. So far am liking the effects as much as I hoped I would, maybe more. I'm excited to explore some of Shannon's other offerings. OED and the Testosterone Maximizer for me and the Weight loss one for my wife, (I think she's fine, but she wants to drop a couple pounds and inches to fit better into her clothes, which I understand). However, I'll continue to run this 8-4 day cycle of DMSI 3.3.2 for a few more cycles until I feel like it has really taken hold. I'll know this better after a couple weeks back at home in the normal daily life. Here-- it has been great! Hoping we see some of the 'bloom' I hear about during our 4 day break. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-07-2020 Hi All (ongoing off-label use of DMSI 3.3.2) Day 1 of ASRB2 2nd time (later in the day) Not much to report, though we had a nice, long, fun intimate time around a sexy game we played. Later in the evening though, she exclaimed (and I wish I could remember her words) something to the effect, "I love how I'm feeling sexier and more exciting-- you make me this way and I love it". Honestly, she has been 20-30% sexier and more exciting. So more good news. Day 2 She's so relaxed now about being sexy and naked, I'm loving it. She spends half the day (washing dishes, cleaning) without clothes. When not, she's wearing something very provocative (I've bought her lots of clothes for this purpose). So far still very pleased. Friends over tonight, we'll do a little shopping. So we'll see if I notice any other effects. Btw may be unrelated but we've been very disciplined about amount and quality of food we eat and loving it. It's not a pain. ... shopping was a little interesting. The lady behind the counter was very warm and interested in us. This is unusual because there is a strong anti-tourist sentiment on the island. It appears she just found us nice and interesting. Aura at work? I think so. RE: DMSI 3.3.2, OED, X124, PSEv3, etc. - rono - 02-08-2020 ...quick update Day 2 of ASRB2 second round - Nothing interesting. Sexual intensity has seemed to diminish from the last couple days ago. Not unusual for intensity to surge and lag so can't draw any conclusions. I do miss the intensity we were feeling toward the end of the last 8 day cycle. Looking forward to starting up the DMSI 3.3.2 again. Today is Day 3, not expecting much but we'll see. Not planning on seeing anyone except each other . She was a little more daring than typical this am. Went shelling on the private beach topless, then actually came up the stairs to the house in sight of the road. When a car came by she smoothly slipped inside. No panic. I see this as progress. She does like that she's loosening up and has told me so a couple times. She wishes she could be this relaxed 'all the time' |