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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-04-2020
(01-03-2020, 04:17 PM)K-Train Wrote: Question Shannon. You've acknowledged that from here on out you will be focused here on out on getting DMSI to work for the majority and ignore outliers. With this in mind:
To be more specific, I will be working to get it working for those who are actually open to and genuinely wanting to and trying to achieving the goals. CatMan represents a very small minority who would rather entertain themselves with the song and dance of tragically pretending to try and loudly and intentionally failing and trying to bait me to jump through either the same hoops over and over again, or new hoops if and when I do make progress. He doesn't really want the end goal, consciously or otherwise. He wants what he has, which is why he still has (if he is to be believed) exactly what he started with from Day 1 using DMSI, and has either reversed all progress he did make, or is the most successful troll we have seen yet. CatMan represents one of an extremely few ways that exist to perpetually defeat subliminals, and that is perpetually self deluding. When you change not just the goal posts, but history and reality itself to suit your whims and achieve your goals, you can deny and ignore anything. Forever, apparently. So I decided that people like him are welcome to what they have and what they wanted in the first place, and I will focus on the people who are genuinely wanting to and trying to achieve the goals and just stuck in fear. The rest can enjoy dry dock. I don't have the time, energy or interest in playing stupid games anymore. All of that has been used up.
Quote:1. In laymen's terms what characteristics does a user/customer have that make you say "I want to help, but I can't/may not be able to"?
If you are a customer, I want to help. Ultimately, if my help invariably meets with excuses, reasons why you can't, ignoring reality, making up reality to suit your whims, revisionist history, self deception to prevent yourself from making progress and a general insistence on failure at any cost, then I don't have time for you. Enjoy your failure. I have things to actually accomplish.
Quote:2. What about users like myself who have achieved designed goal at least once or twice but who have had sporadic results with DMSI? Do we make up the majority or the minority?
If you have used DMSI and achieved ANY level of success, then you pass Test #1. If you have achieved ANY level of success and you acknowledge it, you pass Test #2. If you are genuinely trying consciously to achieve the goals of the program, and genuinely wanting to achieve the goals of the program, then you pass Test #3. I am ready and willing to help those who genuinely want to achieve the goals of the program. But some people want to listen to themselves complain, be right, try to resist to prove they're somehow better or stronger than me, take pride in resisting successfully, passively aggressively self sabotage to "win", lie to themselves and likely others about what is actually happening so they can hide from success, etc. Those people genuinely want what they have. They can have it.
Quote:3. From the first inception of DMSI you've stated there is a % of users you want to see achieve design goal within a certain amount of time. How will you determine/calculate this percentage? Is it based soley on forum feedback or from other sources?
It is not going to be calculated. It is set as an ambitious goal, and I will do my best to achieve it before I stop. If I do achieve it, I will be motivated to push for more, and I will keep going until I can't.
Quote:Thanks for your time. Also, FYI I am purchasing MHS 5.75G for myself to help heal my ears. I've had good results from using just MHS 3G to help with them (tinnitus) in the past so I look forward to seeing what the new version does for them.
I am very interested in feedback on if and how it affects tinnitus.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 09:19 AM)Hatman Wrote: Hi @Shannon, I'm sorry if this was asked before, but where do you think the next iterations of USLM and UMS are in the order of programs to make?
Right now, I don't know. I recently found what I believe is a way to make USLM 4.2 work and finally improve on V3, but right now I most likely can't build it. I am very interested in getting MIR 3.0 built, and that I also can't work on for a while. So in the mean time, I will likely be trying to build focus fire subs - such as Allergy Relief Aid, which will be in process soon (if the models cooperate). Once I see the models stabilize, I will have a number of programs to choose from, but MIR 3.0 is a very high priority target right now. It is a huge upgrade to 2.1, and will be much more powerful, effective and useful, and it will also enable me to build the Trifecta (GPR-MHS-MIR) that will be aimed at helping people with complex challenges like Lyme disease and the associated co-infections.
MIR is also extremely important because we are progressively seeing full spectrum antibiotic resistant pathogens pop up that are increasingly resistant to everything we have. The Powers That Be want to insist we only use their antibiotics because they can make money on them, while knowingly prescribing them incorrectly (they don't work for flu because flu is viral, but are regularly prescribed for flu just because the doctors "don't want to let patients go empty handed", as one of them told me). And then you have the patients using them incorrectly, not finishing the full course of antibiotics, which breeds the antibiotic resistance, plus doctors not always using the right one or specifying that it be used long enough, which helps in the same direction.
But Big Pharma can't even come up with antibiotics fast enough, and the antibiotics they do come up with are frequently very hard on the body and the microbiome, which may be just as bad. And they don't want us using silver, holy cow no, that might cost them profits too!
So it is my hope that MIR will eventually be able to provide us a fallback option in the case that we finally have these pathogens evolve faster than we can keep up with for antibiotics - which I am willing to bet there is a 100% chance will eventually happen, and I would say it will happen within the next 20 years, if not the next 10 or less. In the absence of antibiotics that work, having some way to get the immune system to function at it's fullest potential and capacity is potentially critical for the survival of millions or billions of people, or possibly even the entire human race.
Getting MIR to it's fullest potential will take me time and more versions, and the sooner we get on that, the better.
Quote:Also, I thought you might find this information interesting when it comes to producing anti aging subliminals. It looks like the epigenome plays a massive role in aging. David Sinclair has also been on the Joe Rogan podcast a couple of times, but I've yet to watch those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRt7LjqJ45k
Thanks!
Thanks for the link.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 01-04-2020
Shannon's Quote from His " Closed" Journal : "
This upsets me HUGELY, although it;s right in line with what I would think this cycle would bring, because this cycle seems to bring disruption, inability to focus and unexpected circumstances that force me off my path for reasons I can't control. And we are in the thick of it right now - it's almost at maximum impact, and peaks on the 11th"
Me:
If its any consolation Shannon,I am going thru the same kind of shit,minus da physical "Flu", emotionally and energetically- thats another story ! However IM defintely going thru the same kinds of thing and I Know a ton of others who are as well in thier own ways. thats entirely a different matter- the grinder going thru it....2020 however over all is one hella powerful Year with much prosperity and achievement ahead. honor and respect.Keith
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Hatman - 01-04-2020
Thanks for the response @Shannon. It's unfortunate how short sighted these corporations have become in the name of profit. You are doing great work. This cycle needs to go away already lol
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 10:43 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon's Quote from His " Closed" Journal : "
This upsets me HUGELY, although it;s right in line with what I would think this cycle would bring, because this cycle seems to bring disruption, inability to focus and unexpected circumstances that force me off my path for reasons I can't control. And we are in the thick of it right now - it's almost at maximum impact, and peaks on the 11th"
If its any consultation Shannon,I am going thru the same kind of shit,minus da physical "Flu", emotionally and energetically- thats another story ! However IM defintely going thru the same kinds of thing and I Know a ton of others who are as well in thier own ways. thats entirely a different matter- the grinder going thru it....2020 however over all is one hella powerful Year with much prosperity and achievement ahead. honor and respect.Keith
2020 is going to be, overall, an amazingly good year. I have been waiting impatiently for 2020 since the whole first cycle started it's BS. But the first part of 2020, Jan-Feb-March and possibly April, will have the potential to be equal parts challenging and positive. If you are being affected by this cycle, this timeline is correct for me, and may be different for you. But chin up, we are going to see some amazing stuff happen in 2020 and beyond.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 11:59 AM)Hatman Wrote: Thanks for the response @Shannon. It's unfortunate how short sighted these corporations have become in the name of profit. You are doing great work. This cycle needs to go away already lol
Would that I had the power to fast forward through it. :
But to all things, there is a season, and a reason, as they say. The timing is exactly what it needs to be, whether we like it or not, or understand it or not.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 01-04-2020
Great...this is EXACTLY what I didn't want and told you about earlier. Why you felt the need to restart this by bringing up my name right after the big thing in my thread, is beyond me. I knew this would happen. I said it was done, and wanted no part of anything else. This really annoys me...
Here we go again, I guess...since he responded as I predicted, as I was worried about. So, thanks Ktrain...
I report my experience, Shannon. As we are told to as a tester. No more, no less. I'm not trying to "bait" you into anything, this is ridiculous. As many know, I hate posting here with all the stupid arguments that happen over time, I hardly EVER post nowadays (I took like 6 weeks to reply to your post, clearly I don't like posting and have other things to do with my time than "troll"...)...so calling me a "troll" now because my reports don't please you or something is very irritating and insulting to me. I've supported you for years! Spent a LOT of money here, supporting IML faithfully! I was simply answering your questions, that's it! YOU said my previous words showed things to you that you wanted to fix in the program. So you asked me questions to get the info you wanted to make V3.3.3. So I tried to help you and answer them as detailed as I can as I always try to do! Again, as I've said often before...I regret posting ANYTHING due to all of this...nothing but aggravation for reporting as a tester is "supposed" to do...yet again.
"intentionally failing", also not the case at all, baseless. For example, I just wrote about how I worked out the difficult logistics to get myself in front of a girl I knew from 5 years ago that I liked, before subs, to test myself and the sub with her. If THAT doesn't show intention to succeed to you, then I don't know WHAT WILL! And oh now I "don't consciously want the goal" somehow and I also now have the godlike power to "change history and reality itself"? That's flattering, but hardly the case. I'm not a god, I'm just a human being. And if I had such powers to change history and reality, don't you think I'd have fixed any issues with women and beyond and be the richest man ever or something? Haha! I don't think you meant that literally of course, I think... I'm having a joke with you on that. Plus, as is constantly noted...I'm hardly the only one not getting design goal. Why I'm always singled out negatively, is a mystery to me.
Seriously...Shannon...please...take a deep breath and relax. I wish someday I find out what the problem you have with me is... Look man, I'm just one user here who has been loyal to this program from day one. Hell, I bought it months BEFORE I could use it, I was running E2 at the time. I bought it immediately upon release to support you and the program and commit to it.
Why I constantly get this is a mystery to me. Is it that you worry the posts will hurt DMSI sales? I'm sorry, I don't mean to hurt anyone with the posts, I can see that logic though if so. Everyone knows it's a test program though, so it's to be expected it will be a WiP
. But, in the interests of some kind of peace offering ...would you like me to be a private tester for it? Only email you specifically any updates or answers to your questions? I'd be open to that, I'd probably like it since the forum thing is something I tend to dislike due to past arguments and crap on it I've often bemoaned (the opposite of what a "troll" is...). Whatever you want, whatever will help the program and IML. I would say public posts are best, but...that's caused issues between us so far that I feel bad about, and don't wish to continue!In the end, I think and want the best for IML, and you in particular, Shannon. I truly hope these words reach you, and this quashes any "thing" that was dragged back to life earlier that was over and done with already...(thanks again for that...)...
Have a wonderful night, hope you recover from your bug you wrote about soon!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - K-Train - 01-04-2020
As stated earlier Catman, your name was brought up because you presented a good point which I addressed in the previous post. In addition, I wanted to pick Shannon's brain to see exactly what he was looking for in his testers. Why you ask? Because there are others on this forum (and you and I know who they are) who are having similar issues as you (as far as the lack of results go). My primary concern when Shannon said what he said in your journal was the following "Damn, so Shannon is done helping Catman and is focusing on the majority. Well wait, who are the majority? Who is it that he's going to focus on from here on out? What differentiates those he's willing to help from those who he is not?"
Those are important questions because just like you Catman, I would look across the forum, read journals of DMSI users and looked at many things but always had these questions in mind: Is this person achieving design goal? Did they ever achieve design goal? If the answer to any of those questions was "Yes" then I wanted to see how much and how often. The answer many times (but certainly not ALL the time) was either "NO" or "Yes, but not often/rarely". That's why the question of "who is the majority" bugged me because the "majority" of people around the forum (as I've stated before and as Shannon is aware of now) fall into one of three categories:
1.) Have NEVER achieved design goal for DMSI
2.)Have achieved design goal but only once or twice or sporadically (which is where I fall)
3.)Are experiencing some results via DMSI but not design goal
Shannon's answers clear up a lot and I thank him for taking the time to answer. I think it's also healthy that he clearly stated what he was looking for in testers and what his limits are on who he is willing to help. I publicly acknowledge that the question could have been posed without mentioning your name specifically and as you have seen Catman, the post in question has been edited. I apologize for that but I will not keep apologizing.
If I truly gave zero f*cks about you Catman and thought little of you I would have left that post where it was because in the end I know that I personally was NOT trying to attack you and believed that my reasons for bringing you up were just. I do NOT/did NOT agree with everything you are saying or have said about DMSI but I DID/DO respect you for being willing to report what you see and am grateful that up to this point you have contributed to the development of DMSI which has gifted us kick ass products. And I showed that gratitude and respect by removing your name earlier. If you want to continue to say things like "thanks again..." or "thanks Ktrain" and throw shade after the fact, that's cool man.
Good luck to you and if you decide to avoid the forums and go off do you that's cool. Be safe man and thanks again for helping with DMSI development as a tester.
EDIT: Forgot to mention this as well: there HAVE been people who achieved design goal with DMSI and also did so consistently and executed. So DMSI does indeed "work". We're simply waiting on Shannon to crack the fear code which I'm sure he will or at minimum will come close.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 01-04-2020
Hi, I don't want to drag things out further.
I was just worried about another "thing" with Shannon. I wanted to take a step back after all that before, I didn't want to get into trouble in a community I am grateful to be a part of, which was possible if a "thing" happened with him again. I didn't want to be a part of anything with him, especially this close to the recent issue earlier, and I know nobody wanted to read it all I'm sure...just wanted a low profile bro. Forum fights and stuff really bug me is all. I've still been miffed since the last exchanges in my thread, and wanted peace, so I was cringing earlier when I saw the above stuff.
I'm done with it, I'm sure Shannon will be too.
I hope you and everyone else reading, have an awesome 2020.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - AlphaRomeo - 01-04-2020
Hi Shannon,
Sorry to read about the flu on your journal delaying your progress. I wish you fast recovery, and send healing energy to you and your gf. Quick question, how long is MHS 5.75g? (ASRB seems to be 15:30 so Im quessing its 45min or 90min, but not sure which one).
I was on for second long term run of MLS (after 3 months of UMS) but got "hit" by unfortunate circumstance that may need physical healing on my body and increased immune system. So I will probably purchase MHS, but want to plan ahead regarding the listening time.I hope Im not in same cycle as you...well, MOST other things are going pretty much better than in a long time.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-04-2020
CatMan, just so you know, I'm not even going to bother finish reading your post. I see that you're only going to go back and misinterpret what I said and play the poor me victim card again. You and I know the truth, even if not everyone here has seen the show you put on for years now, or realizes what it is.
You need to stop lying to yourself, first and foremost. Until that happens, you will stay in dry dock, no matter what I or anyone else does, including you. When you're ready to make the change, then something might move for you. Until then, I have things to accomplish that don't include wasting my time while you spend 100% of your energy, effort and intelligence finding ways to stay where you are and fail.
That's the cold hard truth. Maybe someday you'll get past those self lies and start seeing things the way they really are. I hope so, because even as pissed as I am, I somehow still don't want to see you rot in dry dock. But it's not my problem anymore. It's your responsibility to stop fighting tooth and nail to fail and lie to yourself and make up what happened in the past, because you don't want to achieve the goal. So either get to it, or deal with the consequences. Your choice.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 01-04-2020
(01-04-2020, 07:42 PM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: Hi Shannon,
Sorry to read about the flu on your journal delaying your progress. I wish you fast recovery, and send healing energy to you and your gf. Quick question, how long is MHS 5.75g? (ASRB seems to be 15:30 so Im quessing its 45min or 90min, but not sure which one).
I was on for second long term run of MLS (after 3 months of UMS) but got "hit" by unfortunate circumstance that may need physical healing on my body and increased immune system. So I will probably purchase MHS, but want to plan ahead regarding the listening time.I hope Im not in same cycle as you...well, MOST other things are going pretty much better than in a long time.
It's 90 minutes per loop.
Most people won't be affected by this cycle the way I am, so I doubt you have anything to worry about.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - CatMan - 01-04-2020
I'm actually genuinely confused by the post attitude lately. I truly mean that.
I tried to be diplomatic (and forum rule abiding) in response to things said about me. Wasn't easy.
People can search my posts on my profile if they wish, and determine my intentions for themselves. Other than my old OLD thread that was graveyard'd, because we started doing new journals for each program for forum cleanliness, my posts should be still viewable I think mostly. I'm an open book, and have been for years here. Often...obviously...to my own detriment, as I truly hate forum fights and arguments etc. They really bother me for a long time after to be honest...probably because this community means a great deal to me.
I look forward to what 2020 brings for subs.
Thanks for your concern about my issues.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Voytek - 01-05-2020
Is there any way to get the version of DMSI which was issued in 2018 just before the version issued in the beginning of 2019?