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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - maxx55 - 07-22-2016

Trust me, I'll probably use MIR in the future. It has permanent long term programming right? Due to the nature of my career, an invincible immune system would be helpful.

I just simply don't know what to suggest. It was a lot easier to think of things for DMSI. For MIR, I just want the end result to be a permanent invincible immune system (or as close as possible). If that could be done in 6 months of usage, that'd be golden!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Natious - 07-22-2016

Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 07-22-2016

(07-22-2016, 12:13 PM)Natious Wrote: Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.

I'm one of those people.

Normally, I turn off all subliminals while doing my daily mental alchemy rituals, but a few days ago, I left AM6 (ultrasonic) running by accident.

There's a particular ritual that allows me to (and I'll explain this the best way I can), detach from my surroundings and direct my focus inward. From there, I'll monitor and observe my internal chatter and write down the more questionable lines. Imagine having a directional microphone and pointing it directly at your internal voice.

I kept "hearing" and writing down this anomalous thought -- it "sounded" like someone screaming in the distance. Tortured. Very painful. And it kept repeating the same thing over: "No, I won't do it." As I began to focus on that "voice," I became angrier and angrier until I was absolutely enraged. And suddenly, I realized what was going on. Hopped up, turned off AM6. The voice didn't go away immediately -- my guess is that the sub was still processing. However, about 5-6 hours later, I began to feel euphoric. Voice was gone.

Further tests yielded the following results: Ultrasonic exposure leads to anger / rage based resistance. Pissed off at the world. Wanna put my hand through a wall. Masked resistance is of the depressive kind. Down and out. No self-confidence.

I will say this: In my AOSI / DMSI tests, even on ultrasonic, I never experienced any anger / rage based resistance. Just depressive -- which, in my opinion, is my subconscious throwing up signs of fear rather than just stonewalling the sub.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - heavysm - 07-22-2016

(07-19-2016, 06:29 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-19-2016, 06:18 PM)THolt Wrote:
(07-19-2016, 06:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-19-2016, 04:23 PM)THolt Wrote: Shannon,
So how powerful is this P3 technology or is it one of these Top Secret techs?

Care to declassify it for us?
Or you could just email it to me
(Subtle political reference) WinkRolleyes

P3 is the third of the technologies that gives increased WPS density. It magnifies the other two, anf produces virtually infinite effective wps. To whatever degree that words per second can improve results, this is as far as that factor can be taken.

It is top secret. Declassification is not going to happen, sorry.

How powerful it is depends on the script power without it, how it is implemented and other factors. It is generally pretty darned powerful, but its effects can be subtle to the conscious mind, especially in response to the naturalizer.
That's mind blowing
With this P3 tech, how much of an improvement in WPS would this be over BAMM 2.0 off the top of your head?

Anything compared to infinity is nothing, except infinity.

I dont remember the WPS density of BAMM2 off the top of my head.

And here i am thinking that 1600+% WPS improvement over 5G was amazing enough with DMSI.

This pretty much guarantees that 6G is going to be insane on so many levels.

I can't wait for the BASE upgrade in 2017 and beyond Big Grin


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-22-2016

(07-21-2016, 10:57 PM)AriGold Wrote: Does this "only pay the difference" also work for MIR?
I caught a nasty cold a few days back and would like to test it...

Only MLS, since MLS has consistently underperformed. MIR is known to be very effective. MIR 5.5G will be full price even if you have the original.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-22-2016

(07-22-2016, 06:40 AM)maxx55 Wrote: Trust me, I'll probably use MIR in the future. It has permanent long term programming right? Due to the nature of my career, an invincible immune system would be helpful.

I just simply don't know what to suggest. It was a lot easier to think of things for DMSI. For MIR, I just want the end result to be a permanent invincible immune system (or as close as possible). If that could be done in 6 months of usage, that'd be golden!

Something you guys don't seem to understand is that anything that actively shifts energy is going to fade over time without a direct source of motivation.

The sub is that source of motivation.

The current MIR is designed to be instant-on. It literally starts taking effect within seconds. It is just as fast off when you stop using it, because the direct impetus is stopped.

It takes a lot of energy to execute programming that directly manipulates energy like MIR and DMSI. Even when P3 is added to DMSI and MIR, it will still fade over time without use because it takes energy and motivation.

Let's say you paddle out into the middle of a large lake, maybe Lake Superior, in a canoe. It's fun at first, but then you realize, you're getting hungry. So you turn around and start paddling back, but your arms are really tired. You want to rest, but there's a wind blowing, and you know that if you don't paddle hard regardless, you might not make it back, and you might not make it back to where you left from. That's pretty good motivation to keep paddling.

But when you get back to shore, are you going to keep paddling? No, you don't need to, and you're tired, and the motivation is gone.

When you turn off the sub, your subconscious is like that too. It takes energy and effort, and without that direct motivation, it won't keep doing that forever. Sooner or later it is going to return to it's natural state of rest. So no, MIR is not and never will be aimed at being a permanent result inducing subliminal.

P3 may make it last hours or days after you turn it off (and may not, we shall see), but permanent, no.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-22-2016

(07-22-2016, 12:13 PM)Natious Wrote: Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.

I'm not working to make it "harder to resist". That's exactly the sort of approach that makes the resistance get harder. What I am working to do with 5.5/6G is to create a set of instructions that is as able as possible to avoid triggering resistance in the first place, and then get the subconscious to understand why the instructions given are what it wants to execute instead of resist.

6G is based heavily on this concept.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-22-2016

(07-22-2016, 01:55 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:
(07-22-2016, 12:13 PM)Natious Wrote: Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.

I'm one of those people.

Normally, I turn off all subliminals while doing my daily mental alchemy rituals, but a few days ago, I left AM6 (ultrasonic) running by accident.

There's a particular ritual that allows me to (and I'll explain this the best way I can), detach from my surroundings and direct my focus inward. From there, I'll monitor and observe my internal chatter and write down the more questionable lines. Imagine having a directional microphone and pointing it directly at your internal voice.

I kept "hearing" and writing down this anomalous thought -- it "sounded" like someone screaming in the distance. Tortured. Very painful. And it kept repeating the same thing over: "No, I won't do it." As I began to focus on that "voice," I became angrier and angrier until I was absolutely enraged. And suddenly, I realized what was going on. Hopped up, turned off AM6. The voice didn't go away immediately -- my guess is that the sub was still processing. However, about 5-6 hours later, I began to feel euphoric. Voice was gone.

Further tests yielded the following results: Ultrasonic exposure leads to anger / rage based resistance. Pissed off at the world. Wanna put my hand through a wall. Masked resistance is of the depressive kind. Down and out. No self-confidence.

I will say this: In my AOSI / DMSI tests, even on ultrasonic, I never experienced any anger / rage based resistance. Just depressive -- which, in my opinion, is my subconscious throwing up signs of fear rather than just stonewalling the sub.

Ultrasonic is louder, deals with shallower levels of subconscious awareness. Masked is lower in volume, and affects deeper levels of subconscious awareness.

RAGE is where you're angry, indignant and motivated to resist. In your case, you taking it as being shouted at what to do. Depression stems from feelings of hopelessness to resist. It doesn't want to cooperate, but is unable to resist, and it knows it. Conscious depression is the last line of defense before change is inevitable.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-22-2016

(07-22-2016, 02:06 PM)yeah! Wrote: ^ and ^^, Shannon, would you explain the best way to deal with resistance?

Do you experience resistance and how do you deal with it?

What are the unspoken rules, personal hints, for running your subs?

Things I remember are consciously going towards the goals of the sub, higher volume (not possible for some people) and longer hours (again not possible for some people).

The best way to deal with resistance is to consciously understand what is being resisted, and why, and then consciously make the determination to change something. That is the fastest and most powerful way to get past resistance. Unfortunately, it's also the rarest, because consciously understanding that is hard to do.

For me, when I experience resistance, the best way to deal with it is:

1. Identify and become cognizant of the fact that I am attempting to resist.
2. Choose to continue using the programming, regardless.
3. Seek to consciously understand the cause and reasons and change them consciously.

The best advice I can give you is, use the highest generation of subs you can, and just keep going.

The volume will be important. If high volume throws up a lot of resistance, then use mid to low volume. If low or mid volume is being ignored and resisted, then use a higher volume. But keep going.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Steven - 07-22-2016

Shannon,

Thank you for explaining this concept of volume more fully.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - thor2014 - 07-22-2016

Would it not make more sense to run a pre personality assessment before purchasing a sub ?

Some online test for example if you were bullied as a kid and dominated by your father the chances are you will not like being told what to do. The customer would undergo some kind of psychological online test which would then give him results shaped on his answers.

From the answer one could quantify the likelehood of the sub being effective ?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-23-2016

(07-22-2016, 09:50 PM)thor2014 Wrote: Would it not make more sense to run a pre personality assessment before purchasing a sub ?

Some online test for example if you were bullied as a kid and dominated by your father the chances are you will not like being told what to do. The customer would undergo some kind of psychological online test which would then give him results shaped on his answers.

From the answer one could quantify the likelehood of the sub being effective ?

A much better solution is for me to invent a subliminal that is universally effective across all options for personality and Physiology types which is what I am attempting to do


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Natious - 07-23-2016

(07-22-2016, 08:15 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-22-2016, 01:55 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:
(07-22-2016, 12:13 PM)Natious Wrote: Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.

I'm one of those people.

Normally, I turn off all subliminals while doing my daily mental alchemy rituals, but a few days ago, I left AM6 (ultrasonic) running by accident.

There's a particular ritual that allows me to (and I'll explain this the best way I can), detach from my surroundings and direct my focus inward. From there, I'll monitor and observe my internal chatter and write down the more questionable lines. Imagine having a directional microphone and pointing it directly at your internal voice.

I kept "hearing" and writing down this anomalous thought -- it "sounded" like someone screaming in the distance. Tortured. Very painful. And it kept repeating the same thing over: "No, I won't do it." As I began to focus on that "voice," I became angrier and angrier until I was absolutely enraged. And suddenly, I realized what was going on. Hopped up, turned off AM6. The voice didn't go away immediately -- my guess is that the sub was still processing. However, about 5-6 hours later, I began to feel euphoric. Voice was gone.

Further tests yielded the following results: Ultrasonic exposure leads to anger / rage based resistance. Pissed off at the world. Wanna put my hand through a wall. Masked resistance is of the depressive kind. Down and out. No self-confidence.

I will say this: In my AOSI / DMSI tests, even on ultrasonic, I never experienced any anger / rage based resistance. Just depressive -- which, in my opinion, is my subconscious throwing up signs of fear rather than just stonewalling the sub.

Ultrasonic is louder, deals with shallower levels of subconscious awareness. Masked is lower in volume, and affects deeper levels of subconscious awareness.

RAGE is where you're angry, indignant and motivated to resist. In your case, you taking it as being shouted at what to do. Depression stems from feelings of hopelessness to resist. It doesn't want to cooperate, but is unable to resist, and it knows it. Conscious depression is the last line of defense before change is inevitable.

Can you expand on that? I haven't really found an in depth comparison and explanation of how ultrasonic and masked differ or the benefits of using either.

I currently use earphones with masked during sleep (8-9h) and then a few hours of ultrasonic during the day from speakers. A lot of the the time I am depressed and apathetic to some degree. That makes doing anything besides indulging in video games and movies very challenging, even reading.

When I first started using subs (ASC), I remember that I ran ultrasonic on earphones. That seemed to give the fastest results, but with a cost. Tinnitus.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Benjamin - 07-23-2016

Quote:RAGE is where you're angry, indignant and motivated to resist. In your case, you taking it as being shouted at what to do. Depression stems from feelings of hopelessness to resist. It doesn't want to cooperate, but is unable to resist, and it knows it. Conscious depression is the last line of defense before change is inevitable.

Damn... that describes perfectly how it happens to me. Both of those are kind of seperate from each other for me, but I guess that's what you're saying here. Can't recall what order they happen for me though.