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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Qiel - 05-28-2021 (05-28-2021, 07:12 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:(05-28-2021, 07:05 PM)Qiel Wrote:(05-28-2021, 06:54 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:(05-28-2021, 04:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-27-2021, 07:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon You made a deal with me when I was on OF v2. That was that once I gave it the full 8months that you would then make UMOP3 for me. I feel you, Jake. It's not just you. Me, you, Shannon, are megadose in caffeine few days lately. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Jake2015 - 05-28-2021 (05-28-2021, 07:21 PM)Qiel Wrote:(05-28-2021, 07:12 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:(05-28-2021, 07:05 PM)Qiel Wrote:(05-28-2021, 06:54 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:(05-28-2021, 04:08 AM)Shannon Wrote: All of your issues stem from fear. Deal with that, and you won't need UMOP. If you can use OFv3 for six months and not get results, making UMOP won't even matter, because you'll have proven that you can and will defeat my subs no matter what I do. So you execute OF v3, and then we'll talk. Remember that as far I know, you've found some way to weasel out of, self deceive, avoid, sabotage or otherwise escape everything you've ever used that I created, which makes me wonder why you keep buying and using my subs. Also remember that if I had been operating in 5.75.6G or earlier, upgrading OFv2 to OFv3 would have required 3-4 days. It took a month. I'm already backlogged months and that's just the 3 subs I have on deck. So I can't be making deals like this, especially when it's worth betting on that you're not going to execute. Like I said, you execute OFv3 and then we can talk. yeah in my case its been years but gotta try that thing called water....apparently its all the rage these days lol RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Dilettante - 05-28-2021 @Shannon Two questions: 1) Will UMS2 have money manifestations like UMS1 did? I remember the description for UMS1 having it but I did not see it in the new UMS2 description. 2) Will you publish AYP/MYP titles with the newest technology that has 1 loop per day and all the tech/power from the newest titles? whether now or in 6g? Would it be possible to shorten the length of the sub run from 6-8 months to 4 months or less? I ask because I will buy them if you do publish them with 5.75.7's tech (I'm not asking for them to be built now, I'm only inquiring). RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ImFreeman - 05-29-2021 (05-27-2021, 07:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: The desire to experience more input comes from the module I created that attempts to get the ultimate authority on how to configure your usage of the program to achieve the goals - your subconscious awareness - to guide you to the right amount of loops, days on, days off, for you. It has been difficult to get working, but it seems to be more prominent in 5.75.7G. Hello Shannon, Im reaching day 14 of OF V3 and feel the need of more listening time, should I raise it progressively (1 loop at a time per cycle), or should I directly go to what Im thinking would be best ? Delegating the decision of how much to listen to the subconcious mind, Isn't this prone to fuck us over, if the subconcious really doesn't want to change and wants to sabotage our efforts ? The effects I've noticed so far have been sleepy/yawning while listening, and better sleep after the 1 loop. And also slightly more free to do what I need to do, a little less procastination, but this is still very early and have a lot to improve still My country went again into strict quarantine so I've not been out of my house a lot, so social anxiety and the likes have not been triggered to know if there are improvements. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 05-29-2021 (05-28-2021, 05:34 PM)THolt Wrote:(05-28-2021, 11:42 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-28-2021, 09:56 AM)rarus426 Wrote: @Shannon With v2, you can consciously set a goal, but that is going to be secondary in impact to what is being done subconsciously, and may be over-ridden completely if it is distracting to the goals your subconscious sets. You will need to trust the program, and what your subconscious chooses as a result of using it. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - fab10 - 05-29-2021 (05-29-2021, 06:54 AM)ImFreeman Wrote: Delegating the decision of how much to listen to the subconcious mind, Isn't this prone to fuck us over, if the subconcious really doesn't want to change and wants to sabotage our efforts ?I remember Shannon once saying that if you feel the urge to listen more after a couple of ASRB2 cycles, that’s likely to be the auto-config kicking in and giving you directions. If you feel the urge to listen less, however, that could be your subconscious trying to fuck you over (i.e. resistance.) RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 05-29-2021 (05-28-2021, 06:54 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:(05-28-2021, 04:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-27-2021, 07:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon You made a deal with me when I was on OF v2. That was that once I gave it the full 8months that you would then make UMOP3 for me. Jake I have nothing against you personally, but to be frank, you piss me off. Now I have other customers who piss me off for similar reasons, and I grit my teeth and bear it because it can be good for developing the subs. But in your case, you seem to be the most extreme example I have ever seen of a specific type of resistance that I may never have a solution to. And that frustrates me to no end. I of course want all of my customers to succeed, but with 5.75.7G we are close to finished with 6G and if this doesn't work for you, there's nothing left I can do. The changes coming in 6G will probably not involve more power. They will probably be refinements from here on out. So at this point, your best hope is that you find the right usage pattern for OFv3. You may need more loops per day, fewer days off, more days on, or some combination of these. I am relatively confident that something like that will break through and I'm seeing hints that it's already breaking through, but I don't follow you too closely because the resistance you've always shown in the past frustrates me so much. I want to help you, but at the same time, I am writing a list of instructions. Very advanced, complex and intricate instructions, but they're just instructions. And if you, whatever level of you, doesn't choose to execute them, then eventually there will be nothing left for me to do. We are not far from that point. I don't want you spending money again and again on things that don't get you results. Some of my customers do that, and while it's more money in my pocket, it's very frustrating for me because I want you guys to get what you paid for. I also don't want you filling the forum with "Shannon's subs do jack schitt for me" because you represent 1 in a million or less, and yet because most people who get results don't post here, it makes it look like those of you who come here asking for help or having a problem are in the majority, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth. The forum is advertising for us, and this sort of misunderstanding really degrades our sales, which reduces our income, which lowers our R&D budget, which slows down R&D, which makes everything worse. So of course I want you to succeed, but if nothing I do works for you, I also don't want people to think you're a typical case instead of the incredibly rare bonehead you are. Before this version came out, I had written you off. The models kept telling me that there was going to be a big jump in power before 6G came out, and it seems to have happened with 5.75.7G, so given what I have seen so far I think it's still a reasonable bet that this will work for you. We just have to find the right exposure levels and timings, and that I don't have a problem helping you with. But one of the biggest issues you have, I think, is that you don't want the goal, you don't want it enough, you don't want to take enough responsibility for your choices, and you want to have something to fall back on to blame for not being where you want to be. In other words, if I give you a grocery list and 100 times you go to the store, buy nothing and come back empty handed, eventually I am going to stop doing that. That means that it's time to "shit or get off the pot", as mom used to say. I'm always glad to help my customers, but I also don't have time to waste while people play games trying to avoid achieving, and dance around the goal. If that happens too much or too long, sooner or later I'm going to have to say, "It's time for you to find something else that works better for you," and send you on your way. I really don't want to do that, partly because I want you to succeed, and partly because finally breaking through would be a win-win for us both. But if in the end my best isn't good enough... I'm going to have to send you on your way to find something that does work for you. OFv3 does not have state shift override active, but state shifting caused by drugs will still have effects. I wonder if perhaps you don't use caffeine, etc. to avoid sleep so you can always be tired and have an excuse to avoid doing things you want with tiredness and sleep schedule as your excuse. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 05-29-2021 (05-28-2021, 08:30 PM)Dilettante Wrote: @Shannon UMS v2 is UMS v1, but upgraded, optimized and empowered. The only things I removed from the key script were a few minor modules that, after optimization, were either redundant or unnecessary. Quote:2) Will you publish AYP/MYP titles with the newest technology that has 1 loop per day and all the tech/power from the newest titles? whether now or in 6g? Would it be possible to shorten the length of the sub run from 6-8 months to 4 months or less? The future of manifestation titles will be MYP programs. We will be doing that. However, right now is not the time to focus on that. As for how long it takes to run such a sub and achieve the goals, that depends on you. I won't know how long it takes on average until the programs are built and I can run such a specific example through the models. I'm aiming for manifestations in 6 months or less, preferably 2-3 months, but that's a goal, not a certainty. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 05-29-2021 (05-29-2021, 06:54 AM)ImFreeman Wrote:(05-27-2021, 07:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: The desire to experience more input comes from the module I created that attempts to get the ultimate authority on how to configure your usage of the program to achieve the goals - your subconscious awareness - to guide you to the right amount of loops, days on, days off, for you. It has been difficult to get working, but it seems to be more prominent in 5.75.7G. If you feel like 3 days of rest works well for keeping you from exhaustion, then add a loop per day on for an ASRB2 cycle and see how you feel then. If you feel like 3 days of bloom is too much, then instead of adding a loop, reduce your days off by one per ASRB2 cycle until you find the sweet spot. If you have a specific urge to do something, follow that urge instead. That should be the AutoConfig module executing, and it should take priority unless you have an urge to do suspiciously less exposure, which may be an attempt at sabotage. Quote:Delegating the decision of how much to listen to the subconcious mind, Isn't this prone to fuck us over, if the subconcious really doesn't want to change and wants to sabotage our efforts ? If the resistant parts dominate, then they will try to sabotage. However, sabotage is going to involve doing things to prevent the program from being able to achieve its goals, which are typically relatively obvious: significantly less exposure, significantly lower volumes, headaches, excuses why you should switch to something else, the usual BS etc. If the cooperative subconscious is in control, then it will be executing the AutoConfig module and that is going to be obvious because it will either be asking for more exposure or a different listening pattern that is at least as much exposure, but in a different rhythm. Quote:The effects I've noticed so far have been sleepy/yawning while listening, and better sleep after the 1 loop. And also slightly more free to do what I need to do, a little less procastination, but this is still very early and have a lot to improve still That sounds like progress to me. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - fab10 - 05-29-2021 @Jake2015 It might be wishful thinking but I have seen hints that you are executing this time. I have also seen that you’re still trying to find ways to sabotage yourself again, but much less than you did before. You are breaking through, just don’t overthink it and let it happen. And please give me permission to kick your ass next time you come up with a way to sabotage your progress ![]() ![]() RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - callie - 05-29-2021 Hmm.. Ive genuinely misread the instruction to OFv3. I thought it was 2 loops per day on rather than 1. No idea how I got that wrong.. Im using masked format and currently on third cycle and I feel fine. Would you suggest I start over with 1 loop per day on? I dont really feel I need to but thought I should ask since its new tech and all RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Raykon - 05-29-2021 If you're getting good results, I would say stick with it. Shannon has mentioned that some people may require more loops then others, and some people may be better with 1 loops. Ect. (05-29-2021, 10:36 AM)callie Wrote: Hmm.. Ive genuinely misread the instruction to OFv3. I thought it was 2 loops per day on rather than 1. No idea how I got that wrong.. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 05-29-2021 (05-29-2021, 10:36 AM)callie Wrote: Hmm.. Ive genuinely misread the instruction to OFv3. I thought it was 2 loops per day on rather than 1. No idea how I got that wrong.. What sort of results have you gotten so far? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - callie - 05-29-2021 Fairly good. I sleep better which is a huge plus. Im also happier and more optimistic in general. No major fear has been adressed, but its not expected since im still only one and a half week in. |