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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - UniversalMan - 04-06-2021

(04-03-2021, 12:01 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Eh.... @Shannon , as I supposed I have problems with attackers (energeticaly) , I am currently running MHS,and I thought to run it just for 4 cycles (if it is possible the following I would run it even longer) , but things are getting too problematic without any shield (plus some distant relatives (wannabe good people) are coming over and staying at least a month), so I have options (if it could be done this way)
What to do?
MHS+DRS
MHS+AOL (would prefer this one if it is an option)

I am aware that it could be draining and I am aware that it will share resources, my concern is would AOL or DRS conflict with MHS...
Your thoughts?

Thank you in advance

@Shannon I do not know if you saw this post


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Wiseg9999 - 04-07-2021

(04-01-2021, 04:14 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive been listening to MLS everyday after out last discussion.
my anger in day trading is not gone but heavily decreased, my guess would be the anger when i lose will go away eventually.

however, i am not feeling the "superpowers" of MLS anymore. i had some good success in the first 3 weeks, i felt more motivated, more focused. ive used MLS since day 1 it was released.

do i just keep going as is or is something "wrong" and needs to be changed?

thanks Shannon.

Hi Shannon, just to come back to this topic, i realise you probably been busy to answer i had more time to think about it anyway. Its common for me with your subs for the magic to occur and feel great in the first 1-4 weeks, after which i wont feel much. I do however start to feel something the longer i use something i mean like 8-12 months there is more inner peace / i dont give a dam attitude, this is why i tend to use your programs long term. Once i am off the sub, i then notice the general good feelings - that were subtle / difficult to put a finger on while on the program.

anyway i am telling you this in hope you know how to help me to execute this MLS program. i really want this one to work and i think the results would be very tangible/immediate because of my trading.

i am not sure now how to adjust my listening to better execute. im not sure why im not feeling anything anymore, i do feel tired in the mornings nothing major a coffee can fix it. But im nowhere near hitting the goals of the program.

do i have a problem in general with subs (if so how can i uncover this issue) or just give it more time?
maybe im having too high expectations of the program? i dont know - i just want to achieve the goals of the program.

thanks alot for your help!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - MagicalAlchemist - 04-07-2021

(04-07-2021, 03:36 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 04:14 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive been listening to MLS everyday after out last discussion.
my anger in day trading is not gone but heavily decreased, my guess would be the anger when i lose will go away eventually.

however, i am not feeling the "superpowers" of MLS anymore. i had some good success in the first 3 weeks, i felt more motivated, more focused. ive used MLS since day 1 it was released.

do i just keep going as is or is something "wrong" and needs to be changed?

thanks Shannon.

Hi Shannon, just to come back to this topic, i realise you probably been busy to answer i had more time to think about it anyway. Its common for me with your subs for the magic to occur and feel great in the first 1-4 weeks, after which i wont feel much. I do however start to feel something the longer i use something i mean like 8-12 months there is more inner peace / i dont give a dam attitude, this is why i tend to use your programs long term. Once i am off the sub, i then notice the general good feelings - that were subtle / difficult to put a finger on while on the program.

anyway i am telling you this in hope you know how to help me to execute this MLS program. i really want this one to work and i think the results would be very tangible/immediate because of my trading.

i am not sure now how to adjust my listening to better execute. im not sure why im not feeling anything anymore, i do feel tired in the mornings nothing major a coffee can fix it. But im nowhere near hitting the goals of the program.

do i have a problem in general with subs (if so how can i uncover this issue) or just give it more time?
maybe im having too high expectations of the program? i dont know - i just want to achieve the goals of the program.

thanks alot for your help!

Have you ever tried lowering the volume? I have resistance with OFv2 in the past because my volume is too loud, and then I tried suggestion from Shannon to lowering my volume to 4/15. Well, I'm execute OFv2 right now without resistance just a mild headache sometimes, but it's not bother me.



RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Wiseg9999 - 04-07-2021

(04-07-2021, 03:50 AM)MagicalAlchemist Wrote:
(04-07-2021, 03:36 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 04:14 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive been listening to MLS everyday after out last discussion.
my anger in day trading is not gone but heavily decreased, my guess would be the anger when i lose will go away eventually.

however, i am not feeling the "superpowers" of MLS anymore. i had some good success in the first 3 weeks, i felt more motivated, more focused. ive used MLS since day 1 it was released.

do i just keep going as is or is something "wrong" and needs to be changed?

thanks Shannon.

Hi Shannon, just to come back to this topic, i realise you probably been busy to answer i had more time to think about it anyway. Its common for me with your subs for the magic to occur and feel great in the first 1-4 weeks, after which i wont feel much. I do however start to feel something the longer i use something i mean like 8-12 months there is more inner peace / i dont give a dam attitude, this is why i tend to use your programs long term. Once i am off the sub, i then notice the general good feelings - that were subtle / difficult to put a finger on while on the program.

anyway i am telling you this in hope you know how to help me to execute this MLS program. i really want this one to work and i think the results would be very tangible/immediate because of my trading.

i am not sure now how to adjust my listening to better execute. im not sure why im not feeling anything anymore, i do feel tired in the mornings nothing major a coffee can fix it. But im nowhere near hitting the goals of the program.

do i have a problem in general with subs (if so how can i uncover this issue) or just give it more time?
maybe im having too high expectations of the program? i dont know - i just want to achieve the goals of the program.

thanks alot for your help!

Have you ever tried lowering the volume? I have resistance with OFv2 in the past because my volume is too loud, and then I tried suggestion from Shannon to lowering my volume to 4/15. Well, I'm execute OFv2 right now without resistance just a mild headache sometimes, but it's not bother me.

no, ive never tried lowering the volumes - i have always been more on the higher volume side of things and/or more loops kinda guy.. i spoke with Shannon about this 2-3 weeks and i decided to keep the volume at the high level and listen everyday


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-07-2021

(04-02-2021, 08:59 PM)MagicalAlchemist Wrote:
Shannon, does OFv2 dealing with negative self-talk and limiting belief, like : "i cant do this because i'm failed in the past Or I know i'm broke that's why i deserve this." ?

Negative self talk is rooted in fear.  It is an effort to prevent something that is feared from coming to pass.  So OF will remove it by default.  Anything that comes from or grows out of fear is removed when the fear that causes it is removed.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-07-2021

(04-03-2021, 12:01 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Eh.... @Shannon , as I supposed I have problems with attackers (energeticaly) , I am currently running MHS,and I thought to run it just for 4 cycles (if it is possible the following I would run it even longer) , but things are getting too problematic without any shield (plus some distant relatives (wannabe good people) are coming over and staying at least a month), so I have options (if it could be done this way)
What to do?
MHS+DRS
MHS+AOL (would prefer this one if it is an option)

I am aware that it could be draining and I am aware that it will share resources, my concern is would AOL or DRS conflict with MHS...
Your thoughts?

Thank you in advance

You can't do MHS and anything else and get the results MHS is designed to give you.  You could try to add in loops of DRS, but that will derail MHS to whatever degree you do.  So you should either use MHS OR DRS, or focus on MHS and try to find a balance of DRS.  I would NOT suggest using AOL because it is 5.75.7G and is significantly more powerful, and therefore potentially distracting and disruptive.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-07-2021

(04-04-2021, 02:35 PM)fab10 Wrote:
(04-03-2021, 01:28 AM)Buz Wrote: I usually finish work about 15:30 and generally meditate for an hour straight afterwards. I'd be running the sub at night, so there would be a fair few hours in between.
You could do some other kind of “meditation”, as long as you avoid BWE and any kind of mind programming (including affirmations, guided imagery, NLP, etc.) My choice is HeartMath at the moment, I feel it gives a tremendous well-being value for the time (5 to 10 minutes) and it definitely stays away from mind programming.

Allow me to correct some misunderstandings.  If you meditate right before you use the sub, it should have little to no negative impact as long as you are not using the meditation as mind programming, because the sub is going to override the state after you meditate, and the meditation is only changing your state for an hour.  That is okay.

BWE and the rest should be avoided.  I'm not familiar enough with HeartMath yet to comment.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-07-2021

(04-05-2021, 12:29 AM)Habib Wrote:
(04-04-2021, 01:37 PM)sushi521 Wrote: Hey Shannon, does MLS have statements to improve your verbal communication skills? Thanks.

I'm no Shannon but these statements below are part of MLS 4.0 subgoals.

"56. Develop and improve your verbal intelligence, mathematical ability, spatial reasoning skills, visual and perceptual skills, classification skills, logical reasoning skills and pattern recognition skills."

"63. Develop the ability to articulate what you have learned such that presenting, reporting and debating become effortless."

Thank you, Habib.  This is correct.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-07-2021

(04-06-2021, 03:24 AM)UniversalMan Wrote:
(04-03-2021, 12:01 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Eh.... @Shannon , as I supposed I have problems with attackers (energeticaly) , I am currently running MHS,and I thought to run it just for 4 cycles (if it is possible the following I would run it even longer) , but things are getting too problematic without any shield (plus some distant relatives (wannabe good people) are coming over and staying at least a month), so I have options (if it could be done this way)
What to do?
MHS+DRS
MHS+AOL (would prefer this one if it is an option)

I am aware that it could be draining and I am aware that it will share resources, my concern is would AOL or DRS conflict with MHS...
Your thoughts?

Thank you in advance

@Shannon I do not know if you saw this post

I have been overwhelmed with demands for my time this last 4 days, so it's been challenging to get on here and reply.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-07-2021

(04-07-2021, 03:36 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 04:14 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive been listening to MLS everyday after out last discussion.
my anger in day trading is not gone but heavily decreased, my guess would be the anger when i lose will go away eventually.

however, i am not feeling the "superpowers" of MLS anymore. i had some good success in the first 3 weeks, i felt more motivated, more focused. ive used MLS since day 1 it was released.

do i just keep going as is or is something "wrong" and needs to be changed?

thanks Shannon.

Hi Shannon, just to come back to this topic, i realise you probably been busy to answer i had more time to think about it anyway. Its common for me with your subs for the magic to occur and feel great in the first 1-4 weeks, after which i wont feel much. I do however start to feel something the longer i use something i mean like 8-12 months there is more inner peace / i dont give a dam attitude, this is why i tend to use your programs long term. Once i am off the sub, i then notice the general good feelings - that were subtle / difficult to put a finger on while on the program.

anyway i am telling you this in hope you know how to help me to execute this MLS program. i really want this one to work and i think the results would be very tangible/immediate because of my trading.

i am not sure now how to adjust my listening to better execute. im not sure why im not feeling anything anymore, i do feel tired in the mornings nothing major a coffee can fix it. But im nowhere near hitting the goals of the program.

do i have a problem in general with subs (if so how can i uncover this issue) or just give it more time?
maybe im having too high expectations of the program? i dont know - i just want to achieve the goals of the program.

thanks alot for your help!

The issue is that over time, you're going to have different parts reacting in different ways under certain circumstances.

In the beginning, you're executing more fully in your case, because the fears haven't been touched yet.  Then as you get down to the parts that fear achieving the goal, they start trying to object, and the FRM starts working them through the issues.  That part can take a short or very long time, depending on specifics.  This is why after 8-12 months you start getting better results, and they improve again when you come off entirely.  That is indication that some part of you is resisting "being told what to do".

This program is very aggressive about dealing with any fears you have that hinder achieving the goals of the program.  That would, by default, include trying to resist "being told what to do".  So that's going to be a significant struggle, and you'll probably want to periodically adjust the volume up or down to some degree to keep things going by communicating the program to slightly different levels of your subconscious.  If you find one where the program seems to really pop, keep using that.  There is no one perfect volume or perfect volume for everyone.

Have you already run through OF?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - UniversalMan - 04-07-2021

(04-07-2021, 01:33 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(04-03-2021, 12:01 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Eh.... @Shannon , as I supposed I have problems with attackers (energeticaly) , I am currently running MHS,and I thought to run it just for 4 cycles (if it is possible the following I would run it even longer) , but things are getting too problematic without any shield (plus some distant relatives (wannabe good people) are coming over and staying at least a month), so I have options (if it could be done this way)
What to do?
MHS+DRS
MHS+AOL (would prefer this one if it is an option)

I am aware that it could be draining and I am aware that it will share resources, my concern is would AOL or DRS conflict with MHS...
Your thoughts?

Thank you in advance

You can't do MHS and anything else and get the results MHS is designed to give you.  You could try to add in loops of DRS, but that will derail MHS to whatever degree you do.  So you should either use MHS OR DRS, or focus on MHS and try to find a balance of DRS.  I would NOT suggest using AOL because it is 5.75.7G and is significantly more powerful, and therefore potentially distracting and disruptive.

Thank you for clarification


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Wiseg9999 - 04-07-2021

(04-07-2021, 01:42 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(04-07-2021, 03:36 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 04:14 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive been listening to MLS everyday after out last discussion.
my anger in day trading is not gone but heavily decreased, my guess would be the anger when i lose will go away eventually.

however, i am not feeling the "superpowers" of MLS anymore. i had some good success in the first 3 weeks, i felt more motivated, more focused. ive used MLS since day 1 it was released.

do i just keep going as is or is something "wrong" and needs to be changed?

thanks Shannon.

Hi Shannon, just to come back to this topic, i realise you probably been busy to answer i had more time to think about it anyway. Its common for me with your subs for the magic to occur and feel great in the first 1-4 weeks, after which i wont feel much. I do however start to feel something the longer i use something i mean like 8-12 months there is more inner peace / i dont give a dam attitude, this is why i tend to use your programs long term. Once i am off the sub, i then notice the general good feelings - that were subtle / difficult to put a finger on while on the program.

anyway i am telling you this in hope you know how to help me to execute this MLS program. i really want this one to work and i think the results would be very tangible/immediate because of my trading.

i am not sure now how to adjust my listening to better execute. im not sure why im not feeling anything anymore, i do feel tired in the mornings nothing major a coffee can fix it. But im nowhere near hitting the goals of the program.

do i have a problem in general with subs (if so how can i uncover this issue) or just give it more time?
maybe im having too high expectations of the program? i dont know - i just want to achieve the goals of the program.

thanks alot for your help!

The issue is that over time, you're going to have different parts reacting in different ways under certain circumstances.

In the beginning, you're executing more fully in your case, because the fears haven't been touched yet.  Then as you get down to the parts that fear achieving the goal, they start trying to object, and the FRM starts working them through the issues.  That part can take a short or very long time, depending on specifics.  This is why after 8-12 months you start getting better results, and they improve again when you come off entirely.  That is indication that some part of you is resisting "being told what to do".

This program is very aggressive about dealing with any fears you have that hinder achieving the goals of the program.  That would, by default, include trying to resist "being told what to do".  So that's going to be a significant struggle, and you'll probably want to periodically adjust the volume up or down to some degree to keep things going by communicating the program to slightly different levels of your subconscious.  If you find one where the program seems to really pop, keep using that.  There is no one perfect volume or perfect volume for everyone.

Have you already run through OF?

Shannon, thanks a lot, appreciate it. Yep i hate being told what to do i want to be the boss, it comes from my child hood, and over controlling father.

I bought OF v1 when it first came out, then got covid and had a battle of MIR one month and OF another month until i felt better (maybe you remember i told you this). Came back on the forums and MLS was released with the strong FRM so it was a no brainer to run that for my trading.

I can try the next week with reduced volume and see what happens like you suggest.

Is it better to stop and run OF v1?
My goal is still to nail my trading.

thanks again


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 04-08-2021

(04-07-2021, 02:46 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote:
(04-07-2021, 01:42 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(04-07-2021, 03:36 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 04:14 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive been listening to MLS everyday after out last discussion.
my anger in day trading is not gone but heavily decreased, my guess would be the anger when i lose will go away eventually.

however, i am not feeling the "superpowers" of MLS anymore. i had some good success in the first 3 weeks, i felt more motivated, more focused. ive used MLS since day 1 it was released.

do i just keep going as is or is something "wrong" and needs to be changed?

thanks Shannon.

Hi Shannon, just to come back to this topic, i realise you probably been busy to answer i had more time to think about it anyway. Its common for me with your subs for the magic to occur and feel great in the first 1-4 weeks, after which i wont feel much. I do however start to feel something the longer i use something i mean like 8-12 months there is more inner peace / i dont give a dam attitude, this is why i tend to use your programs long term. Once i am off the sub, i then notice the general good feelings - that were subtle / difficult to put a finger on while on the program.

anyway i am telling you this in hope you know how to help me to execute this MLS program. i really want this one to work and i think the results would be very tangible/immediate because of my trading.

i am not sure now how to adjust my listening to better execute. im not sure why im not feeling anything anymore, i do feel tired in the mornings nothing major a coffee can fix it. But im nowhere near hitting the goals of the program.

do i have a problem in general with subs (if so how can i uncover this issue) or just give it more time?
maybe im having too high expectations of the program? i dont know - i just want to achieve the goals of the program.

thanks alot for your help!

The issue is that over time, you're going to have different parts reacting in different ways under certain circumstances.

In the beginning, you're executing more fully in your case, because the fears haven't been touched yet.  Then as you get down to the parts that fear achieving the goal, they start trying to object, and the FRM starts working them through the issues.  That part can take a short or very long time, depending on specifics.  This is why after 8-12 months you start getting better results, and they improve again when you come off entirely.  That is indication that some part of you is resisting "being told what to do".

This program is very aggressive about dealing with any fears you have that hinder achieving the goals of the program.  That would, by default, include trying to resist "being told what to do".  So that's going to be a significant struggle, and you'll probably want to periodically adjust the volume up or down to some degree to keep things going by communicating the program to slightly different levels of your subconscious.  If you find one where the program seems to really pop, keep using that.  There is no one perfect volume or perfect volume for everyone.

Have you already run through OF?

Shannon, thanks a lot, appreciate it. Yep i hate being told what to do i want to be the boss, it comes from my child hood, and over controlling father.

I bought OF v1 when it first came out, then got covid and had a battle of MIR one month and OF another month until i felt better (maybe you remember i told you this). Came back on the forums and MLS was released with the strong FRM so it was a no brainer to run that for my trading.

I can try the next week with reduced volume and see what happens like you suggest.

Is it better to stop and run OF v1?
My goal is still to nail my trading.

thanks again

If the goal is X and Y is holding you back, then the logical first step to that goal is to remove Y.  Since Y is fear, and MLS focuses on removing fear of learning, it may not be dealing with fears that need to be removed to achieve your overall goal.  There is a very good reason that I released OF instead of just putting FRM in everything, and there is a very good reason why OF v1 and v2 are designed to be used for most of a year.  You can't skip ahead to the fun parts just because it's not fun to pour the concrete that forms the foundation of the house.

Go back and run OF correctly.  And if you can swing it, definitely get and use v2.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - TugaInVegas - 04-08-2021

I just wanna say, I'm 10 days into AOL, and my own mom started looking at me weirdly, and when I asked why, she said that I just look happier than usual and smiling more.
I've been using Shannon's subs since 2016 on and off, and this is the first time I actually got a response that people see. I'm working at home now, so i can't really see what it does to many people, but I have definitely felt happier, even though nothing has changed externally in my life, as of now.
I believe this makes a point to just how powerful this new tech is, and with just 1 loop per day...
Thanks Shannon, and keep doing the great job you've been doing.