Quote:I felt like after all the work i had done over the years on bettering my self and being the best me i can be with Alpha Male traits. i felt like none of it stuck and that i was still just a "nice guy".

(06-30-2011, 08:52 PM)benjamin Wrote: Actually i've made an observation.

The media obviously DOES know what is attractive to women, evidenced by shows like this..

But then in most shows they show guys who are pussies getting the girls.

But there is a distinction.

The successful guys in these shows are always ***** up, so it's made to look like it's bad getting alot of women.

The wussy guys who get the women by being 'nice' and a pussy seem to have the happy ending.

Still subtly pushing us that way.

Interesting.

(07-01-2011, 09:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-30-2011, 08:52 PM)benjamin Wrote: Actually i've made an observation.

The media obviously DOES know what is attractive to women, evidenced by shows like this..

But then in most shows they show guys who are pussies getting the girls.

But there is a distinction.

The successful guys in these shows are always ***** up, so it's made to look like it's bad getting alot of women.

The wussy guys who get the women by being 'nice' and a pussy seem to have the happy ending.

Still subtly pushing us that way.

Interesting.

Now that begs the questions...

HOW does the media know what is truly attractive to women? And WHY does the media consistently show the ever competent female lead ending up with the ever incompetent male lead? And WHY do the guys who do as they please get portrayed as "bad"?

I'll tell you why. It's because somewhere along the lines, these themes are being generated by women. Whether it be pandering to the ratings, the writers, the producers, the corporate end, I don't know, but somewhere along the line, these things are being filtered through a woman's point of view, and said women seem to like portraying men as incompetent, and understand that TV = education for the vast majority of people (men and women).

The result is... our confused and conflicted society!

Now not all women think like this, as I have said before, but as time goes on, more and more do, because TV is "teaching them" to think like this. And most women I have met, well intientioned as they may be, actually have no idea they are thinking like this and acting like this is/should be the case (when/if they do). And they will typically become very highly offended, defensively and offensively if you point it out. Should you start doing so, expect to be labelled a "sexist a**hole" and a "male chauvinist pig" and every other thing a man can be called as an attack. That's the attempt to get back the power by guilt tripping you into compliance, or shaming you into compliance, or even blacklisting in some cases. And once that starts happening to you, the absolute worst thing you can do is back down and -- in their eyes -- "admit" that they're right. Too many men allow themselves to be strung along and manipulated that way. Stand your ground and argue what you believe to be The Right Thing!

It's the "one bad apple" in the barrel influencing us all, only in this case the "one bad apple" is a small group of women whom I would bet dollars to donuts know exactly what they're doing. The vast majority who are doing this sort of thing don't realize that they're following along, or they have realized it, but couldn't handle it without rationalizing that it was "fair because men do it to women".

Certainly there is not gender equality in either direction. In some places, women are ahead, and in some places men are ahead. And as I have said before, I honestly don't think genuine equality is possible, at least currently. There seems to be a gender war brewing that has to play itself out and come to a full head before we can get serious about this. And until us men realize what's going on with the subtle manipulations and learning to be out own independent man, with or without a woman, absolutely refusing to be manipulated, used or taken for granted, the end result seems inevitable. You have to be a real man, and control yourself. NEVER allow a woman to manipulate you, especially using sex! I think that's our biggest problem as men is that most guys have no willpower or self control, and will literally do anything to get some sex.

The thing that really scares me is that every time the pendulum swings in a different direction, we seemingly only make it harder to get it to stop in the middle. So, gentlemen, remember that you must BECOME what you seek to find. You want her to treat you right? Deserve it. And treat her right if she deserves it, but refuse to take bad treatment or manipulation from anyone - and don't perpetrate it, either.

(07-01-2011, 04:04 PM)woceyes Wrote: My dad gets home today from work and tells me that the whole back dock (where recycling is) has been talking about me and how much they are sick of me talking about that one girl. Yes, i have talked a lot but it has all been with jokes and things i thought were interesting. Stuff that stuck out to me for collection in my mind. positive "memories" you could say to show that what i am doing is working, a sort of confirmation. even things that helped me but i guess others don't share my enthusiasm
for learning things weather its flirting or talking.

at work most of my entertainment has been joking around with her. I will tell people because i thought it was humorous and would be great to pass on. I guess learning the hard way is the best way to stop doing something or change something. I generally don't care what people think, but this takes the cake. Yes if even one of them had half a brain they can probably find me on here. I got so enthralled in her being the exotic (in my mind) to my boring that i talked to much.

I know when i continue this sub the talk will only change to a different thing. shannon any tips? because i feel like being an a hole and talking everyone's ears off just to piss them off.

(07-02-2011, 07:12 AM)woceyes Wrote: thank you Shannon after thinking it over, talking to you and Ryan.

I decided i really don't care what they think. I was telling the entertainment side of her and i conversations and jokes ,thinking they could bring a smile to some one else. Apparently i was wrong, so F them and there complaining. If they were really tired of it they should say something to my face anyways.

I was talking to her on the phone about it and apparently most of the people are jealous of her and I. They say we act different around each other. (not sure if i do or don't my dad says we do). They try to joke with her and then go o yeah we are not Tony and can't joke with you. One of them said that i only liked her because she talked to me.... last but not least, one asked how did she get me to be so comfortable with her when i wasn't usually with people.

All jealous statements, which proves that Shannons products work wonderfully. Alpha helped me be comfortable and calm. The flirt sub increased my flirting ability, and all the others helped carve this better me. The people at work feel insecure of themselves to try to bring me down in her eyes. After all this all i can say F them i i write my own rules and live my life the way i want to they don't like it i don't care.

Thank you again Shannon and Ryan I feel better. ill let you know about the girlfriend thing