(09-20-2018, 04:32 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:17 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:13 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:04 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 03:36 AM)Fluffy Wrote: In my opinion, you only attract "fearful" situations when you are putting out fearful vibes. In other words if you are coming from a happy, healthy, positive place dominantly you wont actually attract these bad feeling situations to begin with.

You are what you put out. If you do attract these kinds of women that are not so good feeling then there must be something about you that is attracting them in the first place. Fear would do it, but also worrying about these things consistently or remembering past events and pushing against it happening again. It could also be not necessarily related to women but just a similar unwanted, negative bad feelings that bring more of that shit to you.

I think it is much more healthy and powerful to take responsibility for whatever you attract to you, as something that you have going on inside yourself.

Like attracts like, birds of a feather flock together.

As long as you know what you are putting out, you wont have to worry about attracting crazy chicks and what not because you wont even be a match anyway.

Crazy chicks that would cry rape and all this negative BS are on a much lower vibrational wave length and you would only attract that situation, if you was a match to that.

Externally nothing happens randomly, it all comes from within you.

There is nothing to fear, when you understand that the outside is a reflection of your inside. As you hold the power, as you are aware of what you have going on and you can change it as you are in control of yourself. Instead of thinking you are out of control and these random situations can happen at anytime and it has nothing to do with you and you are worried about it happening.

Your vibe attracts your tribe.

For the sake of the subliminal, yes I agree, lets see what it can do first without adding more limiters.

So this is why bad things never ever happen to good and happy people?

Oh wait...

Law of attraction and vibration resonance are so misunderstood that they're usually worthless when an individual tries to self apply them.

I'll stay out of the AS topic, but this is just bad information. "Vibrational level" has absolutely nothing to do with how a person interacts and gets on in life. There are "low" vibration individuals that are walking saints in life, and "high" vibration individuals that would be considered the scum of the earth by many.

You are entitled to you opinion or (Belief) as am I

I completely agree. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions. I just wanted to point out incorrect information.

Ok I will bite, only for fun though!

To be honest, from you reply is full of false premise so I can see where you miss understand.

For example there is no way for you to know where someone is vibing at outside looking in, it is impossible. When I say vibrational level, I speaking about the emotional guidance scale from Abraham Hicks and where your vibration in most of the time, dominantly.

"why bad things never ever happen to good and happy people?"

What is your definition of good or happy people? How do you know what is going on inside of them? How do you know where they are vibing at? How do you know what beliefs and fears they have? ....They happy because you see them smiling? They good because you saw them do a good deed? ...That does not say where they are dominantly vibing at.

(09-20-2018, 04:52 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:04 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 03:36 AM)Fluffy Wrote: In my opinion, you only attract "fearful" situations when you are putting out fearful vibes. In other words if you are coming from a happy, healthy, positive place dominantly you wont actually attract these bad feeling situations to begin with.

You are what you put out. If you do attract these kinds of women that are not so good feeling then there must be something about you that is attracting them in the first place. Fear would do it, but also worrying about these things consistently or remembering past events and pushing against it happening again. It could also be not necessarily related to women but just a similar unwanted, negative bad feelings that bring more of that shit to you.

I think it is much more healthy and powerful to take responsibility for whatever you attract to you, as something that you have going on inside yourself.

Like attracts like, birds of a feather flock together.

As long as you know what you are putting out, you wont have to worry about attracting crazy chicks and what not because you wont even be a match anyway.

Crazy chicks that would cry rape and all this negative BS are on a much lower vibrational wave length and you would only attract that situation, if you was a match to that.

Externally nothing happens randomly, it all comes from within you.

There is nothing to fear, when you understand that the outside is a reflection of your inside. As you hold the power, as you are aware of what you have going on and you can change it as you are in control of yourself. Instead of thinking you are out of control and these random situations can happen at anytime and it has nothing to do with you and you are worried about it happening.

Your vibe attracts your tribe.

For the sake of the subliminal, yes I agree, lets see what it can do first without adding more limiters.

So this is why bad things never ever happen to good and happy people?

Oh wait...

Law of attraction and vibration resonance are so misunderstood that they're usually worthless when an individual tries to self apply them.

I'll stay out of the AS topic, but this is just bad information. "Vibrational level" has absolutely nothing to do with how a person interacts and gets on in life. There are "low" vibration individuals that are walking saints in life, and "high" vibration individuals that would be considered the scum of the earth by many.

How do you know the "low" vibration individual are Saints or are even low vibration? How do you know the high vibration individuals are high vibration? You do not know what is going on inside of them. You don't know what they are vibing and what does it matter what other peoples opinions of yourself or of others actually mean anything?
Are speaking about negative fear based views from media and the average population? Only matters what the individual thinks about their self or what you think about yourself.

(09-19-2018, 06:21 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, since i was stonewalling 3.2 and did the break like you mentioned and no bloom or tid effects, do you think your progress with beast will help get past my stonewalling your subs?

Is there any way i can consciously help get the subconscious to execute the script or its just a matter of our subconscious wanting to resist it so strongly nothing can be done to change it until you find ways to get past those stonewalling issues?

(09-19-2018, 08:37 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 04:57 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 10:13 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 07:39 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-16-2018, 10:42 AM)Broski Wrote: Hey Shannon,

I've been running US/LM B for 34 days now and have not yet been seeing the results i'm after. Ilve been experiencing a TON of fear and anxiety while running g this, almost verging on panic attacks on a few occasions and feeling like i'm losing my mind. A lot of different worries, negative thoughts and emotions coming up. I have also recently started trying to meditate more rigorously a little ways into the run so not sure if that might be part of it as well. Do you think I should keep going or try to switch to version A?

So the first thing is to remember that no matter what suggestions I offer you, you can follow the instructions and be eligible for a refund, or you can disregard them and give that up. That is a choice you must be the one to make.

I recommend that you start analyzing your reactions to understand what is causing them, where they come from and what their origins are.

If you keep having negative thoughts come up, what are those thoughts specifically? Those thoughts are going to be like arrows fired from the cause of the resistance and fear: they will by their very nature point you back to what caused them.

What are they telling you? Why would you be having those thoughts and responses? Why are you afraid of success? Is it success you're afraid of, or something that will result from success? What do these things tell you about the underlying fears and causes of your reactions to this program?

WHY are you afraid of succeeding?

It would help me help you to know more specifically what your negative reactions are.

Alright I will try to do my best in answering these for you. The first major negative thought thats been coming up is fear of focusing on negative thoughts and emotions and bringing more of those things into my life. Then when I think those thoughts or feel those emotions is cause more fear and anxiety, which causes more fear and anxiety, ect ect. Quite the vicious cycle . Ever since I took a psychology class in high school and learned about the power of the mind and specifically this part covering how people that thought they were sick even though they weren't ended up making themselves sick, I have feared the mind and using it against myself, as dumb as. As dumb as it may sound to some, it is a VERY real fear to me and I have suffered greatly from it. I had some anxiety over this the following summer, but once I was back at school it didn't really come up for awhile. Fast forward a few years later and seeing something on tv triggered this fear in me again and I went into major anxiety and panic attacks over it for many months. I developed different chronic tensions and pressures in my body that took my focus off the mind and made me think I had some sort of physical condition wrong with me. I went to a plethora of different doctors and they couldn't find anything wrong, so im pretty sure the anxiety is what lead to it. I still see these tensions and pressure to this day many years later. I think this is my main fear I have been experiencing though with different variations of it, and has lead to most of the other negative thoughts, emotions and fear I've had during this time. Some other negative recurring thoughts have been fear of going insane, and fear of losing control. Why I am having them in response to the program is maybe because the success oriented programming triggers them, like the fears are popping up saying "We cant think positively and successfully with all this deep rooted fear surrounding this issue" Maybe i'm afraid of anything changing with my mind because I fear the power of it so. I don't know, I have consciously thought of different things like this before about the issue, but have never seemed to be able to fully get over it. Hope that helps

So basically you have a fear based feedback loop that you have focused on yourself, for infinite replay-ability. Congrats, you're afraid of yourself.

How many loops a day are you using USLM for?

I don't think there is a need to make fun of me/the situation. I am trying to be honest and open with you here and don't really appreciate that. It's not like I intentionally tried to create the situation and it hasn't exactly been pleasant. I have been doing 1 loop a day.

(09-19-2018, 12:53 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:42 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:07 AM)Greenduck Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Just curious: is there a script in DMSI that prevent for exemple a friends girlfriend to make a move (If in find her attractive that will say)? That would otherwise be a great way to avoid awkward situations...

No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

The guys who blame it sounds like guys who blame stuff.

On the other hand the guys who want it sound like they are too fearful.

I have to agree here with Sarge, though I will be careful in the way I say this. This isn't meant as a flame (which obviously would break the rules) and I hope it isn't taken that way. I'm just going to point out a few things:

(1) I remember when it was announced that the AS wouldn't be in 3.2 and it seemed like some of the forums were upset saying this would be a bad decision. Well, 3.2 came out without the AS and nothing bad happened that I have recalled to the people who actually executed (I would include myself there when I went on my trip). If a woman started acting uppity I know for myself I would just break contact with her and move on to the next woman. Its not that hard to do. When you have the power in the relationship, higher value, and know you have an abundance of options its not that hard to leave someone really. As for STDs/HIV I think some here will remember that I gave a complete chard on the chances of condom breaking (Which you should be wearing one anyway) and you sleeping with someone who has STDs/HIV is very stupidly low and is the chance of them having a sexual disease is highly depended on how many sexual partners they have had in the past.

Quote:(2) My rational is in align with Catman's pretty much. Lets worry about actually having everyone execute first before we waste power on something we aren't even sure we even need. If Crazy women start becoming a problem (which I don't know why you can't deal with that in the first place) then we can consider using some power for that. As someone else mentioned I rather have the power spent on trying to get these other men not to get in physical fights with me and persuade them to become co-operative instead. That seems to be a bigger problem (which has been said in journals for quite a while now) then having to deal with crazy women and the low chances of encountering someone with a sexual disease. Did you know that the Prevalence rate of HIV/AIDs in the US, for example, is only .30% of the population. So chances of a condom breaking ( seen anywhere from 10-15%) and you having sex with a person from that group (only .30% of the population) is stupidly low. For Europe its mostly even lower.

Quote:(3) If It comes to a point where it becomes a problem I would like to add a nice suggestion , similar to what I suggested the last time this subject came up, why not have some kind of "Spider sense" as it were. Where the subconscious notices that there is something wrong with this woman and then communicates to your conscious that there is something wrong with this particular person. It could just be an intuitive feeling that something is wrong with the person for example. At that point the user has the option to proceed or reject the person at their leisure. Problem is solved without stepping on people's toes. Granted, I could see a issue with that suggest as well. What if the subconscious resists by giving false positives? Though that could be said of the AS being used by resistance (haven't experienced it myself but Catman could have it right on this point).

(09-19-2018, 01:00 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Agree with DarkXedonias.

I even remember people harping on me for getting sexual with that herpes girl and yet I'm STD free. Not condoning my actions, rather pointing out that if you're careful you will be fine.


As for the fear of "drama". Come on guys, who here is an alpha male? If you consider yourself one then grow a spine and deal with the women as an alpha would. Alphas don't need anti-snipers.

(09-20-2018, 06:24 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:21 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, since i was stonewalling 3.2 and did the break like you mentioned and no bloom or tid effects, do you think your progress with beast will help get past my stonewalling your subs?

Is there any way i can consciously help get the subconscious to execute the script or its just a matter of our subconscious wanting to resist it so strongly nothing can be done to change it until you find ways to get past those stonewalling issues?

Beast is where I test new tech. The new tech being tested in B17 is very much intended to help people execute, primarily by getting them past fear. Stonewalling comes from fear, so if we can make the anti-fear modules work, then we should have execution. But the AF modules are very complex, and I need to understand how they are working in practice and if/what needs to be adjusted.

We've discussed several times that the way for the conscious to help generate execution is to do the following things:

1. Don't consciously resist. Some of you consciously resist simply because you want to see me fail, or "be right"/"prove you can't 'be controlled'" or "test how powerful my subliminals are". Which is ridiculous, since YOU PAID FOR THEM.
2. Communicate to your subconscious that you consciously and genuinely want to execute.
3. Try to understand and figure out what your subconscious is stuck on and why it is resisting, and help it understand why that is not/no longer a reason to resist.

(09-19-2018, 01:09 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [quote='Shannon' pid='205953' dateline='1537361949']

With each step, we find and correct more issues. Right now there is the issue of understanding what the fear removal modules are doing and making them work quickly enough for me to achieve design spec.

But so far, overall, B17 is performing beautifully - if perhaps working a little too well on the naturalizer aspect.

Quote:It is of such effectiveness at this time that it is making it hard for me to recognize certain factors and changes. That's the only issue.

[quote]Also, I wanted to ask since I'm curious, since you are working on 3.3 at the same time as testing out beast will you be putting in the 2nd/3rd part of the Magnus engine relatively soon? I remember you said that part will probably be the most time consuming part to transport to the skeleton script. Also, You have explained the concept behind reality bending but I don't remember any place where you mentioned the concept behind what the Magnus Engine does. Could you could give a little detail about it or the benefits of having it in a sub? I will understand if you can't give much info though because of trade secrets and all that.

(09-19-2018, 02:54 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:51 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:21 AM)Roy Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:58 AM)Kol Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:43 AM)Have at ye Wrote: I used to be a proponent of the anti-sniper, because I could see it work on ver. 3.1, but now I'm no longer - and it's not due to the fact that it would decrease the program's efficiency (it didn't).

I simply believe it to be unnecessary, given all the other safeties in place.

Also, when a person would have been affected by the AS heavily enough - and it's not turned on - they're only going to get the baseline anyway - and in case of any unwanted attention, I can deal with that on my own well enough (and so does anybody else, for that matter), I think.

Pretty much this. It makes life more exciting and "forces" you to be responsible yourself. Like now im feeling everyone being attracted to me. Also, the gf of a friend of mine is showing increasing IOIs, starstruck trance moments. I just dont do anything with her, because idgaf if something happens or not.

It might be also one of the reasons I feel DMSI 3.2 is stronger.

Getting STDs and rape charges doesn't make life exciting.Dealing with insane women doesn't make life better.Anti sniper is for extreme cases.

^^This. I have been for a while with a girl on chat who said she separated from her bf. But two days ago she sounded like there have been somehow together (again?). And somehow she said he has been very jealous and stuff and wanted my contact details and she gave him. Well, I didn't hear from that guy (maybe USLM saved me, lol) and I don't know what will happen but THAT is some of the situations I would like an anti-sniper for. Only for extreme cases, not this unhappiness stuff which was well meant but too vague and would probably lead to everyone inexperienced to some degrading results.

Ideally, one would get the goals of the program, with none of the more extreme drama.

I dread thinking about these kind of possibilities.

I honestly cannot tell which women are toxic and which aren’t, until I get to know them, and by then it could be too late to avoid drama.

I already got a false accusation against me from a woman I knew for about 4 years, and she seemed perfectly nice, friendly and goodwilled over those 4 years. It was a very hurtful shock to be called into a meeting with my manager (and manager’s manager) with nasty accusations against me.

This woman had no obvious red flags. Nothing about her said ‘crazy’.

(09-19-2018, 06:45 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:19 PM)K-Train Wrote:
Dealing with "drama" when it comes to women is almost always inevitable and something you'll have to deal with accordingly especially if you're talking about dealing with multiple women which is what I assume most guys. Is it something that would be cool NOT to have to deal with and have supportive women around you akin to what @mat422 said? Absolutely. No doubt...after DMSI has proven it can accomplish it's goals first.

/\ This.

I know for a fact my subconscious (and my conscious, if I'm honest) uses that as a good reason to not execute. Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.

Also, in terms of what Enki was saying "If only women were like..." he seems to be describing a GUY. GUYS are like that quite often, women are NOT it's just nature.

Quote:Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.

(09-19-2018, 09:51 PM)Djinnni Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 12:53 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: I rather have the power spent on trying to get these other men not to get in physical fights with me and persuade them to become co-operative instead.

Agreed - Can we extend this to actively 'cuckold' the partner (CTP)?

(09-20-2018, 06:31 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 12:53 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:42 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:07 AM)Greenduck Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 05:10 AM)Shannon Wrote: No. Not even the anti-sniper will currently do that. Although I could set up the AS to do that. But first, do we really want the anti-sniper or not? Those who don't want it are convinced it is responsible for reducing the program effectiveness. The rest are convinced it saves them from all sorts of nasty situations.

The guys who blame it sounds like guys who blame stuff.

On the other hand the guys who want it sound like they are too fearful.

I have to agree here with Sarge, though I will be careful in the way I say this. This isn't meant as a flame (which obviously would break the rules) and I hope it isn't taken that way. I'm just going to point out a few things:

(1) I remember when it was announced that the AS wouldn't be in 3.2 and it seemed like some of the forums were upset saying this would be a bad decision. Well, 3.2 came out without the AS and nothing bad happened that I have recalled to the people who actually executed (I would include myself there when I went on my trip). If a woman started acting uppity I know for myself I would just break contact with her and move on to the next woman. Its not that hard to do. When you have the power in the relationship, higher value, and know you have an abundance of options its not that hard to leave someone really. As for STDs/HIV I think some here will remember that I gave a complete chard on the chances of condom breaking (Which you should be wearing one anyway) and you sleeping with someone who has STDs/HIV is very stupidly low and is the chance of them having a sexual disease is highly depended on how many sexual partners they have had in the past.

You can't know what the AS was or was not doing because we don't have sufficient execution to reveal that yet.

Quote:(2) My rational is in align with Catman's pretty much. Lets worry about actually having everyone execute first before we waste power on something we aren't even sure we even need. If Crazy women start becoming a problem (which I don't know why you can't deal with that in the first place) then we can consider using some power for that. As someone else mentioned I rather have the power spent on trying to get these other men not to get in physical fights with me and persuade them to become co-operative instead. That seems to be a bigger problem (which has been said in journals for quite a while now) then having to deal with crazy women and the low chances of encountering someone with a sexual disease. Did you know that the Prevalence rate of HIV/AIDs in the US, for example, is only .30% of the population. So chances of a condom breaking ( seen anywhere from 10-15%) and you having sex with a person from that group (only .30% of the population) is stupidly low. For Europe its mostly even lower.

The world is not the United States. AIDS is not the only dangerous STD.

Quote:(3) If It comes to a point where it becomes a problem I would like to add a nice suggestion , similar to what I suggested the last time this subject came up, why not have some kind of "Spider sense" as it were. Where the subconscious notices that there is something wrong with this woman and then communicates to your conscious that there is something wrong with this particular person. It could just be an intuitive feeling that something is wrong with the person for example. At that point the user has the option to proceed or reject the person at their leisure. Problem is solved without stepping on people's toes. Granted, I could see a issue with that suggest as well. What if the subconscious resists by giving false positives? Though that could be said of the AS being used by resistance (haven't experienced it myself but Catman could have it right on this point).

This works great, in theory., Then you have reality, where people do things like Sarge did, where they get horny, they stop thinking and they do things that they would not necessarily have done under rational thought. Most guys do that at least once in their lives, and it can result in some pretty nasty stuff. Sarge got very lucky. So Spidey Sense doesn't matter for shit if you're sufficiently hormonal and horny. That's why I didn't use that in the first place.

(09-20-2018, 03:29 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 03:01 AM)Roy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 12:37 AM)CatMan Wrote: I recall Shannon actually saying it's possible the AS was possibly being warped, in my case and others, in order to resist the program. Hence why *I* said it. It wasn't something I ever thought of until then, Roy.

I've also been in situations with psycho women...like the one that ruined my rep for 7-8 years and got my arm broken. I'm also able to see those are extreme cases and can more readily see signs to steer clear now. And don't want to run the risk of giving yet another avenue of escape before this thing actually works for the majority. Make it actually work, THEN dial it back. Seems obvious.

I agree with Nox on this. Same issue and talking points again...bit of a shame as that just shows the program hasn't gone further in actual results since...maybe the next one will though. We'll see.

If the anti sniper is being warped it's still is the result of other factors that warp it.It's better to deal with the warping factors rather than removing the safeties built into the program.

Considering the amount of damage that can be cause by STD,false allegations or crazy women it's not worth pulling out all the safeties to get more sex.As The technology will improve it will deal with more resistance and fears.In that case it's better from that reason to keep the anti sniper,to see how and why it's being warped.

I believe there are numerous safeties already included in the script even absent the AS. They are plentiful enough that, IIRC, it turned out that these can be used as a way of weaseling out of executing the reality bending in the program by a fearful subC.

(09-20-2018, 04:17 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:13 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:04 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 03:36 AM)Fluffy Wrote: In my opinion, you only attract "fearful" situations when you are putting out fearful vibes. In other words if you are coming from a happy, healthy, positive place dominantly you wont actually attract these bad feeling situations to begin with.

You are what you put out. If you do attract these kinds of women that are not so good feeling then there must be something about you that is attracting them in the first place. Fear would do it, but also worrying about these things consistently or remembering past events and pushing against it happening again. It could also be not necessarily related to women but just a similar unwanted, negative bad feelings that bring more of that shit to you.

I think it is much more healthy and powerful to take responsibility for whatever you attract to you, as something that you have going on inside yourself.

Like attracts like, birds of a feather flock together.

As long as you know what you are putting out, you wont have to worry about attracting crazy chicks and what not because you wont even be a match anyway.

Crazy chicks that would cry rape and all this negative BS are on a much lower vibrational wave length and you would only attract that situation, if you was a match to that.

Externally nothing happens randomly, it all comes from within you.

There is nothing to fear, when you understand that the outside is a reflection of your inside. As you hold the power, as you are aware of what you have going on and you can change it as you are in control of yourself. Instead of thinking you are out of control and these random situations can happen at anytime and it has nothing to do with you and you are worried about it happening.

Your vibe attracts your tribe.

For the sake of the subliminal, yes I agree, lets see what it can do first without adding more limiters.

So this is why bad things never ever happen to good and happy people?

Oh wait...

Law of attraction and vibration resonance are so misunderstood that they're usually worthless when an individual tries to self apply them.

I'll stay out of the AS topic, but this is just bad information. "Vibrational level" has absolutely nothing to do with how a person interacts and gets on in life. There are "low" vibration individuals that are walking saints in life, and "high" vibration individuals that would be considered the scum of the earth by many.

You are entitled to you opinion or (Belief) as am I

I completely agree. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions. I just wanted to point out incorrect information.