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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - findingme - 11-12-2019
(11-12-2019, 12:38 PM)sushi521 Wrote: I was concerned that our subconscious would still consider it a harm in the process and tries to limit you from becoming too successful. Hope this clarifies.
Sushi, IMO, it would depend on your mental state completely whether you saw it possibly dangerous to others to actually succeed. Your original post sounded fearful of having success, as I have been in that spot for decades. I constantly saw myself as either a victim of other's actions, or an angry (meaning 'scared') perpetrator of bad actions. Not enjoying either role in any true way, but knowing nothing else, I've avoided being successful CONSTANTLY.
I've been using UMS for over a month now, and it's consistently challenging my "No! I don't want to!". For me, playing victim to imaginations of hurting others was a big reason. As time goes on, I'm realizing at my core I was afraid of losing my relationship with my Mom, who was on government assistance at least 40 of my years with her. I thought like a kid for so long since reality never checked me.
And I'm writing you since I see parts of me in your writings. UMS instructs, but our subconscious decides based on what we've been feeding it. Before IML, I was a puppet for my emotions. But having done E2, Universal Detox, LTU5, and now UMS, I am continuously getting the same message which is in E2 and E3 directly: I'm not a victim anymore, and I can choose good things in my life and take responsibility for doing so. That's freeing!
The fears and concerns you shared are very real to you, as they were for me. And I'm liking having a sense of my own power now, and control over my decisions. It will work out for you in your decisions. UMS 'may' hit hard initially if you pick it up unless you've done some emotional clearing already; E3 in it is geared a little more aggressively than E3 solo. But I'd say trust your gut in this decision. Your intuition doesn't lie.
Thanks for having the courage to share your concerns here.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - EvolvingPhoenix - 11-12-2019
You're right, Shannon. It seems I need to love myself enough to treat myself better, as has been the case in the past. I'm afraid to do what you suggest though. Maybe because I'm worried that if I let go of whatever umhealthy beleifs or programming I'm holding onto, I'll stop playing shitty stupid games and will therefor "lose" them. Or something. I'm not sure. I don't know. I have some DEEP insecurities programmed by years of negative experiences sending the message "You're inadequate, and this is why X, Y and Z" and so I don't want to let go of that programming because then I worry that I'll never be able to prove that statement wrong by accomplishing X Y and Z because I'll no longer pursue X Y amd Z. But all of that is based on the premise of "You're inadequate" and so long as that premise fuels it all, X Y and Z is out of reach anyway. I dunno. It's hard to explain. Thank you for reminding me that I deserve better treatment though. I'll just carpetbomb then bloom 7 days on and off like I've BEEN doing then, because I don't know what other regimen (or whatever you call it) works better. Thank you for your honest feedback. It really gave me some much needed perspective. Thank you.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Paul1131 - 11-12-2019
(11-12-2019, 02:44 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: You're right, Shannon. It seems I need to love myself enough to treat myself better, as has been the case in the past. I'm afraid to do what you suggest though. Maybe because I'm worried that if I let go of whatever umhealthy beleifs or programming I'm holding onto, I'll stop playing shitty stupid games and will therefor "lose" them. Or something. I'm not sure. I don't know. I have some DEEP insecurities programmed by years of negative experiences sending the message "You're inadequate, and this is why X, Y and Z" and so I don't want to let go of that programming because then I worry that I'll never be able to prove that statement wrong by accomplishing X Y and Z because I'll no longer pursue X Y amd Z. But all of that is based on the premise of "You're inadequate" and so long as that premise fuels it all, X Y and Z is out of reach anyway. I dunno. It's hard to explain. Thank you for reminding me that I deserve better treatment though. I'll just carpetbomb then bloom 7 days on and off like I've BEEN doing then, because I don't know what other regimen (or whatever you call it) works better. Thank you for your honest feedback. It really gave me some much needed perspective. Thank you.
Hey EP. The tone and content of this post shows improvement already. It almost sounds like a different person talking even since last week. I can sense a new confidence. Good job.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - EvolvingPhoenix - 11-13-2019
(11-12-2019, 03:53 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:Thanks Paul. Although I'm not feeling very confident...(11-12-2019, 02:44 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: You're right, Shannon. It seems I need to love myself enough to treat myself better, as has been the case in the past. I'm afraid to do what you suggest though. Maybe because I'm worried that if I let go of whatever umhealthy beleifs or programming I'm holding onto, I'll stop playing shitty stupid games and will therefor "lose" them. Or something. I'm not sure. I don't know. I have some DEEP insecurities programmed by years of negative experiences sending the message "You're inadequate, and this is why X, Y and Z" and so I don't want to let go of that programming because then I worry that I'll never be able to prove that statement wrong by accomplishing X Y and Z because I'll no longer pursue X Y amd Z. But all of that is based on the premise of "You're inadequate" and so long as that premise fuels it all, X Y and Z is out of reach anyway. I dunno. It's hard to explain. Thank you for reminding me that I deserve better treatment though. I'll just carpetbomb then bloom 7 days on and off like I've BEEN doing then, because I don't know what other regimen (or whatever you call it) works better. Thank you for your honest feedback. It really gave me some much needed perspective. Thank you.
Hey EP. The tone and content of this post shows improvement already. It almost sounds like a different person talking even since last week. I can sense a new confidence. Good job.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - samba99 - 11-13-2019
So I just purchased UMS, did one loop. 2 hours later I'm feeling very relaxed. It's like a feeling you get from hours of meditation. This is awesome. I feel something radiating through me but I do not know what it is. It's very calming tho
I hope this feeling last. If it does, I would be very happy with the sub with just this effect.
I'm planning to use it for 1 day on, 7 days off. During my 7 days off, I may or may not use Dmsi. If I feel the women attention is fading, then I'll run one loop during my days off.
This is at my own risk.
For now, I'm enjoying the relaxing effect from UMS!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 09:09 AM)samba99 Wrote: So I just purchased UMS, did one loop. 2 hours later I'm feeling very relaxed. It's like a feeling you get from hours of meditation. This is awesome. I feel something radiating through me but I do not know what it is. It's very calming tho
I hope this feeling last. If it does, I would be very happy with the sub with just this effect.
I'm planning to use it for 1 day on, 7 days off. During my 7 days off, I may or may not use Dmsi. If I feel the women attention is fading, then I'll run one loop during my days off.
This is at my own risk.
For now, I'm enjoying the relaxing effect from UMS!
Using them both at once is a waste of time. They will heavily interfere with each other and you won't get what either is capable.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - samba99 - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 09:13 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:09 AM)samba99 Wrote: So I just purchased UMS, did one loop. 2 hours later I'm feeling very relaxed. It's like a feeling you get from hours of meditation. This is awesome. I feel something radiating through me but I do not know what it is. It's very calming tho
I hope this feeling last. If it does, I would be very happy with the sub with just this effect.
I'm planning to use it for 1 day on, 7 days off. During my 7 days off, I may or may not use Dmsi. If I feel the women attention is fading, then I'll run one loop during my days off.
This is at my own risk.
For now, I'm enjoying the relaxing effect from UMS!
Using them both at once is a waste of time. They will heavily interfere with each other and you won't get what either is capable.
Maybe, that's why I said at my own risk. I have previous history of using Dmsi/USLM and it was working great.
Please don't mention the eligibility of refund, as I never ask for refunds....
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 09:29 AM)samba99 Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:13 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:09 AM)samba99 Wrote: So I just purchased UMS, did one loop. 2 hours later I'm feeling very relaxed. It's like a feeling you get from hours of meditation. This is awesome. I feel something radiating through me but I do not know what it is. It's very calming tho
I hope this feeling last. If it does, I would be very happy with the sub with just this effect.
I'm planning to use it for 1 day on, 7 days off. During my 7 days off, I may or may not use Dmsi. If I feel the women attention is fading, then I'll run one loop during my days off.
This is at my own risk.
For now, I'm enjoying the relaxing effect from UMS!
Using them both at once is a waste of time. They will heavily interfere with each other and you won't get what either is capable.
Maybe, that's why I said at my own risk. I have previous history of using Dmsi/USLM and it was working great.
Please don't mention the eligibility of refund, as I never ask for refunds....
I'm not worried about refunds, I just want you to get the results it can do. Those two programs, not a match.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Griffin - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 09:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 07:46 AM)THolt Wrote: I’m looking forward to the new one.
UMS has worked wonders for me but in a very subtle way. It has made me aware of how important investing regularly is.
When the time comes, I'll look at what you guys have come up with on the UMS2 ideas thread and add any ideas that are possible to add, and genuinely add value to the program. For the time being I really don't see that it needs more features, like I said. I think it just needs to get past resistance better and faster.
It's a pretty nice program. I love it.
Shannon, just an idea, as it might make you some money and please costumers!
what about skipping adding any adding of ideas, or maybe just one or Two that really benefits the program and then just upgrade the skeleton script and FRM, etc. This might save you heaps of time, and when FRM 4.9 is out, it might have enough impact to break people's resistance more.
When people are executing better its also easier to see what is missing and what too add in the future and release an UMS3.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Catman - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 11:56 AM)Griffin Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 07:46 AM)THolt Wrote: I’m looking forward to the new one.
UMS has worked wonders for me but in a very subtle way. It has made me aware of how important investing regularly is.
When the time comes, I'll look at what you guys have come up with on the UMS2 ideas thread and add any ideas that are possible to add, and genuinely add value to the program. For the time being I really don't see that it needs more features, like I said. I think it just needs to get past resistance better and faster.
It's a pretty nice program. I love it.
Shannon, just an idea, as it might make you some money and please costumers!
what about skipping adding any adding of ideas, or maybe just one or Two that really benefits the program and then just upgrade the skeleton script and FRM, etc. This might save you heaps of time, and when FRM 4.9 is out, it might have enough impact to break people's resistance more.
When people are executing better its also easier to see what is missing and what too add in the future and release an UMS3.
That would greatly help DMSI too, of which I can't wait for FRM 4.9 among other execution improvements... We really seem to need that soon, looks like it's stalled out again.
I'll post a journal entry today to respond to you, Shannon. I've had to take some time to try to work it out in words, and been busy with other things.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 11:56 AM)Griffin Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 07:46 AM)THolt Wrote: I’m looking forward to the new one.
UMS has worked wonders for me but in a very subtle way. It has made me aware of how important investing regularly is.
When the time comes, I'll look at what you guys have come up with on the UMS2 ideas thread and add any ideas that are possible to add, and genuinely add value to the program. For the time being I really don't see that it needs more features, like I said. I think it just needs to get past resistance better and faster.
It's a pretty nice program. I love it.
Shannon, just an idea, as it might make you some money and please costumers!
what about skipping adding any adding of ideas, or maybe just one or Two that really benefits the program and then just upgrade the skeleton script and FRM, etc. This might save you heaps of time, and when FRM 4.9 is out, it might have enough impact to break people's resistance more.
When people are executing better its also easier to see what is missing and what too add in the future and release an UMS3.
That's pretty much what I had in mind to do originally. I really don't think it needs a lot of new features.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 12:19 PM)CatMan Wrote:(11-13-2019, 11:56 AM)Griffin Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 07:46 AM)THolt Wrote: I’m looking forward to the new one.
UMS has worked wonders for me but in a very subtle way. It has made me aware of how important investing regularly is.
When the time comes, I'll look at what you guys have come up with on the UMS2 ideas thread and add any ideas that are possible to add, and genuinely add value to the program. For the time being I really don't see that it needs more features, like I said. I think it just needs to get past resistance better and faster.
It's a pretty nice program. I love it.
Shannon, just an idea, as it might make you some money and please costumers!
what about skipping adding any adding of ideas, or maybe just one or Two that really benefits the program and then just upgrade the skeleton script and FRM, etc. This might save you heaps of time, and when FRM 4.9 is out, it might have enough impact to break people's resistance more.
When people are executing better its also easier to see what is missing and what too add in the future and release an UMS3.
That would greatly help DMSI too, of which I can't wait for FRM 4.9 among other execution improvements... We really seem to need that soon, looks like it's stalled out again.
I'll post a journal entry today to respond to you, Shannon. I've had to take some time to try to work it out in words, and been busy with other things.
I take it FRM 4.8 made some progress you could identify as FRM's work then?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Catman - 11-13-2019
(11-13-2019, 12:45 PM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 12:19 PM)CatMan Wrote:(11-13-2019, 11:56 AM)Griffin Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 07:46 AM)THolt Wrote: I’m looking forward to the new one.
UMS has worked wonders for me but in a very subtle way. It has made me aware of how important investing regularly is.
When the time comes, I'll look at what you guys have come up with on the UMS2 ideas thread and add any ideas that are possible to add, and genuinely add value to the program. For the time being I really don't see that it needs more features, like I said. I think it just needs to get past resistance better and faster.
It's a pretty nice program. I love it.
Shannon, just an idea, as it might make you some money and please costumers!
what about skipping adding any adding of ideas, or maybe just one or Two that really benefits the program and then just upgrade the skeleton script and FRM, etc. This might save you heaps of time, and when FRM 4.9 is out, it might have enough impact to break people's resistance more.
When people are executing better its also easier to see what is missing and what too add in the future and release an UMS3.
That would greatly help DMSI too, of which I can't wait for FRM 4.9 among other execution improvements... We really seem to need that soon, looks like it's stalled out again.
I'll post a journal entry today to respond to you, Shannon. I've had to take some time to try to work it out in words, and been busy with other things.
I take it FRM 4.8 made some progress you could identify as FRM's work then?
I'll expand more on that and some other observations in my journal thread. Making it now.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - THolt - 11-13-2019
Yeah
(11-13-2019, 12:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 11:56 AM)Griffin Wrote:(11-13-2019, 09:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:(11-13-2019, 07:46 AM)THolt Wrote: I’m looking forward to the new one.
UMS has worked wonders for me but in a very subtle way. It has made me aware of how important investing regularly is.
When the time comes, I'll look at what you guys have come up with on the UMS2 ideas thread and add any ideas that are possible to add, and genuinely add value to the program. For the time being I really don't see that it needs more features, like I said. I think it just needs to get past resistance better and faster.
It's a pretty nice program. I love it.
Shannon, just an idea, as it might make you some money and please costumers!
what about skipping adding any adding of ideas, or maybe just one or Two that really benefits the program and then just upgrade the skeleton script and FRM, etc. This might save you heaps of time, and when FRM 4.9 is out, it might have enough impact to break people's resistance more.
When people are executing better its also easier to see what is missing and what too add in the future and release an UMS3.
That's pretty much what I had in mind to do originally. I really don't think it needs a lot of new features.
Is this the case with USLM 4.2 as well? Just a new FRM and skeleton script