(05-12-2017, 08:27 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(05-12-2017, 06:58 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: I wanted to chime in because so many recommend pua to catman

Pua will give you only a short superficial boost, sooner or later all puas become defeated and settle down with a ***** See mystery, Kyle trouble etc

Reading books on pua is like reading books on martial arts its just like 10% theory boost but it alone will never make you a good fighter

Amen Dzemoo.

I'll never forget when I saw David Deangelo's, excuse me, Eben Pagan's, wife.

It seems to mostly paper over cracks. Or, most of them are simply internet marketers, very good at pinging guy's insecurities to make money. I lost a lot of faith in them after seeing "conquests" or their women, and not feeling attraction towards them at all. In Eben's case, that was absolutely true, but others as well. And many only spammed the narrative about clubbing, drinking, approaching etc., nothing about actually dating or going beyond that initial stage. It seemed to be so shallow, no real substance to WHAT to do beyond that, so I figured they either had no clue beyond that, or that wasn't as easy to sell and stopped wasting my time.

There's only a few I found that actually had results or a vibe I found truly genuine. And I had one on one personal coaching with many high end ones, so I had close range perspective most don't. Brent Smith seems to be DMSI personified, if I had to recommend ONE at this point that seems to make sense and seems to be sustainable or believable. I went through a period awhile ago where I downloaded a ton of his free videos and put them in a folder for viewing once in awhile to help build the mindset. Overall now, I just steer clear of it all to keep things simple and I don't have nearly the drive to consume info to pursue women etc. anymore since starting this program. I tend to let DMSI do it's thing, and simply continue putting myself around attractive women and when/if it breaks through with them, I'll know I've moved to the next level. I've been patient awaiting that since starting a year ago, maybe it will happen soon with V3.2, or earlier, or with V3.3, I don't know.

Quote:I'll never forget when I saw David Deangelo's, excuse me, Eben Pagan's, wife.

Quote:No man lets be pc here guys!

(05-13-2017, 05:41 AM)Travis Wrote: Yeah Elliot's wife is like WTF!? I mean, good for her.. She scored well above her league.

I don't want to judge, because if they are into each other then thats awesome, but its shocking because someone that charismatic coule choose any girl.

Reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg and his wife. Again not to insult the girl, its just a surprising choice on his part lol

(05-13-2017, 05:15 AM)Benjamin Wrote:

Quote:No man lets be pc here guys!

I happen to like personal computers sir!

It's kind of funny that I can predict the reaction some people probably had to people saying similar things to us..

"Oh but you're shallow, she has more than that, she is an enlightened spiritual woman, do you just care about looks".

All that dumb shit.

Just because I want somebody who is attractive doesn't mean I don't want them to have other qualities, but i'm not going to ignore the fact that someone just isn't attractive to look at even if they have the best personality in the world and 'other qualities'. But feminists try to make us feel guilty about it going straight to the extreme of "You care about nothing else" when we all know that's not true.

Also if anyone has followed Elliot Hulse. I used to be really into his stuff, he was such a powerful guy the way he presented himself and such and kept talking about his wife.

I seen the photos and she looks absolutely horrible, worse than David Deangelos wife. And I remember seeing hundreds of comments going "Oh she's so beautiful" and all this shit and anyone who told the truth was flamed.



Someone has to have some of both, attractiveness to me plus other qualities. But she is downright ugly and I don't think anyone here could say they find her attractive. Yet he made all these videos of advice on how to meet women and such and worked with RSD briefly. WTF.



Interesting, after barely posting anything I don't know why i'm harping on this.. maybe DMSI is working on something as today I feel pretty low and just want to rant and some hate has definately been coming up.

Quote:But I think a lot of this has to do with beliefs, like Ben mentioned. There are thousands of movies out there where it's always the hot attractive woman being a bitch, dumb, vain, evil, shallow, etc. It's been drilled into our heads that it's what goes with attractive women. So it's like a filter that makes guys perceive that a less attractive woman = more humble, nicer, safer, smarter, etc. Which obviously isn't true. Attractive or not attractive, doesn't mean anything because it's just a person.

(05-13-2017, 09:44 AM)Shannon Wrote: In my experience, it's a rare "hottie" that you encounter who is not those things. I've dated all types, and worked with all types. I'll take an average looking woman I can trust over a woman who is hellbent on making me miserable any day.

Maybe they know something you don't... indeed.