(06-20-2017, 04:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(06-20-2017, 01:20 PM)Ricardo Wrote: Yes but it doesn't work, therefore something serious needs to be done or you may as well shelve the whole thing.

You keep making the mistake of thinking that because it doesn't work for a small subset of people who don't want it to work, that it doesn't work for anyone else, and therefore, that "it doesn't work".

This is not a binary situation, Ricardo, and I may never be able to get 100% success with it. But I have some ideas on how to move forward. After 3.2, I'm going to presume that they really really REALLY want to fail, and if they can and do resist 3.2, then I will let them.

So you make your choice and deal with the consequences, because after 3.2, I'll be very likely to be working on 6G development stage 2 instead of worrying about people who would rather die/be right/have it their way/complain/criticize/be miserable/whatever than succeed.

(06-20-2017, 04:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: You keep making the mistake of thinking that because it doesn't work for a small subset of people who don't want it to work, that it doesn't work for anyone else, and therefore, that "it doesn't work".

This is not a binary situation, Ricardo, and I may never be able to get 100% success with it. But I have some ideas on how to move forward. After 3.2, I'm going to presume that they really really REALLY want to fail, and if they can and do resist 3.2, then I will let them.

So you make your choice and deal with the consequences, because after 3.2, I'll be very likely to be working on 6G development stage 2 instead of worrying about people who would rather die/be right/have it their way/complain/criticize/be miserable/whatever than succeed.

(06-15-2017, 06:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: (this is a response to Jake and is largely irrelevant to this discussion so since it's long I edited that out for focus.

...I have not seen too many people who are as fearful and resistant as you are, but like CatMan, your experience only tells me we are not finished yet. That's why I keep going.

(06-20-2017, 06:51 PM)CatMan Wrote: Okay Shannon...I know the Dzemoo thing may have upset you, but two posts about denigrating people who have dutifully used the sub, been giving good feedback, been good members to the forum, kept their faith no matter how frustrating things have been, and haven't seen results and damning them to obscurity because of your irritation with the Dzemoo thing is too much now. I know every one needs to vent, but all it will do is cause a lot of anxiety over being the baby thrown out with the bath water.

I'm now very concerned due to this post that you're going to cut this cord at 3.2...and all of us who aren't Chaos are going to be screwed and all of our time contributing to this program will be wasted. As I don't see anyone but him getting sexual access as theorised the program can deliver, most here seem to be a part of the "small subset of people" not getting sexual access from it's use.

I mean, how can you post something like this twice today...not once but twice...but post something like THIS only a few days ago:

(06-20-2017, 06:51 PM)CatMan Wrote: Shannon, maybe the Dzemoo thing upset you. But, cutting all of us but Chaos loose and stopping DMSI at 3.2 regardless of results...because of the Dzemoo thing is crazy, doesn't seem like you to give up at all, and could be detrimental to the business. I'd be concerned about buying another product again, knowing that I could be hung out to dry on a whim. Doesn't inspire much confidence in things going forward. If the belief comes to pass that people will not get what they pay for, that could be very detrimental. I suspect you know this already from what I've read from you before, with how much you value transparency and trust etc. and that this is simply nerves talking.

I myself don't believe this program being able to make others you find sexually attractive, sexually attracted to you and aggressively pursue you to have sex, is capable of working in the real world. Like you said before on this, it's so far removed from my and most other men's realities so it's tough to truly believe in. But, I didn't buy it because of that stuff, I bought it because of YOU. I believe in YOU...not it per se. I'm sure in time that will prove to be a smart choice when DMSI works for us and I'm a believer as a result, whether that is V3.2 or V3.9. If I didn't believe in you, I would've either quit long ago or never even bothered with another attraction sub after SM3.

All the best, Shannon. Try to realise that it's a minority that cause these feelings in you, most of us are grateful for the work and support your progression to success. I think you can do it, we are telling you things to patch, so each version SHOULD be getting closer and closer. Just like you say, "until there's nothing left to do but execute".

It'd be a shame to abandon everything, as we are getting closer and closer to landing on the moon...

(06-20-2017, 08:05 PM)K-Train Wrote: @Catman:

Off the top of my head I can think of about 2-3 guys who executed and achieved the design goal (besides Chaosvrgn). Aventus did it once (he lost his virginity), I believe Eternity achieved the design goal as well, and there's a couple other guys who did as well but I can't remember. Either way, as me and you discussed, that number of guys executing and achieving the design goal is most certainly not exceeding the number of guys who are either a) stonewalling b.) getting some results but not the design goal and c.) the guys who are literally steps away from reaching design goal but keep sabotaging themselves.

I don't want to keep derailing Swisston's journal but if there are ANY guys who achieved the design goal of DMSI please come forward in the DMSI's discussion thread in the product discussion section!

(06-21-2017, 07:41 AM)eternity Wrote: I think those who "aren't seeing results" are just unable to perceive subtle patterns in behavior that indicate the program is working.

I experienced SOLID and UNDENIABLE IRREFUTABLE evidence, after being back on DMSI for ONE DAY, that the program works. Y'all saw what heavysm wrote the other day. This chick was creaming at the thought of him, and he had NO IDEA until someone brought it to his attention.

I recognize how girls are behaving differently towards me now on dimsee (versus when i was on MIR for 10 days and MHS for 30 days). After switching off dimsee and back on for the 3rd time, I started seeing patterns in women behavior that can only be attributed to the sub. something is most definitely going on in these women, even though they don't actively seduce me. This is why I'm finding it near conclusive that women have an insane amount of affected side resistance preventing them from taking action -- action which goes against everything that shapes their worldview.

It's indeed a choice. A DECISION. You want results? You have to choose to allow yourself to see them. And if you can't detect these subtle patterns (not everyone is capable of this, don't worry), you have to trust 100% that the subliminal will do what it's supposed to do. Get out of the way, and let your subconscious do its thing

(06-21-2017, 07:41 AM)eternity Wrote: This is why I'm finding it near conclusive that women have an insane amount of affected side resistance preventing them from taking action -- action which goes against everything that shapes their worldview.