(09-25-2020, 11:11 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon when you can please can you respond to this: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion-Thread-Vol-5?pid=238973#pid238973

I hope that link there works. Also since E4 is now coming out (or is now out) then does this in anyway change anything ive said in the post or that you were saying?

Thank you

Quote:My take away from this seems to be and please you or @Shannon correct me if im wrong im just being honest on how im understanding things. so in order of how they are stated...

a) Perhaps try another way around this instead of going after procrastination itself. This makes complete sense to me but in a way because ive tried other subs and the only things i noticed were some dreams, im unsure if this is yet the wise step for me. If I hadnt tried other subs such as E2 promising the wall etc then I would jump at another sub, im just being sure im spending my money and time in the best way and simply not jumping on the next sub to be released in the "hope" it works today. ive done that and then got sad.

b) UMOP3. Shannon will be very interested in how this affects me and so will I as I want it to work but also to give Shannon the best feedback via my journals so he can figure me and it out lol I think a wise question to ask is when will UMOP3 be released, I believe shannon said end of this year that means december 31st latest so even if january or february even that gives me around 3-4months. If I bought OF that would null the money back. Im not fussed about the money back though if it works, but 8months is its user time for it to be effective, and so any point in starting it to then stop for UMOP3 and thus for its work to maybe reverse back if it did to anything? and yes if I started I would want to jump onto UMOP3 but that depends on if Shannon believes that to be a wise move. How could I not jump on UMOP3 when its released, its too tempting not to lol Hope that made sense.

c) "OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly." My take away from this was that 5.75.3G should work for someone like me as resistant as I seem to be. So I thought well wait for this version then and then get it and since UMOP3 will be this said version with the latest FRM and it should in theory be out around Dec-Feb then as explained above wait for this.

So thats why im thinking wait for UMOP3, its not procrastination as im ready to hit play and get going. If You, Shannon and others can chime in it would help cos then ill get OF if that is still the wiser option for sure I just dont see why yet?

anyone at all can offer their pov then please do as its all taken with gratitude.

thanks

(09-25-2020, 11:17 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 11:11 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon when you can please can you respond to this: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion-Thread-Vol-5?pid=238973#pid238973

I hope that link there works. Also since E4 is now coming out (or is now out) then does this in anyway change anything ive said in the post or that you were saying?

Thank you

You can wait for UMOP, or you can run OF.  I don't think E4 is what you need, really, but it's also not going to make things worse if you run it.  OF and E4 both require 8 months.

(09-25-2020, 11:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: Jake said:

Quote:My take away from this seems to be and please you or @Shannon correct me if im wrong im just being honest on how im understanding things. so in order of how they are stated...

a) Perhaps try another way around this instead of going after procrastination itself. This makes complete sense to me but in a way because ive tried other subs and the only things i noticed were some dreams, im unsure if this is yet the wise step for me. If I hadnt tried other subs such as E2 promising the wall etc then I would jump at another sub, im just being sure im spending my money and time in the best way and simply not jumping on the next sub to be released in the "hope" it works today. ive done that and then got sad.

b) UMOP3. Shannon will be very interested in how this affects me and so will I as I want it to work but also to give Shannon the best feedback via my journals so he can figure me and it out lol I think a wise question to ask is when will UMOP3 be released, I believe shannon said end of this year that means december 31st latest so even if january or february even that gives me around 3-4months. If I bought OF that would null the money back. Im not fussed about the money back though if it works, but 8months is its user time for it to be effective, and so any point in starting it to then stop for UMOP3 and thus for its work to maybe reverse back if it did to anything? and yes if I started I would want to jump onto UMOP3 but that depends on if Shannon believes that to be a wise move. How could I not jump on UMOP3 when its released, its too tempting not to lol Hope that made sense.

c) "OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly." My take away from this was that 5.75.3G should work for someone like me as resistant as I seem to be. So I thought well wait for this version then and then get it and since UMOP3 will be this said version with the latest FRM and it should in theory be out around Dec-Feb then as explained above wait for this.

So thats why im thinking wait for UMOP3, its not procrastination as im ready to hit play and get going. If You, Shannon and others can chime in it would help cos then ill get OF if that is still the wiser option for sure I just dont see why yet?

anyone at all can offer their pov then please do as its all taken with gratitude.

thanks

UMOPv3 will liklely include FRM 4.9 or later.  I don't know exactly when it will be out, probably months from now given my current schedule and queue.  You can wait if you like, or you can run something in the mean time that would otherwise help with making all subs work better, which would be OF.  The rest is up to you.  There are valid arguments in both directions.

(09-25-2020, 11:39 AM)Zane Wrote: @Jake2015 Get "OF-Subliminal" and use it.

(09-25-2020, 12:49 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: Quick Question for @Shannon and all please.

I bought a Samsung S10 Phone and wanted to know if any of you use it or know whether it has stereo speakers please? If not no problem, ill use my external speakers connected to it but if it is stereo it would make listening during the day perhaps easier.

Thank you

(09-25-2020, 01:05 PM)tolgaocal80 Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 12:49 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: Quick Question for @Shannon and all please.

I bought a Samsung S10 Phone and wanted to know if any of you use it or know whether it has stereo speakers please? If not no problem, ill use my external speakers connected to it but if it is stereo it would make listening during the day perhaps easier.

Thank you

according to gsmarena :
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s10-9536.php

yes it is stereo. and seems like a good speaker.

(09-25-2020, 12:00 PM)Bignoise Wrote: I’m currently 3 months long into OF but E4 sounds promising and I think I can benefit of some of its goals. Not minding the refound (I would never ask for it, I know how this works), can you please @Shannon comment your thoughts in using both at the same time and how could it be done? Thanks in advance.

(09-25-2020, 12:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 11:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: Jake said:

Quote:My take away from this seems to be and please you or @Shannon correct me if im wrong im just being honest on how im understanding things. so in order of how they are stated...

a) Perhaps try another way around this instead of going after procrastination itself. This makes complete sense to me but in a way because ive tried other subs and the only things i noticed were some dreams, im unsure if this is yet the wise step for me. If I hadnt tried other subs such as E2 promising the wall etc then I would jump at another sub, im just being sure im spending my money and time in the best way and simply not jumping on the next sub to be released in the "hope" it works today. ive done that and then got sad.

b) UMOP3. Shannon will be very interested in how this affects me and so will I as I want it to work but also to give Shannon the best feedback via my journals so he can figure me and it out lol I think a wise question to ask is when will UMOP3 be released, I believe shannon said end of this year that means december 31st latest so even if january or february even that gives me around 3-4months. If I bought OF that would null the money back. Im not fussed about the money back though if it works, but 8months is its user time for it to be effective, and so any point in starting it to then stop for UMOP3 and thus for its work to maybe reverse back if it did to anything? and yes if I started I would want to jump onto UMOP3 but that depends on if Shannon believes that to be a wise move. How could I not jump on UMOP3 when its released, its too tempting not to lol Hope that made sense.

c) "OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly." My take away from this was that 5.75.3G should work for someone like me as resistant as I seem to be. So I thought well wait for this version then and then get it and since UMOP3 will be this said version with the latest FRM and it should in theory be out around Dec-Feb then as explained above wait for this.

So thats why im thinking wait for UMOP3, its not procrastination as im ready to hit play and get going. If You, Shannon and others can chime in it would help cos then ill get OF if that is still the wiser option for sure I just dont see why yet?

anyone at all can offer their pov then please do as its all taken with gratitude.

thanks

UMOPv3 will liklely include FRM 4.9 or later.  I don't know exactly when it will be out, probably months from now given my current schedule and queue.  You can wait if you like, or you can run something in the mean time that would otherwise help with making all subs work better, which would be OF.  The rest is up to you.  There are valid arguments in both directions.

Phew! thank you for clearing that up for me Shannon.

So my decision now is to get and run OF  and ill make a journal for this to help with any feedback at all.

When UMOP3 is out then ill get back to you to see by that time what is the best route to take.

Will UMOP3 deal with laziness and lack of drive whether due to poor sleep/personal habits or not?

thank you again

edit: Purchased OF 5.75, waiting for paypal to clear.

@Shannon what is the length of 1 loop please? its a 6loop listen so will help me if I know please. thank you again

(09-25-2020, 03:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 12:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 11:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: Jake said:

Quote:My take away from this seems to be and please you or @Shannon correct me if im wrong im just being honest on how im understanding things. so in order of how they are stated...

a) Perhaps try another way around this instead of going after procrastination itself. This makes complete sense to me but in a way because ive tried other subs and the only things i noticed were some dreams, im unsure if this is yet the wise step for me. If I hadnt tried other subs such as E2 promising the wall etc then I would jump at another sub, im just being sure im spending my money and time in the best way and simply not jumping on the next sub to be released in the "hope" it works today. ive done that and then got sad.

b) UMOP3. Shannon will be very interested in how this affects me and so will I as I want it to work but also to give Shannon the best feedback via my journals so he can figure me and it out lol I think a wise question to ask is when will UMOP3 be released, I believe shannon said end of this year that means december 31st latest so even if january or february even that gives me around 3-4months. If I bought OF that would null the money back. Im not fussed about the money back though if it works, but 8months is its user time for it to be effective, and so any point in starting it to then stop for UMOP3 and thus for its work to maybe reverse back if it did to anything? and yes if I started I would want to jump onto UMOP3 but that depends on if Shannon believes that to be a wise move. How could I not jump on UMOP3 when its released, its too tempting not to lol Hope that made sense.

c) "OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly." My take away from this was that 5.75.3G should work for someone like me as resistant as I seem to be. So I thought well wait for this version then and then get it and since UMOP3 will be this said version with the latest FRM and it should in theory be out around Dec-Feb then as explained above wait for this.

So thats why im thinking wait for UMOP3, its not procrastination as im ready to hit play and get going. If You, Shannon and others can chime in it would help cos then ill get OF if that is still the wiser option for sure I just dont see why yet?

anyone at all can offer their pov then please do as its all taken with gratitude.

thanks

UMOPv3 will liklely include FRM 4.9 or later.  I don't know exactly when it will be out, probably months from now given my current schedule and queue.  You can wait if you like, or you can run something in the mean time that would otherwise help with making all subs work better, which would be OF.  The rest is up to you.  There are valid arguments in both directions.

Phew! thank you for clearing that up for me Shannon.

So my decision now is to get and run OF  and ill make a journal for this to help with any feedback at all.

When UMOP3 is out then ill get back to you to see by that time what is the best route to take.

Will UMOP3 deal with laziness and lack of drive whether due to poor sleep/personal habits or not?

thank you again

edit: Purchased OF 5.75, waiting for paypal to clear.

@Shannon what is the length of 1 loop please? its a 6loop listen so will help me if I know please. thank you again

I don't remember.  You'll have to download it and see.  I can't remember the length of the loops of each program, you know.

(09-25-2020, 12:48 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(09-25-2020, 11:39 AM)Zane Wrote: @Jake2015 Get "OF-Subliminal" and use it.

Thank you Zane and to others that helped me out here, yes im going to now get OF atleast until UMOP3 is out or ill just stick with it for the 8months - lets see