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RE: DMSI 3.3 - Benjamin - 08-24-2018 Very interesting. On 3.2 when I was exploring in writing why I was resisting/what do I fear. In the end it come up to 'everyone will leave me, i'll end up homeless' but then I went a bit deeper than that and in my mind that would mean death. And a few times I explored this it ended up in "I will die". Weird how a goal like DMSI can have this fear of death coming up. But I guess fear of death is a pretty central, deep thing that could be connected to alot. RE: DMSI 3.3 - Infinite - 08-25-2018 edited RE: DMSI 3.3 - Shannon - 08-25-2018 (08-24-2018, 07:06 AM)K-Train Wrote:(08-23-2018, 08:44 PM)K-Train Wrote:(08-23-2018, 05:04 PM)kingpill Wrote: -SNIP I answered this where it was posted in my journal discussion. RE: DMSI 3.3 - Shannon - 08-25-2018 (08-24-2018, 09:42 AM)kingpill Wrote:(08-24-2018, 09:10 AM)Kol Wrote: This talk of death is really interesting. Couple of times on my 3.2 run I had it, only to "release" and fully "let it in". When im walking on the streets tho, there are times im feeling stiffled, and get in my head so to say. Its almost like night and dsy like my subc says "oh hell no" depending on the "danger levels" ny subc perceives as. You are framing the process as "hunting or being hunted". That's artificially limited thinking. It isn't hunting or being hunted, it's being so attractive that others want you in a desirable way, and they come to you, offer themselves to you and attempt to interest you in having sex with them. Where is the threat in that? Framing is everything. You guys don't have to equate everything with violence, dominance and threat. RE: DMSI 3.3 - Oversoul - 08-25-2018 (08-25-2018, 07:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:(08-24-2018, 09:42 AM)kingpill Wrote:(08-24-2018, 09:10 AM)Kol Wrote: This talk of death is really interesting. Couple of times on my 3.2 run I had it, only to "release" and fully "let it in". When im walking on the streets tho, there are times im feeling stiffled, and get in my head so to say. Its almost like night and dsy like my subc says "oh hell no" depending on the "danger levels" ny subc perceives as. Yeah, looking back, I see it. RE: DMSI 3.3 - lano1106 - 08-25-2018 (08-25-2018, 07:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: You are framing the process as "hunting or being hunted". That's artificially limited thinking. It isn't hunting or being hunted, it's being so attractive that others want you in a desirable way, and they come to you, offer themselves to you and attempt to interest you in having sex with them. Where is the threat in that? I agree with the reframe that you have done here Shannon. It makes total sense. My mindset is similar to 'hunting/hunted' except that I use a different wordings. Concerning having sex, there are 2 possible roles. Active and passive. In the 'how to become alpha' book that you recommend to read to the AM users, there is a concept with which is in line with my beliefs: Women usually assume the passive role when it comes to sex. That means that the man have to lead up to having sex For that reason, I have a hard time conceiving that for a male DMSI user, he can just sit back and wait women that he finds attractive to come over and suggest sex like you wrote several times here in the forum. IOW, what is written in the alpha book that maps how I perceive reality and how you say DMSI users should behave appears to be in contradiction. My expectation of DMSI was that by being irresistible, picking up chicks would be easy as a piece of cake because they would be super receptive to my advances since they are already attracted to me. I know by doing it myself too often. I am not explicitly expressing my sexual attraction to women. It is quite easy for me to imagine that the women finding me irresistible don't act on their desires. It must be even harder for them since this is reinforced by stupid social norms that says that women should have the passive role. The only context in which I can conceive women coming over to you and suggest sex is from social circle where you have solid social proof going for you and you have the opportunity to see the woman on several occasions. Otherwise, in case of cold approach, I think it necessary for a man to lead to having sex. OTOH, to be honest with the DMSI program, my first successful seduction with DMSI from the very few that I had, a girl that I met in a wedding, I have been very explicit verbally and non-verbally about my sexual interest in her (maybe the alcohol helped removing my inhibitions) and once that was done. SHE did pursue me. It is as if once you express yourself sexually, the woman is able to put you in the potential sexual partner category and this allow her express her true nature to you without the social mask. I guess that I have a hard time getting rid of the social conditioning concerning sexuality about what is appropriate/inappropriate to do with strangers. That might also be a question of deeply ingrained beliefs about women. If you see them as very sexual as they are. You communicate subconsciously your expectations on their behavior with you and they naturally adjust. I am wondering if there is something along those lines inside DMSI... (ie: All women are naughty. If you believe it, it will become true. Think that they are good girls, and they will be good girls with you...) For me, those 2-3 points are why I am on AM now: 1. Improve my social life 2. Improve my leadership skills 3. Be able shamelessly and freely express my desires 4. Be willing to take more risks in my social interactions with women I am starting to realize that the AM/SM combo is more in line with how I want to become... Only when this goal is achieved and that I become that man, DMSI would be like the cherry on top of the sundae... And yes I can relate to what kingpill wrote about having excuses to not execute. When I'm not expressing my sexual interest to a woman, I have this inner dialogue providing me 'justifications' for why I shouldn't... RE: DMSI 3.3 - SargeMaximus - 08-26-2018 I’ve been seduced on 3.2, and have been approached by women all my life so it is definitely possible. We just need DMSI to ramp up the quantity of Quality (looks) women we seduce and the “they seduce us into sex multiple times/as much as we allow” needs working too. RE: DMSI 3.3 - lano1106 - 08-26-2018 (08-26-2018, 07:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: I’ve been seduced on 3.2, and have been approached by women all my life so it is definitely possible. We just need DMSI to ramp up the quantity of Quality (looks) women we seduce and the “they seduce us into sex multiple times/as much as we allow” needs working too. Well, I think that the word 'usually' in Women usually assume the passive role when it comes to sex. That means that the man have to lead up to having sex is important in the context. Also, the 'how to become alpha' book has been written over 10 years ago. I feel like society is much more open minded regarding to sexuality than it was back then. So there is probably much less slot shaming fear than there was then. but still, even if there is more women able to assume the active role leading to sex today than there was 15 years ago, there are probably a LOT of women who cannot (probably the ones of my age...). So more power to you if you can assume comfortably the active role. That is an AM trait that I am seeking to fully integrate... RE: DMSI 3.3 - SargeMaximus - 08-26-2018 Fair enough. I’m not after women my age myself tho ![]() RE: DMSI 3.3 - Oversoul - 08-29-2018 Weird experience today: Im at the hospital and theres a hot blond milf nurse. She was doing some tests on me and I could either hear her thoughts or control her thoughts. Let me explain: As she was doing tests on me, I started getting thoughts in 3rd/1st person perspective such as 'hes hot, sex, i can do it' Then it progressed into these exact thoughts: 'you can have him, I can have him, he has a c**k, grab it, how do i do it, I can do it, it will work, ill make it work" At the exact moment the "he has a c**k" thought came into my head, she looked at my crotch smirking. There were other thoughts that came in which correlated exactly with the way she was acting at the exact moment. Crazy. Anyone else had this happen? Maybe it's my pisces/12th house heavy chart thats making this happen RE: DMSI 3.3 - Zane - 08-29-2018 I see,... You have finally attained "Porn-Nirvana" level. RE: DMSI 3.3 - StridingStrider - 08-29-2018 (08-29-2018, 01:27 PM)kingpill Wrote: Weird experience today: LMAO, what happened next? RE: DMSI 3.3 - Oversoul - 08-29-2018 (08-29-2018, 01:57 PM)StridingStrider Wrote:(08-29-2018, 01:27 PM)kingpill Wrote: Weird experience today: Lol nothing, she finished her shift and left. She only had one procedure to do with me. (08-29-2018, 01:44 PM)Zane Wrote: I see,... Getting there it seems. lol RE: DMSI 3.3 - Kol - 08-29-2018 (08-29-2018, 01:27 PM)kingpill Wrote: Weird experience today: Yes. Tbh, Im pretty sure DMSI acts that way through execution aswell in how it communicates and acts, or rather, how I act. When its on and this shit happens more and more just spontaneous even for lack of better terms. Im not so sure if it is hearing their thoughts or if it is highly sexual charged intuition, giving it an irresistable pull and draw in. At times I do feel having direct "permission" to travel in their minds like it amplifies. It happens. It like sniping all day err'day lol. Its like hearing what they are thinking. This opens a whole new view to me tbh. Nothing surprises me anymore. |