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RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - maxx55 - 04-19-2018
Just venting some more.
It's time like these that I really feel like it's all hopeless. Every aspect of my life has noticeably improved with tangible differences except for things relating to girls. It's extremely irritating.
The aura had prime time to shine last weekend and this entire semester in my yoga class, but no. Girls weren't all over me and none expressed a direct interest in me. It is still objectively the same as pre-DMSI and this is despite the times I pro-actively went to talk to the girls I found attractive. This is complete bullshit and it really seems like girls are a big fat waste of time and effort. It's so stupid to be on the fucking hamster wheel doing what you can to have a sex life with no actual result. It's frustrating as fuck and I'm sick of feeling frustrated as fuck. It also irritates me that no one else seems to have the same experience, no one else seems to feel sexually frustrated (especially not the girls, but even the guys I know who aren't having any sex). It makes me wonder at times what's wrong with me and why I feel that way. Then I think about how opposites should attract or how similar people should attract, but NONE of that shit even seems to apply to me. I'm just sick of all of it.
But despite this long ass rant, yeah I'll keep listening to the sub. Even if it seems pointless. Now that I think about it, it may be time for that one day off that comes every 14 days, I'll see.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - Shadow2200 - 04-19-2018
To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - SargeMaximus - 04-19-2018
(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - Tigerismyspirit - 04-20-2018
(04-19-2018, 08:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...
I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - Determined - 04-20-2018
(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.
The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.
The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - SargeMaximus - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 05:19 AM)Razib1988 Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...
I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.
Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.
There is no such thing as a premature move.
I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.
Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.
So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.
In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.
(04-20-2018, 05:38 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.
The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.
The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.
What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - Determined - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 05:49 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:19 AM)Razib1988 Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...
I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.
Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.
There is no such thing as a premature move.
I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.
Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.
So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.
In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.
(04-20-2018, 05:38 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.
The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.
The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.
What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?
No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.
The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - SargeMaximus - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 06:08 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:49 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:19 AM)Razib1988 Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...
I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.
Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.
There is no such thing as a premature move.
I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.
Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.
So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.
In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.
(04-20-2018, 05:38 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.
The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.
The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.
What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?
No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.
The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.
I see, and I agree with you.
Influence is fascinating, and I love it. I don't nearly have the level I want, however.
I've wondered if the value we have isn't high enough yet, and if the pain/consequence for NOT sleeping with us is high enough as well.
I believe people need a carrot AND a stick to be moved, but the stick is always more important. Tony Robbins says that people will take action to avoid pain more readily than to gain pleasure.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - Determined - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 06:53 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:08 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:49 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:19 AM)Razib1988 Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...
I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.
Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.
There is no such thing as a premature move.
I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.
Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.
So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.
In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.
(04-20-2018, 05:38 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-19-2018, 08:15 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it
It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.
The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.
The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.
What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?
No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.
The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.
I see, and I agree with you.
Influence is fascinating, and I love it. I don't nearly have the level I want, however.
I've wondered if the value we have isn't high enough yet, and if the pain/consequence for NOT sleeping with us is high enough as well.
I believe people need a carrot AND a stick to be moved, but the stick is always more important. Tony Robbins says that people will take action to avoid pain more readily than to gain pleasure.
Carrot and Stick, it doesn't matter. If the user is ready, they'll execute.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - SargeMaximus - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:53 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:08 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:49 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:19 AM)Razib1988 Wrote: I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.
Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.
There is no such thing as a premature move.
I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.
Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.
So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.
In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.
(04-20-2018, 05:38 AM)Determined Wrote: It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.
The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.
The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.
What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?
No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.
The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.
I see, and I agree with you.
Influence is fascinating, and I love it. I don't nearly have the level I want, however.
I've wondered if the value we have isn't high enough yet, and if the pain/consequence for NOT sleeping with us is high enough as well.
I believe people need a carrot AND a stick to be moved, but the stick is always more important. Tony Robbins says that people will take action to avoid pain more readily than to gain pleasure.
Carrot and Stick, it doesn't matter. If the user is ready, they'll execute.
I was talking about the affected.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - Determined - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 09:31 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:53 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:08 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 05:49 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.
There is no such thing as a premature move.
I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.
Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.
So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.
In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.
What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?
No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.
The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.
I see, and I agree with you.
Influence is fascinating, and I love it. I don't nearly have the level I want, however.
I've wondered if the value we have isn't high enough yet, and if the pain/consequence for NOT sleeping with us is high enough as well.
I believe people need a carrot AND a stick to be moved, but the stick is always more important. Tony Robbins says that people will take action to avoid pain more readily than to gain pleasure.
Carrot and Stick, it doesn't matter. If the user is ready, they'll execute.
I was talking about the affected.
Same goes for the affected. You can't force anyone to do anything. They have to make the choice, free will prevails.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - SargeMaximus - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 09:48 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 09:31 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Determined Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:53 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-20-2018, 06:08 AM)Determined Wrote: No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.
The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.
I see, and I agree with you.
Influence is fascinating, and I love it. I don't nearly have the level I want, however.
I've wondered if the value we have isn't high enough yet, and if the pain/consequence for NOT sleeping with us is high enough as well.
I believe people need a carrot AND a stick to be moved, but the stick is always more important. Tony Robbins says that people will take action to avoid pain more readily than to gain pleasure.
Carrot and Stick, it doesn't matter. If the user is ready, they'll execute.
I was talking about the affected.
Same goes for the affected. You can't force anyone to do anything. They have to make the choice, free will prevails.
Of course, the sky is also blue don't you know?
The point is: persuasion in DMSI can be stronger than it is.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - maxx55 - 05-08-2018
As of yesterday, I'm now on hybrid. I will continue as long as it doesn't interfere. I have a lot to get done in the coming months so if I feel it holds me back I will go back to masked or stop listening.
If you were wondering, no, DMSI hasn't shown itself to be effective.
RE: My Musings (DMSI 3.2) - maxx55 - 05-25-2018
I've been on the 3.2B hybrid for a bit. I'm not seeing the goals of the program being achieved. I may switch to 3.2A since some that version works better for some.
As of right now, it would be great to have some helpful feedback. I took a glimpse around the forum and the only actual suggestion for getting the program to work is to "fully accept and execute the script". Hell, I'll gladly accept what it's supposed to do, that's the reason I spent my money on it and my time listening to it. But until it is broken down, step by step exactly how to "fully accept and execute the script", it doesn't really mean anything to me. I've been doing all I know how. I can set goals in my life in every other area and steadily see the consistent progress I make. I have not been able to see this on DMSI despite my efforts.