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RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - SargeMaximus - 11-07-2017
(11-07-2017, 10:17 PM)Ars0n1sT Wrote: Lol thanks for your response Sarge. Can anyone expand upon this?
I can, I just didn't want to give unsolicitated advice.
(11-07-2017, 10:17 PM)Ars0n1sT Wrote: Offer some insight or tips?I don't know what kind of anxiety or panic attacks you're having, but mine have always come in the form of hypochondriac or fear of death.
The hypochondriac I counter by telling myself it's far more likely that there's nothing wrong with me. Over the years I just got used to it and now I can pretty much ignore the unfounded fears.
Fear of death is a harder one. I don't have it all the time, but I do every so often and it sucks. I REALLY don't want to die.
I guess some things you just gotta accept (like death) and find a way to deal.
(11-07-2017, 10:17 PM)Ars0n1sT Wrote: I can't put it in words or make sense of the source of the anxiety. Its coming from all angles. Also, NoFap... fuuck
Yeah I can relate. Everything is getting tossed around internally for me on DMSI (not so much now that I'm back on AM). Just gotta weather the storm.
Try to figure out WHY you have the anxiety, and deal with it as best you can.
For me, a lot of anxiety came from realizing (instead of ignoring?) certain truths.
For example, I had anxiety about my social skills, so I got a social skills coach and a ton of books, watched youtube videos, did everything I could to get better. Now the anxiety isn't as bad because I'm seeing progress.
Same with my physical issues. I'm skinny, and I'm afraid if I get good with girls, guys will bully or attack me. The solution there is to go to the gym, bulk up, learn martial arts, but also not to be looking for fights and learn how to peacefully co-exist with people so fighting is a last resort. Staying away from violent people is also a good solution.
Stuff like that.
Hope that helps.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - Ars0n1sT - 11-08-2017
Cool, I appreciate that Sarge. Good info.
Starting to get gay thoughts. The fuck? I feel like this sub is testing me. No hate, I have gay friends, but I like chicks. Very weird.
Still anxiety but less so.
Still can't think worth shit. Might be no fap.
Lots of random looks. Airport, Vegas, people stealing glances.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - Benjamin - 11-08-2017
Quote:Starting to get gay thoughts.
That's the issue I have with the 'gender/sexuality neutral' programming and why I most likely won't be using 3.2.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - SargeMaximus - 11-08-2017
(11-08-2017, 09:23 PM)Benjamin Wrote:Quote:Starting to get gay thoughts.
That's the issue I have with the 'gender/sexuality neutral' programming and why I most likely won't be using 3.2.
I've had the gay thoughts too. If DMSI gets me sex with the girls I desire tho, thoughts like that are a small price to pay.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - Determined - 11-08-2017
I wonder if gay dudes get straight thoughts on DMSI lol
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - SargeMaximus - 11-08-2017
(11-08-2017, 10:42 PM)Determined Wrote: I wonder if gay dudes get straight thoughts on DMSI lol
Hahaha!
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - enoch - 11-09-2017
Sometimes I catch myself admiring masculine traits in men. When I do, I think to myself that I should surprised that I have thoughts like this but I'm not. I don't recall ever being like this. Consciously though I wish had some of those features.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - Zane - 11-09-2017
(11-09-2017, 04:30 AM)enoch Wrote: Sometimes I catch myself admiring masculine traits in men. When I do, I think to myself that I should surprised that I have thoughts like this but I'm not. I don't recall ever being like this. Consciously though I wish had some of those features.
We are attracted to what we don't have. So if u like something or someone its probably cause of their skills, features, personality or Aura. If u gain that skill or personality then u will loose interest in that person. Tell me if i am wrong
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - SargeMaximus - 11-09-2017
(11-08-2017, 09:15 PM)Ars0n1sT Wrote: Cool, I appreciate that Sarge. Good info.
No problem man, glad you found it good in some way.
I just had to address this because I see it as a common theme among many on the forum and perhaps I can help. Hope you don't mind...
(11-08-2017, 09:15 PM)Ars0n1sT Wrote: Starting to get gay thoughts. The ****? I feel like this sub is testing me. No hate, I have gay friends, but I like chicks. Very weird.
Having gay thoughts is no different than having hypochondriac thoughts IMO. They're just thoughts, and don't mean anything.
I've had many thoughts throughout my life that I had cancer, brain tumors, heart attacks, ruptured intestines, and all manner of bodily ailments that turned out to be false (as in: upon getting checked by the doctors, we found out I'm physically healthy. Plus, I didn't die when I thought I was going to, so that further proves it was all in my head).
I think a lot of guys take these gay thoughts to mean they might be gay or might be turning gay, but it's the same thing as hypochondriach stuff: it's not real! It's a thought! Nothing more!
Also, if you meditate at all (I used to a lot) you'll discover that thoughts are just a natural product of the mind. Much like saliva is a natural product of the mouth. The mind just produces thoughts, it doesn't mean they're "real" or "true".
Hope that helps.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - Zane - 11-10-2017
Having gay thoughts is just a sign that sexual healing is happening on many levels .
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - DarkPlouf - 11-11-2017
Not necessarily. May be the healing, may be something else entirely different.
And I agree with Sarge, I wouldn't freak out because of that. They are just thoughts as he says.
I had gay thoughts for a long period in the past but that didn't turn me gay.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - SargeMaximus - 11-11-2017
(11-11-2017, 01:39 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote: Not necessarily. May be the healing, may be something else entirely different.
And I agree with Sarge, I wouldn't freak out because of that. They are just thoughts as he say.
I had gay thoughts for a long period in the past but that didn't turn me gay.
I think what everyone needs to remember is to not be a victim. This includes not being a victim of yourself.
RE: I Am a Sinner. | DMSI 3.1 - Ars0n1sT - 11-13-2017
Good thoughts in here, thanks guys.
My take on the gay thing... Sure, I can admire a guy for having an attractive trait because I myself value that trait, whether it be looks or character traits. But, I have no desire to perform a gay act. What is weird to me is that I generally don't think about homosexual acts so to me its odd that those thoughts pop up now. Does that make me gay, no, I think all guys think about it from time to time, but still I find it odd that the thoughts now exist in my mind whereas before they did not. To echo what I heard from others, they are just thoughts and nothing more.
I took a 4 day break from DMSI while I was in vegas. I think one day I listened for 2 loops with headphones and that was it all trip. I think I'm feeling a bloom of sorts because I actually feel sexy today instead of anxious like I had been feeling. I think the other factor for me to note to myself is that I was listening for too many loops and have been treating it like a 5g sub. I was getting tired and anxious. so... I'll stick with 2 loops per day for awhile until I see a reason not to.
Today everyone was bending backwards to help me out. EVERYONE. At work, in the tech lab, at 2 stores... I felt a sense of power within myself. Good stuff. I was running around a lot and sweating so maybe it is my enhanced natural pheromones from DMSI, or maybe the aura thing... who knows.