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RE: Nofap Journal - Catman - 10-16-2015
Well...this changes things.
I, like others, had NO idea you have a girlfriend already. I also had no idea you have some religious issue. I feel like these are important pieces of the puzzle, I'm surprised they were only mentioned now.
Now, it makes WAY more sense that you masturbate. Essentially, you're being c*ckteased on a consistent basis. Having an available girl around, but for some reason, not being able to have sex with her. All of that pent up sexual energy has to go somewhere!
Just curious, is the religious thing to do with you, or with her? If it's you, you may need to weigh it against what you seem to naturally want to do and decide if it's truly right for you, and what she may want sexually too but is currently being denied. If it's her, you may have to decide if it's worth it to continue this as it's obvious there's a mismatch of ideals already. Seems like something to ponder. Also, if it's her, I know women will throw out crap like that always, but when a famous rich guy etc. wanted to sleep with them, it's amazing how much of those "rules" or "religious practises" fall by the wayside. So, it may be a way to have a man around, and not be sexual with him to keep her options open, using that as an excuse. Just being honest as I've encountered all of that before.
Now there's no mystery why you masturbate IMO. I don't feel it's necessarily an addiction either now. Unless you did this long before this current girl, I don't know. I feel it's a sex drive that's healthy and active, and having an attractive girl right in front of it, but being c*ckteased and unable to do anything about all the sexual energy. And let's say the masturbation "addiction" gets cured, then what if you can't have sex with her? Is this some thing where you need to marry her before you get to have sex? What if it turns out she isn't a virgin so she hasn't been following this religious thing? Won't you find out too late, after you've married her? Are you a virgin? Lots of new questions now but I think it's possibly no longer a case of masturbation addiction. These new facts would've been very useful early on
. Anyway, those are some thoughts, Zane. Hope things go well for you.
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 10-18-2015
Well, how do I put this...
I started masturbating even before I knew about sex. I thought I invented it (LOL) and didn’t even know what it was called. I didn’t have a computer or internet at that time. My parents were kind of religious, even though they didn’t follow most of the teachings. But they were aware of porn and stuff on the internet, so there were no computers or laptops when I was young. I praise them for this because if the internet had been around, I would’ve definitely become a chronic porn addict. Also, I was the clown of my class and was bullied by both teachers and classmates since I was the only Muslim in the class, and many others were Hindus. They would mock me, call me names, and sometimes complain to teachers about things I didn’t even do. Then 9/11 happened, and they started calling me a terrorist, and that’s when I really felt alone. During break time, I used to eat alone. It was emotional trauma for me; I thought no one loved me. There was this girl I liked, and I even dreamt about her once, but my reputation in class was a mess.
When I discovered masturbation by accident (no one taught me), I found my escape, my "painkillers." I remember before I discovered masturbation, I would watch girls and get erections, but there wasn’t any urge, just the desire to get to know them and spend time with them. But masturbation changed that. Slowly, I became addicted to NSFW images I’d find in newspapers and magazines, and I would masturbate to them.
I found my soulmate when I was in university. My sister used to talk about me to her friends a lot. They all wanted to meet me, but I refused to meet them. They saw my picture on WhatsApp and went nuts. Every time I’d go to school to pick up my sister, her friends would ask me to take off my helmet so they could see me in person.
One of her friends fell in love with me, told her parents about me, and said she wanted to marry me in the future. Her mom and my mom became best friends, and through them, they found out everything about me. Eventually, the girl’s mom told me that her daughter wanted to marry me. When my mom told me about this, I was shocked as hell. At first, I denied the relationship and was totally against it. I was like, "No! No! No!!" She used to come and visit me with her parents, make tea for me, and would even enter my room when I was alone. I’d tell her in a low voice, "Please get out of my room, I need to study," and she’d smile and leave... But I denied the relationship. I don’t know what I was scared of (Love, I guess).
Then one day, she messaged me on WhatsApp and started talking about random things. We chatted for about 2 hours, and then she said, "I love you." The moment she said this, I don’t know what happened, but something clicked. After that, everything changed. I began questioning myself and my beliefs, asking myself if this was the will of God (sorry for the religious talk). Slowly, I noticed that as my bond with her grew stronger, I started losing interest in soft-core porn. Within 3 months of our relationship, I was amazed when I’d visit Reddit’s NSFW section. The naked girls I saw no longer turned me on. I started feeling sorry for them. The way I looked at them changed. I saw through their souls. Whenever I saw any NSFW or porn by accident, I’d think, *"They’re doing this because they might have emotional or financial problems."* No girl or woman will sell or show their skin unless they have some kind of intention or goal behind it. Maybe they don’t know any other way to fulfill their emotional void, and they aren’t even aware of it. It’s all a subconscious issue. We often do things in life driven more by emotions than logic. Those girls in porn and movies are going through this too, and they try to hide these emotions through their ego (or what some might call "bitchiness"). But in the end, it’s all the same. (These are just my opinions.)
As our relationship grew stronger, I told her that I was addicted to masturbation. She supported me and said that I could overcome this addiction. I thought I would lose her after sharing this with her, but it was the complete opposite.
I honestly don’t care about her past — whether she was in a relationship before or not, or if she’s a virgin or not. I admit, when I first met her, I found her so attractive that I thought about doing physical stuff with her, including sex. There were moments when we did everything except for sex, BJ, oral, or anal — anything that involved my penis. I could see in her eyes that she wanted me, but she was also scared, and so was I. But I told her not to fear because I wouldn’t do anything that would go against her beliefs or break the trust of her parents. Her parents really trust me a lot, especially her mother.
I was a bit wrong when I mentioned that I was doing this because of religion. No, it’s not about that. It’s just me. I’m like this — it’s something deep within.
I know people will say that sex is healthy and good. Yes, it is. I won’t deny it. But there are also other ways to be healthy, and no one has died because of a lack of sex (LOL). Monks live without it.
Sacrifices have to be made to gain something valuable.
Call me old-fashioned, but I’m like this. I hope you all understand. This is a completely different situation.
Sorry if you find me a little odd.
In the end, I’m grateful that @Shannon made this sub. I’m sure I’ll get out of this soon.
**PEACE**
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 10-21-2015
I don't know what's happening, but it’s been almost 4 days, and I hardly have any urge to fap.
Yesterday, I had a huge urge, but then my mom gave me some work, and I got busy with that. Afterward, I took some sleeping pills and went to bed. But after about 2 hours, my gf messaged me and begged me to talk. I told her, "It’s already 1 am, go to sleep," but she said, "No, please talk to me." I was like, "Okay."
We started talking about random stuff, and then I told her that I love her so much and how much I missed her... She also said a lot of things, and it was awesome. I also noticed that during this time, my urges just faded away, and I felt filled with this blissful state of mind. ?
I feel at peace and relaxed with everything most of the time, especially the way I deal with people. This sub is doing an awesome job. Maybe I should run it for 12 months. ?
RE: Nofap Journal - Spareness - 10-21-2015
(10-21-2015, 04:48 AM)zainuu163 Wrote: This Sub is doing an awesome job. Maybe I should Run it for 12 months
Be careful, if you use this subs too long. You'll not be able to have an erection.
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 10-22-2015
(10-21-2015, 11:46 PM)wahyu Wrote:(10-21-2015, 04:48 AM)zainuu163 Wrote: This Sub is doing an awesome job. Maybe I should Run it for 12 months
Be careful, if you use this subs too long. You'll not be able to have an erection.
HAHA... Nah, man, that's not gonna happen.
In fact, my balls are fuller, and my erections are much harder. Also, I don't know why, but I feel so sexy. I do have urges, but it’s so easy to control them... Damn easy.
I can’t believe I was addicted for like 13 years, and now with Shannon’s subs, I’m gonna kick this habit for good. I mean, it feels so good to control something that’s been controlling you for such a long time.
RE: Nofap Journal - Catman - 10-22-2015
Haha I told you that you'd beat it if you kept at it!!!! AMAZING.
Keep at it, at least for a few more months. You've had this habit a long time, you want to make sure it's gone forever.
Actually, I'm so impressed this sub worked I may give it a second look. I've been interested in it since it came out but I was curious to see reports from other users. This is fantastic news.
I'm so happy for you!! Keep going.
RE: Nofap Journal - Breeze - 10-27-2015
Hey Zainu, how is it going? I am curious and at the same time very excited to read your progress since it is going to be my next sub.
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 10-28-2015
(10-27-2015, 07:47 AM)diamiteo Wrote: Hey Zainu, how is it going? I am curious and at the same time very excited to read your progress since it is going to be my next sub.
It’s good, bro. I’m feeling better, but I still have a long way to go. I do relapse, but every relapse is kind of different, because when I relapse, I’m like, "Well, that’s weird—never experienced this before."
RE: Nofap Journal - Catman - 10-31-2015
Hi zainuu163!
I just wanted to check in and see how you are doing.
I hope all is well and the sub is making more and more of an impact, friend.
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 11-04-2015
Well, I guess it’s time for some updates:
1. I’ve somehow reduced skin picking. Whenever I used to relapse, I’d get somewhat tense and start picking my skin due to anxiety or stress. It has reduced by 60%.
2. For the past few days, I’ve noticed that one of my friends keeps visiting me for an unknown reason and takes me outside to meet other people and visit places. This never happened before. Guess it’s my subconscious manifesting things. (I always avoided going outside, but somehow he’s forcing me to socialize and visit places.)
3. Time seems to be moving too slow... I thought it was 9:30 pm, but it was only 7:30 pm.
4. I really like this sub because I’m kinda thirsty for it, just like water. I want to listen to it daily for 8 hours.
5. I’m somewhat comfortable with women now (30%). I mean, at first, I used to blame them for wearing slutty clothes and would judge them, but now I don’t really care. Let them wear what they want—it doesn’t affect me anymore. I’m immune to those garbage thoughts now. Don’t get me wrong, I was always taught to avoid judging people; it’s God’s job, not mine. But still, I judged. Now, I hardly care about anyone. I feel free. Let them do what they want, and I’ll do what I want.
I still struggle to cross Day 4, and I have no idea when I’ll be able to cross. I guess this sub really needs a long run. Issues are being resolved one by one, and it’s mainly the emotional issues I suffer from.
Has anyone used any addiction-related sub? Just asking.
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 11-11-2015
I dreamt that a girl was trying to grab my balls, and I was running... But in the end, she just wanted her mouse back, which I was carrying in my jeans pocket. In the end, I misunderstood her... It was all about the mouse, not about grabbing my balls. Weird dreams.
RE: Nofap Journal - Raz - 11-11-2015
(11-04-2015, 01:24 PM)zainuu163 Wrote: Has anyone used any addiction related sub? Just Asking
There is this module in BASE, Stop Using Recreational Drugs & Alcohol. For me it worked pretty conveniently. I let go of booze 2 1/2 years ago and stopped smoking cold turkey just before starting out with BASE. During BASE I let go of any residual desire I had harbored for booze. Recreational drug consumption is now nil. Until finishing my first BASE run I sometimes had sudden flares of cravings to catapult me out of reality by use of booze/drugs, so much that I'd thought the only way to deal with it is to give in to this craving. In the end it did not even happen once and I realized it for what it was: resistance.
Never experienced those cravings afterwards.
RE: Nofap Journal - Zane - 11-14-2015
Damn!!! 2 days without a fap feels like an eternity.
RE: Nofap Journal - Breeze - 11-14-2015
(11-14-2015, 07:52 AM)zainuu163 Wrote: Damn!!! 2 days without a fap feels like an eternity
That is good! I feel like eternity too since I last masturbated. Are you listening with the headphones/earbuds now?