Stop Masturbating-4G

[Zane]

Well I guess from now on this is where I will post my stuff.

[Zane]

I’ve been listening to the Stop Masturbation sub for a while now, and here are a few things I’ve noticed:

I don’t feel as much guilt anymore. I’d even call that a “healthy relapse.”

My streaks haven’t improved, and I actually tend to relapse more—probably due to resistance.

However, I’ve also noticed I’ve started doing things like laundry and cleaning my bedroom and bathroom, which I never used to do before.

I also tend to sleep longer, probably because I listen to the ultrasonic version on my desktop speakers at night. It makes a bit of a static sound, but I actually kind of like it.

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Now here’s the problem...

I have social anxiety, and I’m afraid of going outside. I haven’t been to college in about a month.

How in the world am I supposed to overcome this?

[Breeze]

Static noise is not a good sign. The speaker test must shed better light.

[Zane]

Well yeah, I’ve been getting a lot done lately.

I repaired my computer, I regularly clean my bathroom and bedroom now, and I even do my own laundry...

I also take *True Focus* daily — it kind of helps me stay motivated. Tbh, people usually get addicted to stuff because of low dopamine levels. This supplement helps me get that little dopamine boost I need.

Low dopamine = low confidence = more likely to develop addictions.

I have really high hopes for @Shannon's subs, because if this doesn’t work, then nothing will.

I read how @Patti was struggling so much with quitting smoking. I went through her journal and paid close attention to every piece of advice Shannon gave her. Tbh, I feel like my case is very similar to hers.

I’ve been waiting for this sub to release for almost two years, and finally, it’s starting to help.

I’ve also been having a lot of vivid dreams. In most of them, I’m usually naked and around other girls — either playing with them or showering with them. But then something always happens, and by the end of the dream, I realize it’s all tied to fear.

For example, in one dream, I saw white smoke that felt like a demonic presence. It overwhelmed me, and I was genuinely frightened.

In another dream, I was in a lucid-like state and saw a *big red spider* that shot its web at me and started coming toward me. I was so terrified, I woke up shouting “OMG!” — it felt unbelievably real.

The last dream I remember was related to *death*, and the fear I felt was intense.

It’s all fear. I never realized I had so much fear buried inside me.

[Zane]

Today I dreamt that I was talking face-to-face with my college teacher.

It’s strange — every time I dream about something related to fear, I end up relapsing the same day. It’s starting to feel like a pattern.

Also, I was thinking about stopping the current sub and switching to the *Overcome Fear* sub... but I don’t plan on doing that. I know this is what you guys refer to as *resistance*.

I still have a strong fear of going outside and socializing — especially when it comes to college. Because of this, I haven’t been to college for over a month now.

[Catman]

Keep listening to this sub, no matter WHAT.

Maybe you need 192 days to get rid of this problem. Nothing wrong with that. Keep pushing. Up the hours as high as you can. Every repetition of the script is helping a great deal. Don't stop no matter what surfaces in your head.

[Zane]

@CatMan, thanks for posting. Idk why, but I feel so alone on this subliminal journey.

This sub is definitely working on a deeper level, and every relapse feels different now. Tbh, I don’t even care about the streaks anymore — whether it’s 2 days or 3 days, it doesn’t bother me. Before starting the sub, I was obsessed with my streak, but now that obsession has faded a lot.

It feels like all the fear surfacing in my dreams is actually helping me grow from the inside. I can sense some kind of inner healing taking place.

When I used to relapse before listening to the sub, I would feel completely pissed off and drained. But now, it’s not like that anymore. I still feel a bit tired, but I have some energy left — not a lot, but definitely better than before.

Also, this might sound weird, but it feels like time has slowed down. I’ll think that two hours have passed, but when I check, it’s only been one. There’s just so much time now... and I actually enjoy that.

Another thing I’ve noticed — when I relapse, it’s harder to play out fantasies in my head. It’s like I can’t fully engage, which makes fapping feel more like a chore — kind of boring, honestly.

I know it might be too soon to suggest this, but I feel like Shannon could eventually add a script that says something like, *"I avoid fantasizing."* Just something subtle like that...

30 days down... time for another 30.

[Catman]

100% sounds like deep change is happening.

I'm very interested in this sub. It sounds like a lot of growth and fear is being purged. Amazing, keep going, up the hours if you can each day.

You are NOT alone. Never forget that.

[Zane]

When I first started listening to this sub, somehow my sleep schedule naturally aligned — I was going to bed around 10–11 PM and waking up by 6–7 AM.

But over the past 6–7 days, I’ve noticed that my sleep timing has started slipping again. Now I find myself going to bed at 4 AM and waking up around noon.

[Zane]

Weird thing happened today.

I went to bed at 4 AM and woke up around 11 AM.

I was feeling some urges and thinking, *“Man, what should I do about these urges?”* — and right then, my dad suddenly walked in and asked me to drop him off at work.

Tbh, it feels like this sub is trying to *manifest* certain situations in my life. I’ve felt this more than once now.

A few days ago, I was in the middle of fapping when my girlfriend knocked on the bathroom door. And just like that, I completely forgot what I was doing — my focus instantly shifted, and I wasn’t even aware of the change. All my horniness just vanished.

It’s like the sub is stepping in at the right moments.

[apollolux]

Few days ago I was fapping and my gf knocked on the bathroom door and
I completely forgot about fapping and my focus shifted and I wasnt even aware of it. All my horniness went away.

Out of curiosity, why do you masturbate if you already have a girlfriend? Does she not satisfy the particular sexual urges you have?

[Blink]

Few days ago I was fapping and my gf knocked on the bathroom door and
I completely forgot about fapping and my focus shifted and I wasnt even aware of it. All my horniness went away.

Out of curiosity, why do you masturbate if you already have a girlfriend? Does she not satisfy the particular sexual urges you have?

I was wondering the same thing? I was very surprised to learn you have a gf because of the fapping issue!

If it is too sensitive a subject to answer... I apologize for asking.

I relate to this. I do not have a girlfriend at the moment, but in previous relationships, after almost every sleepover, having sex both at night and in the morning, I'd find myself masturbating to porn whenever she'd leave or I'd get back to my place. Although the sex would be very satisfying at points, it's still a different feeling when you give yourself pleasure, either with or without the help of porn. Probably not everyone could understand it, but I guess it's a personality thing.

Good luck on your journey zainuu163! I'm doing NoFap at the moment as well, with AM6 tho.

[Zane]

Why dont I have sex with my gf ?

One Word:

RELIGION

[Zane]

Few days ago I was fapping and my gf knocked on the bathroom door and
I completely forgot about fapping and my focus shifted and I wasnt even aware of it. All my horniness went away.

Out of curiosity, why do you masturbate if you already have a girlfriend? Does she not satisfy the particular sexual urges you have?

I was wondering the same thing? I was very surprised to learn you have a gf because of the fapping issue!

If it is too sensitive a subject to answer... I apologize for asking.

I relate to this. I do not have a girlfriend at the moment, but in previous relationships, after almost every sleepover, having sex both at night and in the morning, I'd find myself masturbating to porn whenever she'd leave or I'd get back to my place. Although the sex would be very satisfying at points, it's still a different feeling when you give yourself pleasure, either with or without the help of porn. Probably not everyone could understand it, but I guess it's a personality thing.

Good luck on your journey zainuu163! I'm doing NoFap at the moment as well, with AM6 tho.

You could say that we did everything *but* sex... so I do know a few things.

Also, when I found out about **AM6** on IML, I wanted to give it a shot because I read so many users saying they had lost interest in porn.

But very few mentioned anything about masturbation. I only came across one post where someone said that after using **AM6**, he went 3 months without fapping.