Shannon Wrote:

Quote:That's what I was leaning towards..but I am experiencing a kind of self consciousness-and frustration of being around people/men especially/really that seems to be part of the SM experience+guys-even obviously straight guys-seem way to curious about me-and its annoying as hell-it feels like it cuts into me energetically if that makes sense. Plus I am not acting as much with woman when I feel I am being watched by others-all these things I feel Alpha would strip away relatively quickly...

I am noticing I get respect from guys, and everyone is nice to me, but I don't get interest or undue attention from guys on 2.0. I also couldn't care less if someone is watching... I picked up the last one's phone number in front of my uncle, aunt and six year old cousin. Who she thought was my son, by the way. lol

Quote:1. What other ways would using Alpha first step it up...does Alpha have manifestations relating to woman?

Alpha is going to build not only a solid base of operations upon which to build SM, it's going to get you comfortable in your own skin and make you more comfortable socializing, leading others and more extroverted. It also does include material on attracting women, but manifestations focus on attracting friends who will improve things for you... not women.

Quote:2. While I do want it permanent-even more than that-I want my SM 2 experience to be as powerful as possible-so would that would probably be Alpha 5.0 first?

AM 5.0 and SM 2.0 are both designed to be long term/permanent. The more powerful effect for some aspects will come from running 2.0 directly after 1.0. The more powerful effect overall will come from running AM 5.0 and then SM 2.0.

Quote:3. You obviously have a will of steel but for those of us more likely to delay the inevitable, work wise, how would you say SM 2.0 fairs for focus in other directions than the fairer sex?
-I appreciate the input-just trying to get the next purchased settled reasonably soon

A will of steel? lol Where do you get that?

SM 2.0 is designed to make you approach, attract and seduce women, and make them try to do the same to you. Aside from having you resist sex with women who are inappropriate, and improving your skills as a lover... what else is it supposed to do?

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Spiral Wrote: Shannon is there any sort of extroversion training or extra socializing in SM 2.0? I know it forces you to get out and meet women but what about from the socializing aspect as a fun game in general with everyone around you?

SM 2.0 does have extroversion/socializing training. The extroversion training is not specifically called that in the script though. These are focused on the goal of the set though - meeting, seducing and having sex with women, and having them do the same with you.

Shannon Wrote:

lovinh3767 Wrote: -->But timing is everything, and the time is not quite right yet.
I am seeing this type of comment in almost all your post on SM2. Shouldn't this be addressed in the sub. Why cant the sub delivers you the right place, right time, right person when *that* happens?

I commented this because I see a pattern.

The sub is designed to do what you suggest. However, as with all manifestations, there are rules that apply to adjust the results outside of what I can do about it, and for me at least, the timing issue is being governed by influences that are present, but fading. The fact that I have gotten as far as I have with this program is amazing to me, given the magnitude of those forces in my life right now. They will be present until about October, after which time it will be much easier for me to achieve sex.

We live in a sea of energy, and it is composed of many sub-types and currents and eddies of other energies. Some of them are manifest as physical matter, and some are not. But they are all influential in their way.

We represent the embodiment, the "tuning fork", if you will, for the energy set that existed when we were born, and it is the interaction of that resonance with the resonance as-it-is-now that guides us in the sea, so to speak. For some people, the current flow and trend will be helpful for sex and relationships; for others, like me, it is hampering in its effect.

Add to that the fact that we all have our reactions to deal with concerning past relationships. In my last major relationship, sex was a major component, and I got hurt so badly that it has taken me 2 years to be able to genuinely say I am coming back to being ready for another serious relationship. I believe that there is some resistance there to being sexually intimate.

But the program is working anyway, in spite of all this, because I would never have been invited to that party if it hadn't manifested into my life the friend who invited me; and I know she is the result of a manifestation because it was 8 years past that I last saw her. Then one day when I was doing something at the mall, and making up my mind that it would be the last time I ever did that particular thing, that she happened upon me and decided that I needed to be included in her social activities.

I spend 95% of my time at home, working. Most of my friends in the area had moved away. I had crippling social anxiety that I didn't even recognize that I had. I was also hiding from the world because of healing from my last major relationship, and because of my mother's death. I don't heal quickly, it seems.

So my social life took a major nose dive. How to get it back on keel, I had no idea short of moving, which I cannot do. But SM 2.0 is reversing that, quite obviously, and socializing is the first step to sex. You can't have sex with women you don't meet.

Also consider that my style is to be as moss most of the time. I prefer to grow on them slowly but surely, so that before they realize it, they ave moss all over them, and they're green. (Just kidding. ) More seriously, I move at the pace of the current with women: if the current is moving quickly, I move quickly. If not, I tend to be slow and steady in changing her response to me.

Manifestation programs can't do much if you never get out of your cave. Andrew is fond of saying that to me, and it's true. While it is possible to have the woman of your sexual dreams just show up at your front door, and I have had women show up at my front door whom I later became sexually involved with through that meeting, it is very unusual.

So consider the program's value and results in light of all the facts and you begin to realize that it's doing a very good and impressive job for me, even though so far I have not had any sex.

Could I have had sex with one of those women last night? Yes, most definitely. I knew which one was most responsive and how to get her engine running. But I also knew she had two kids who were sleeping a couple rooms over, and I was not sure she was single. I was raised by a single mother, and I know what it's like first hand to have guys trying to bed one's mother all the time, as my mother was very attractive in her day. I didn't appreciate how they treated her, and I did not appreciate how they treated me. I will not do that to someone else's kids. A single mother therefore has to be away from her cubs before I am very likely to agree to sex, so as not to involve them, since I am not looking for an instant family. She also has to be single, and unless I want to become seriously involved with her, comfortable with sex for the sake of sex, before I am willing to bed her.

But... in time, I know that I will encounter her without her cubs present, and I know she will also realize that I am a good choice for sex, whether or not initiate first. I also know that she and I are likely to become FWB in time.

And the others, one of whom I wanted to make out with and I know she felt that way too, she is extremely skittish because of having been burned so many times. You do not approach someone who is scared and hurt and try to get up under her skirt unless you have no regard for her as a human being. So I set things up for her to be able to observe me, and over time, she will come to trust me enough that I can continue... if we decide that is hat we want at that point.

The third, well, she is wife material, and taken. That means she's a good catch, and a good catch is always hard to land unless it jumps unto your boat. She's not trying to jump into my boat, and I'm not about to touch a taken woman. But I happen to know how to get her to be interested in me, and I also know that in about 9 months, her current relationship will end. When the time is right, I will make a move. That one is quite a catch.

At the same time, I am being realistic about all this: sometimes, you meet people and you just end up friends. That's okay, because friends are how you have a social life, and socializing is how you meet more candidates. So it's all good.

Shannon Wrote:

Tiesto Wrote: Shannon, once you have completed stage 6 of SM 2.0, and then start on AM 5.0, is it necessary (or more optimal) to take a few days/weeks break in-between?

It is not necessary. However, giving your brain a little time to finish assimilating the last program before starting on the new one can be beneficial. I would say give it a week. Don't let it go more than a month in any case. I believe a week or two would be best. I would do a week.

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RainbowAbyss Wrote: Shannon-did SM 2 every get changed to attracting/manifesting user's (sexual) preference in woman
over, if I remember correctly, in SM1 what was simply 'sexually available woman'...?

SM2 specifies that you will attract physically beautiful women who are of the age range you most prefer, and who are most sexually compatible with you and most interested in having sex with you.

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jonathanzx10 Wrote: Shannon, about wm only attracting single women, I think that should be limited to only married ones for a couple of reasons:

1- many are in open relationships, and therefore are not single in a way.
2- there are many girls in unhappy/abusive relationships and I see nothing wrong in ending those.
3- the really high quality girls are almost always in relationships already.

I think that in the heart of it all what you really intended to avoid is these girls having parallel relationships with us and their boyfriends without them knowing, and I agree that this is wrong and should be avoided. But I think that the means of doing that should be a statement along the lines of " I refuse to be in a parallel relationship with a any girl'. I don't want to miss my soul mate just because she is in an unhappy relationship with some beta male.

In response to point number one... I cannot make such a distinction in the script without managing to obfuscate it into uselessness. It's already very intricate. This means women in open relationships would not be manifested, unless I allow all women who are Beautiful, high quality women" to be manifested, which inevitably leads to both married women having affairs and bad karma for me for enabling said stupidity.

In response to point number two... it is not your place to end someone else's relationship, no matter how sad or abusive. That is their choice and responsibility to do, and they do not need you to do so. You can change yourself, not her, or him. That aside, it is also not a question of absolutes. What you see nothing wrong with may be outrageously offensive and wrong to someone else. I also have to ask myself, "Do I want to be karmically involved in such situations?" The answer, in a word, is no.

In response to point number three... the program manifests into your life, beautiful high quality single women. Therefore, you don't have to worry about which ones are taken... the quality ones who are single will respond.

As for your soul mate... there are many soul mates for every soul. There are companion soul mates, mirror souls and then there are what I call "key souls", which are a very small group of souls which can act as what some call primary soul mates or "twin flames".

Not in every life will there even be any key souls incarnate for you. And even if they are, there is no guarantee that you will be allowed to meet in this life. Key souls tend to be very distracting from any lesson they are not a part of, and are therefore carefully corralled until and unless they can be encountered without disruption. For instance, I can tell you that my primary soul mate will not appear in my life for another 20 to 30 years, because I have lessons to learn until then, which she would only distract me from in the mean time. For many lives, no key soul contact is made because there are other things to be taken care of instead while the soul is incarnate.

For those cases where a soul mate (mirror or key) is supposed to be encountered... rest assured, there is no way to avoid the encounter shy of running and hiding, and even then you are more likely to get struck by lightning than to avoid it, because it will be something you chose to experience and therefore a karmic inevitability. I speak from experience here... you absolutely cannot avoid a soul mate you are supposed to meet. When you are ready for them, and they you, nothing can stop it from happening if that is the plan.

Therefore, worry not; if your soul mate is in such a relationship, they are not ready for you, and you would not be allowed to meet (or recognize one another as soul mates, if you did meet).

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Tiesto Wrote: Shannon, if I play the ocean surf at low volume, where the softest part of the waves is audible (but the whispers aren't) do you think it is actually still effective, or do I have to be able to hear the whispers to ensure I get the proper flow? Still a bit unsure how to calibrate the ocean track properly..

I'm currently using loud volumes every night but I'm getting kinda tired of it, lol.. I still want to experiment with ocean track on earphones for the time being, since it might be more effective for me, but thinking of going with low volume starting this week?


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I've been getting so much support from friends (especially girls), I've been getting comments like "I'm sure you can do it. You are smart you should be able to handle it easy. I'll be supporting you. and so on and so on". What's up with this? Is this part of the effect of BASE Shannon?

Could it be that BASE helps me to project some kind of presence of success, that attracts people and makes them believe in me and wants to support me in any way?

The calibration instructions already detail this. You are worried that if you cannot consciously hear the "whispers", that you are not getting the results. The fact is, your subconscious can clearly hear and decode the subliminal speech even when the ocean surf is at it's quiet points, as long as you can hear it still consciously. You don't have to play it loudly.

Yes, that is part of the effect of BASE. It attracts to you support, positive energy, and people who can and will help you get started and succeed. Remember, BASE is what I used to meet Andrew, who is now an integral part of this business. Viva la BASE!

(01-13-2015, 09:01 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-14-2014, 05:19 AM)LionKing Wrote:

(11-13-2014, 07:01 AM)AeJe Wrote: 1) if i found a speaker that has 190 Hz-20 kHz = is this good for ULTRASONIC? can the "Hz" on the left side be anything so long as it is 20kHz on the right side?

1) The ultrasonic track is centered at 17.5kHz if I remember correctly, and then add some to the sides. So the needed frequency range is something like 16 kHz to 18 kHz. Or 15-20 to be sure.

(11-13-2014, 07:01 AM)AeJe Wrote: 3) i bought soundfreaq last year for AM6, and i did the SOUND TEST and it passed with flying color, but i talked to SoundFreaq and they confirmed that the model i bought is NOT 20kHz . . . can i still use this speaker even though it aint 20kHz (meaning can i use it for BOTH ULTRASONIC and MASKED?

Get the Frequencee app for your smartphone, or borrow someone else's phone, and play some tracks. You'll see how the speaker test works and you'll see where the ultrasonic audio lies.

Since the original questions have been answered as well as I could do, I'll specify here instead.

You need a minimum of 20 kHz on the high end to minimize distortion in the subliminal audio. Clipping the frequency will reduce the clarity of the subliminal and reduce it's effectiveness by making it harder for the subconscious to decode and understand.

My subs, especially 5G, push the limits by achieving optimization levels that are peak. That way you don't have to try to make them better by doing fancy tricks. But this does mean that adjusting them in any way is likely going to degrade their results. If a speaker cannot handle 20 kHz at the top end, you're losing information, and that's not good. If you don't have speakers that can handle the required top end, just use the masked format. Any speakers will handle that.

(01-28-2015, 01:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-04-2015, 03:09 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hello. Ben referred me to post here, so I'll copy paste my question:

When I listen to my LTU 3.1 recently, I've been using the Treble Reducer setting on the EQ of the iPhone 5, because it reduces the upper high frequencies, and it makes it more soothing on the ears to me, and a little easier to sleep. Is this ok? What frequencies do the trickling stream subliminals take up? For example, the talking human voice doesn't go over a few thousand Hz. However, for the ultrasonic, I know that they are pitched way up. For the trickling stream, is it ok if I use the treble reducer setting, or is there subliminal content that is pitched up to higher frequencies in the trickling stream one?

Treble reducer is a no-no with ultrasonics. It has no negative impact on masked format. The human voice usually does not exceed 3-4 kHz.

(02-03-2015, 04:50 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-03-2015, 02:52 PM)LeoistheSun Wrote: Is ultrasonic more effective?

The ultrasonic is and is not more effective. Here's what I mean by that.

The masked subliminal format presents to your subconscious a much lower volume of subliminal data. In some ways, volume equates to effectiveness simply because it appears to correlate to perceived urgency by the subconscious mind, and therefore louder = better, to a point. Go too loud and there is the increasing potential for a subconscious "F*ck you! Back off!" response, and that would be resistance to what is perceived subconsciously as a "too aggressive demand for". If you ask me to get you a glass of water, I am much more likely to get it for you than if you scream a demand at me. In one case, depending on how you ask, I may decide to do as you request. In the other case, I will decide to tell you to f-off and go get it yourself, because I'm nobody's servant, and you are not asking or requesting, you are now demanding. I don't accept demands.

The flip side that keeps one format from being "better" than another is the fact that there is another, balancing factor in play. The quieter the subliminal data you are presented with, the more deeply subconscious the perception is. There is apparently a series of levels of subconscious awareness, or perhaps a smooth gradient. The part closest to the conscious mind is the most obvious in response; ultrasonics usually work best with that level. The masked format apparently works better with being only perceived by the deep subconscious. Both are capable of great results, but they express themselves in different ways sometimes, so sometimes, one is "better" than the other for a particular person.

(02-26-2015, 11:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: The ultrasonic track has the same suggestions as the masked track. The difference is in the volume of the subliminalized information. The ultrasonic track plays the subliminal information at the same volume as the masking track on the masked format. The masked format plays the subliminal information a lot less loudly.

In the case of control freak personality, there are two possible approaches. One is to use louder for more effect, and one is to use quieter for more effect. (Part of why we offer both formats.) Louder will sometimes overcome desire for control by instilling urgency. On the other hand, lower volume can get better results for some such people because it is less aggressive. The down side to each is, the louder option may trigger a "f you!" response instead; and the lower volume may simply be more easily resisted instead.

If you used mostly the masked track last time and did not get the results you wanted, try the ultrasonic track only this next time through. Make sure you calibrate volume according to the instructions.

(03-18-2015, 06:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: Here is what FrequenSee tells me about the usage patterns I have for myself.

Maximum volume: 12/15 on my phone (Samsung Galaxy S4). This is approximately -23 dB peak volume at the source. Discrepancy from previous answers comes from the fact that I'm reading these on a scale starting at 0 and dropping, instead of rising. This volume is what I usually use on my phone at night, phone either on nightstand or next to me.

Standard volume: 9/15 on my phone. Approximately -27 dB peak volume at the source. This is what I usually use on my phone during the day, phone in arms reach.

Low volume: 7/15 on my phone. Approximately -33 dB peak volume at the source.

Volumes below 7 are useful, but are not as powerful in dealing with resistance.

This is not necessarily an endorsement for the use of these volumes. It's what I use, and I share it for educational purposes only. If you try them and these volumes are too loud, or you experience ringing in your ears, use the standard method for calibration.

(01-08-2014, 10:23 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(01-08-2014, 12:58 PM)IceAlive Wrote: Hello there,

I have 2 speakers on each side of the bed, only in reversed arrangement due to cable length restrictions. Does this negatively impact subliminals assimilation? If so, I'll find an app that can swap channels

Also, out of curiosity and related to this, does it matter if I swap my headphones without realizing?

Thank you.

Swapping channels does not negatively impact the use of my programs. You can swap them all day long, and it'll still work just fine.

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spiritman Wrote: Shannon I want to make sure that these speakers meet the right 20Khz frequency response. At the bottom of the page, it shows what type of frequency response the speakers give out. It is the fourth one from the bottom of the list. Thanks

Speakers

The frequency response is listed as being 100Hz - 20Khz for this speaker set. 100 Hz for the low end is an indication of low quality... 20 kHz on the high end fits the necessary for reproducing ultrasonics. Since ultrasonics require a frequency respose range of 14 to 20 kHz for my particular programs, this will work for all programs I produce. 100 Hz on the low end is not the best quality, but lower is not necessary either.

The best speakers will have the largest frequency response range. The top of the line will typically have a FRR that starts lower than 20 Hz and goes well above 20 kHz. I have seen 13 Hz to 27 Hz in very rare cases. You want the best you can afford.

Shannon Wrote:

mat422 Wrote: Hey Shannon just a quick question. I just checked out the speakers I was using for my subs and realized sound isn't coming out of the right one or it's very low and unbalanced with the left, probably broken. Anyway I don't know when this happened, but I'm pretty much getting only one side of audio. Obviously I need new speakers, but in the meantime would playing the sub be bad? I know you said not to use mono speakers, but I'm wondering if these are stereo speakers and one of them doesn't work then I'm only getting half the programming?

I wish I knew when it crapped out on me. There was a lull for a while with alpha where I thought it was resistance, but now I'm thinking that maybe it was my speakers. Lesson learned, always check my speakers before listening to a sub.

If you have a way of using stereo speakers or headphones, prefer that. But mono is better than nothing... you'll just be getting about 45% of the intended impact that way.

Always check speakers and volume.

Shannon Wrote:

Donjuan Wrote: Hi Shannon New member here.. I also listen to my subliminals at night and I use my Cellphone only. I use Samsung galaxy pop GT-S5570. I use the equaliser option as Jazz. There are many options like classic,pop,rock etc but i chose Jazz. One more thing i would like to know is there is a 5.1 channel option which is unticked. Is that the stereo option? Since i heard you say somewhere ,listening in stereo will enable the brain to listen the entire script (correct me if i am wrong).?

I cannot know what every option on every cell phone does. I'm sure Google can help you with that. The manual for your phone should be easily available in PDF format that way. If I recall correctly, Dolby 5.1 is surround sound, but that is meaningless from a mono speaker, and next to meaningless on headphones. You need multiple speakers to get true surround sound, as far as I know.

Listening in stereo does not allow you to get the entire script; you'll get that regardless, which is why it still works at all. What it does is it prevents you from catching parts and pieces of the script as it plays, since I actively use both channels to create the effect of moving audio sources in order to force your brain hemispheres to work together. So if you're listening to mono, you'll get some of this, and some of that, before it fades out and something else replaces it. It's like listening to parts of several conversations about the same thing. End result, you'll get it all, but it will take longer and be more work, instead of having the desired effect.

Unless, of course, the program is a Type A, Type A/B Hybrid or designed specifically for one gender only. Those programs only use one gender, and they use a different method to accomplish the same thing, instead of SPE.

Shannon Wrote: ... there is a simple test you can do.

Load an ultrasonic .mp3 into the phone, and play it. If it produces scratchy static, it is unsuitable. If you hear a high pitched whine, it can play the audio, but has exactly a 20 kHz limit. If you hear nothing at even maximum volume, it has a 22kHz+ frequency response.

You probably will find that most phones are the second possibility. They can play it, but have a 20 kHz limit. You'll know these phones because around 90% volume and higher, they'll start producing speaker distortion, which sounds like a little bit of quiet, inconsistent static.

Shannon Wrote:

AwesomeYoungDude Wrote: Noise cancelation head phones:

Shannon, can I use noise canceling head phones while listening to the silent subs.

The two scenarios are first I listen to the sub via the noise canceling head phones.

Second I will have the noise canceling head phone’s on my head while the sub is playing on external stereo speakers. The head phone’s are to cut down on the background noise. I’ve verified that with the head phones on that I can clearly hear music playing on the stereo speakers.

AYD

I recommend against using noise cancelling headphones with 5G titles. The reason is that noise cancellation works by recording the ambient audio and then inverting it, and playing the inversion at the same volume as the ambient audio. This neutralizes the incoming sound waves with what are effectively anti-waves. That wouldn't be a problem, but with 5G I am pushing the limits of what your body can input through your ears, without beginning to have it degrade, to it's limits. Adding that anti-wave may push it over the edge.

I don't know what it would do to 4G or lower, but I doubt it would be a problem for those. But 5G, you should not use it with.

Shannon Wrote:

Quote:To transfer and play a song in this MP3 player it has to be converted into ATRAC format which is SONY's format (as far as know, not sure about it). I'm listening to ASC on this MP3 player in ATRAC format. Will this make a difference in listening to the original mp3 file of ASC in comparison to ATRAC format.

ATRAC or any other re-coding of my .mp3s will damage them unless the format is LOSSLESS and does not re-compress them. For instance, you could convert them to .wav or .aiff and not have a problem.

ATRAC uses lossy compression, meaning that it enhances its compression by throwing away all audio data it thinks you don't care about. In other words... if you use a subliminal converted with ATRAC compression, it is absolutely destroyed by that format if it is an ultrasonic. It MAY be damaged (for subliminal audio value) for masked format also, depending on whether ATRAC throws away low volume audio data also... which seems likely.

So... if you are using an mp3 player that re-encodes the subliminal to play it... you are not using a subliminal. This may explain the problem you're having.

Quote:Also whether the headphones spec stated above is compatible to stereo type and Ultrasonic versions of subs.

Yes.

Quote:And the frequency response, is it suitable to play Ultrasonic versions of subs on this MP3 player?

Yes. But again, it doesn't matter if the ATRAC has re-compressed the subliminal, because lossy compression throws away data it thinks isn't going to be missed. I know for sure that high frequency audio is tossed, and I strongly suspect low volume audio would also be.

Shannon Wrote:

AwesomeYoungDude Wrote: Shannon, any issues using stereo Bluetooth headphones or speakers?

To the best of my understanding, Bluetooth is a short range version of wifi. It should have no effect on audio quality.

(01-28-2015, 01:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:

Quote:I'm running AYPSL

I understand that the subconscious is being bombard with all these affirmations that I'm manifesting xxx into my life nonstop

But for your conscious mind, you will never really believe it since it doesn't exist in your reality... So you might be prone to negative/opposing thoughts

So my question is, is this normal? Or with the subs am I supposed to reach a stage where my conscious mind and sub conscious are both singing the same tune even before manifestation occurs

Not sure how the conscious and subconscious are supposed to be in harmony with the same tune during the timegap before a manifestation occurs... It's abit difference from ASC confidence where it's inner based n not dependent on a physical manifestation so it's possible that both minds are in harmony

The conscious mind does not have to be involved for the subconscious mind to do, or accomplish something. In fact, it is often the case that the conscious mind works against the subconscious mind, and when it does it will frequently lose the disagreement because the subconscious mind can do a lot of things it cannot. Conscious skepticism can destroy a manifestation effort through subliminals. That's why it's best to use the program and just forget about it. Let go of hopes and fears and expectations. Get on with life. Think about and do something else. The conscious mind doesn't need to be involved.

There is coming a new method of making subs that does harmonize the conscious and subconscious minds, though. It's part of the 6th Generation build methods. For now, just use the program and remain consciously neutral. Live your life.

Quote:I was thinking of a similar question like yours and came to make a thread but you just made one so I'll ask the related question.

Okay so, subliminals are affirmations. Yes we get that. So why is it affirmations being repeated for 8 hours a day less effective then affirmations that are disguised with ocean waves more effective. I get the idea of resistance but if we were consciously bombarded with audible affirmations for more then 8 hours a day I also think it can bypass old programming. I just don't understand how the subliminals are more effective when the subconscious is just a machine that says yes or no to things and doesn't really take formulated sentences into account. Atleast to my knowledge.

Using affirmations is less effective than subliminals - for any amount of time - because affirmations must contend with the conscious mind, which is the gatekeeper to the subconscious. If you imagine your mind as a data center, the conscious mind is the rent-a-cop at the entrance, and the subconscious mind is the datacenter and the operating system it runs on. You use affirmations and if the guard says, "I don't like that," it takes forever to get a result. But if that guard does like it, he'll make it look like you're getting results. In neither case have you done anything much with the data center. What you have achieved is a form of placebo effect, which is why most results you get from affirmations are temporary unless you use subconscious accessing techniques with them.

But you use a subliminal, and it's like wearing an invisibility cloak and making it past the guard, and getting into the data center itself. You load your data into one of the servers and then propagate it to all of the datacenter, and it eventually becomes part of the very operating system that is being run to make the whole data center work.

That, and because you're receiving the affirmations in a subliminal not just purely subconsciously, but vastly more frequently and vastly more consistently. If you did nothing but repeat one single short affirmation to yourself verbally as fast as you could for 8 hours, I can make that look like a joke for repetitions in just a half an hour with a subliminal.

Quote:I personally believe that affirmations repeated for 8 hours a day are far more effective than 8 hours of subs. Same with visualizations. However, who can keep up that habit for long? Subs are less effective but they are a passive way of programming the subconscious which is where the benefit lies imo.

You'd be wrong, for the reasons I mentioned above. Properly used affirmations must be used concordant with subconscious access techniques such as hypnosis or meditation or BWE to make them truly effective, and at that point, why not use a subliminal?

Visualizations, however, are another matter. Properly done visualizations are much more powerful, and you can achieve amazing things in just days if you use that correctly. But doing so again requires an altered state and the right focus and intensity of desire and emotions. I have a hard time believing that anyone in his day and age has even 15 minutes of clean time to do a proper visualization, with the constant noise and distractions. And once you start getting into powered visualizations, it's still easier by far to use subliminals. Subliminals can be just as effective as powered visualizations, but they may take longer.

Quote:I think it's rather that you hear your own voice, so you trust it more. Not sure if I explained it right, but I read it somewhere when making your own subliminals so I'm guessing it can apply to affirmations as well. Regarding to LOA, if you are going to visualize or affirm something, you have to be in a non-resistant place emotionally, I guess that's when subconscious accepts it the most. But affirmations that you don't believe to be true can cause instant resistance except if you are in a theta brainwave state, really relaxed and rather positive (which can be quite challenging to accomplish sometimes).

Hearing it in your own voice and trusting that more does play a role in the effectiveness of subliminals and affirmations. But that role is a lot less than you might think. I explored that avenue extensively at one time. The rest of what you say here is just what I was saying above.

Quote:Why I think in overall a program would work better is because you can only repeat as many affirmations and when you stop there are so many more beliefs that might not have completely disappeared that can later set you back to when you started. To bypass the subconscious mind when affirming consciously constantly you would have to be in specific state every time to affirm, while as with a subliminal program it doesn't even involve the conscious mind so the effects start to show from SUBCONSCIOUS first and then you will see them on a conscious level. For example things regarding the subliminal start going your way and then you will realize that hey, I am those things the subliminal is telling me.

Correct.

Quote:Affirmations are the other way around, you have to believe them consciously first for them to have any strong effect on the subconscious. But I think this one can be more unmotivating to some people because even if they think they believe it, they will fall short until the subconscious accept that truth.

I might add that people leave out a lot of what makes affirmations work. You not only have to bypass the conscious critical faculty, but you have to have the right emoional state and desire state. Achieving and maintaining those states is very difficult, especially in concert, for the vast majority of people. Subliminals are almost infinitely superior for that reason.

(02-26-2015, 02:19 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(02-24-2015, 09:46 AM)Superman Wrote: Is it possible that our brains could get too accustomed to the amount of stimulation coming from subliminals that normal levels of stimulation are not enough to hold our attention?

For example the older generation can read physical books with full attention just fine and find them highly entertaining. While the younger generation who are always on the computer/phone/multiple devices doing multiple things at once are finding that they have difficulty focusing on one thing at a time. Many find reading books not stimulating enough due to being accustomed to having so much stimulation from other devices all the time.

We are encouraged in most cases to use subliminals as much as possible to maximize the effects. Could this have negative effects in the long run? Even though our brains are very plastic even discontinuing the stimulus will never return it completely to the way it was before.

The primary reason the older generation has no problem reading books, and the younger generation does, is that the older generation was not raised on multimedia devices that constantly trained their brains to stay in Theta (sleep/dream/defocus mode). The older generation stays in standard waking Beta (awake/focus mode) because they don't overdose on multimedia constantly.

The conscious and subconscious minds are very different things, and the subconscious mind takes a long time to "get bored" when it gets bored. Even when the conscious mind might have an attention span of minutes or less, and the personality type is scattered, flighty, flaky and all over the place, the subconscious can typically maintain focus for at least 90 days depending on the programming being input and the program their subconscious mind is already running.

Shannon Wrote:

Quote:Now I'll be the first to agree that these things are handed out like candy and doctors make money by doing so. So some people really don't need them, but I also believe some people do.

Having spent almost 10 years of my life taking them, I am solidly of the belief and opinion that nobody needs them; they do provide benefit, but only because they mask the symptom. They do nothing to identify the problem, or fix it. Which Big Pharma loves, because that means more money, forever.

Quote:I just wish there was more research that went into these meds and the people that need them, or their brain structure. I still feel like modern science hasn't really proved that well that it is physical and what exactly the meds do.

I wish there was more concern for understanding the meds too, and by doctors for identifying and fixing the problem instead of just throwing pills around. Without even knowing what will work! If I did what they are doing, I'd be in prison in a heartbeat. But because they have spent all these years in school, they are allowed to play with your head without knowing what's what yet. Sure, they have a better idea... but they are guessing most of the time, and it shows in what they do, and how often they are right.

When I was on meds, it was, "Hey, this sounds good. Not working? Let's try upping the dose. Still not working? Up the dose. Still not working? Lets try this other drug. Still not working? Up the dose. Still not working? Let's try this other drug." And it's still like that.

They're playing at being more knowledgeable than they are, and they think it's okay because they have that degree and all of the years of schooling and experience. But that doesn't change the fact that they still don't know what they are doing with this stuff yet, or why it does or does not work! And it doesn't find or fix the real cause. It just masks the symptoms. We are just cash cows to Big Pharma, and guess who has their hands in the cookie jar all the way through med school? You guessed it. Big Pharma. Influencing what the doctors learn, so they can be trained to throw pills instead of fix the problem.

Quote:That being said right now I'm running the remove negativity within subliminal. It's only really been three days, so I don't expect anything too substantial yet. But I feel like things are being pulled up and the feelings kind of hit me at random times during the day. Anyway I was going to run this for maybe 2 or 3 months and see what happens.

That sounds like a good idea.

Quote:I know you've said subliminals aren't a cure all, and at this point in my life I think I'm going to need some professional help. I think I've just denied things for too long and swept them under the rug, and now it's coming back to haunt me. I like remaining positive, but there's a difference between being positive and being ignorant. I was never too fond of anti-depressants because they don't have the most substantial research behind them. But this got me thinking. If there is an actual chemical imbalance in my brain, theoretically could subliminals help me balance that?

Professional help is a good thing, as long as you can find a good professional. Unfortunately, it's a bit of a crap shoot these days, and there are fully degreed psychiatrists and psychologists at doctorate level out there who vehemently deny that each other's system of psychology is valid or works. A friend of mine has a sister who is a psych Ph.D. and she inists I am scamming all of you because she rejects the idea that there is such a thing as the subconscious mind, and therefore, subliminals, hypnosis, etc. cannot possibly work.

What the *... I was stunned when she said that to me. No, maybe I don't have advanced degrees in psychology, but you know what I do have? I have intelligence, common sense, and years of both feedback from customers, experiments and self usage to draw on. Empirical evidence. On top of which, we have the lowest refund rate of any business I have ever heard of! But my stuff doesn't work, because she decided Freud was wrong. Wow.

And there are a lot of them thinking like that. The truth is, the mind/brain arena is still a wild west, and those who are doing the research may or may not be listened to because they disagree with people who have "more credentials". I don't know about you, but I'll go for letting the facts speak for themselves, thanks.

But I digress. The point is, you have to be careful to find a good choice in professional help.

Quote:To me it's really a case of what came first chicken or the egg. Did negative beliefs and thinking cause the imbalance? Or did the imbalance lead to negative thinking and negative beliefs? I think this is the most difficult part in assessing my own issues. I don't like the whole chemical imbalance thing that needs meds, but I also have to be willing to accept that it is a possibility.

There are many other possibilities as to what the inception was caused by, influenced by, and maintained by. In all my years of research, the one thing that consistently comes up over and over and over is this: no matter how simple you want things to be, they're not; and no matter how complex you think they are - it's really more complex than that. So keep your mind open to other possibilities, like diet; early life emotional traumas you may or may not remember; and possibly even things as exotic as past life stuff.

A good hypnotist should be able to help you very effectively to understand what the problem is, and resolve it. But don't let them just try to hypnotize you and fix it... they need to have your subconscious mind verify what the situation actually is, and then formulate an effective plan of action.

Quote:I just thought I'd pick your brain on this matter, seeing as how you have a lot of knowledge on the subconscious mind. It's hard getting a straight answer from the medical community because science is so rigid in its belief structure lately.

Lately? lol Have you looked at the history of science? They are absolutely famous for the following pattern:

1. Visionary discovers new breakthrough.
2. Visionary shares with scientific community.
3. Scientific community cannot verify breakthrough, or does not want to believe it.
4. Scientific community tars and feathers visionary, usually leaving him/her broken, and penniless.
5. 10 to 100 years later, scientific community accepts visionary's findings as "common sense".
6. Only historians ever notice that this whole thing happened...

Don't get me wrong, I like science and I enjoy it and I wish I had a lot more money to fund doing a lot more rigid science for myself. But the fact is, if I revealed to the world how I do some of what I do, they would have no way of understanding the path from Point A (what they currently understand) to Point B (what *I* currently understand) and they would be unable to believe it was possible, which would then result in tarring and feathering, etc. (See above list.) It's common these days for established interests to dictate what is acceptable, and that leads to a lot of "If I cannot understand how it woks, it cannot possibly work, because I know how everything works." (See sister with Ph.D., above.) Do I understand why or how all of this stuff I have discovered works yet? No. But does that change the fact that it works? No!

Some of the things I have discovered, and am successfully using, and have been for more than two years now, are just not within the realm of common understanding right now. When I have retired and sold this business in 10 or 20 years (or whatever happens), I'll write a tell-all book, and even then they won't be able to understand. But my book will be the basis for sparking minds who will eventually prove me right, in 10 to 100 years, and the cycle will start all over again.

The difference here is, I'm not stupid enough to let them have at it until after I make myself successful.

Shannon Wrote:

Quote:Can the body become addicted to the chemical imbalance? The mind feels something, the brain releases chemicals according to that feeling, the body acts that feeling. If it happens for long time and the body get used to it and if suddenly the feeling stops then the body will complain to the brain to send more chemical.
Are all feelings then, minor chemical imbalances?

The body cannot become directly addicted to itself, as far as I know. It can become dependent on a specific imbalance, depending on the specifics of the interruption and resulting imbalance.

Quote:Chronic happiness, does that exits?

In the vast majority of cases, all things exist in balance. There can be chronic depression, so why not chronic happiness? Would we notice chronic happiness, because it is a positive and not painful? Maybe it is all around us and we just don't see it because we are so focused on the negative!

Quote:Where goes the line between subconscious mind and subconscious body?

Based in my research, I believe that there is no definitive line demarcating the conscious and subconscious minds; they separate quickly, but do blend into each other to some degree.

The "subconscious body" is what, exactly? The body the subconscious mind perceives and controls? That would be the same body the conscious mind perceives and controls... they just control different things, and perceive different aspects. You cannot separate a thing from itself. A - A = 0

Quote:What would be the disadvantages/advantages to distrusting/trusting the own subconscious mind?

What sense does this make to ask? It is as asking, what sense does it make to distrust or trust the reflection in your mirror. While the conscious and subconscious can think and act independently, they are both you. "You" are not one or the other; your conscious perception limits create that as an illusion. Do you distrust your left hand, but trust your right?

Shannon Wrote:

ssh Wrote: I was wondering if language, voice accent and voice modulation play any role/affect the sub-conscious. Does our sub-conscious understand any language it is exposed to. And what about any voice accent or modulation. English is my second language, though I understand it, still sometimes accent affects the way I listen and understand it, especially the U.S. accent. I'm supposed to get the experimental program in English (the script - if I happen to choose the actual program with any script) but I'm not sure about the type of accent as I have never listened to actual script voices and there is no possibility of listening to it anyway out of the programs available. Could you shed some light on this. Thanks.

My best understanding at current is a two part answer.

The "near subconscious" or "shallow subconscious" only understands the languages you consciously understand, and only slightly better. Unless the accent is so alien that you could not comprehend it listening to it, the subliminal will work. The scripts are recorded using a standard American English accent, the type you would hear if you listen to the major American news channels on TV. Subconsciously, you'll understand it just fine.

The second part is that there is the possibility - which I have not yet experimented with yet - that the deep subconscious remembers all the languages you ever spoke while incarnate in any lifetime. This of course requires that we reincarnate for it to be possible, but this may potentially affect your comprehension. I'll be experimenting with that later on.

Shannon Wrote:

rubman Wrote: Hey Shannon, greetings from a new user and congrats for all the work.

I have a question I would like you to answer me, being the expert in subs you are.

What is your opinion on video subliminals? I ask because i've seen in commercial video subs they say your subconscious mind can get 10000 words in 5-10 minute videos. You know, those videos where you see a lot of phrases scrolling really fast in the screen showing images at the same time. Are they more powerful than audio subliminals?

Thanks.

First, you are welcome.

Second, you have to dissasociate the idea that more = better with subliminals. That is not always true. Sometimes, more = worse. As for how effective they are, I do not know. I never studied them. I do know that 10,000 words in 5 minutes is definitely do-able for the subconscious mind. Easily. So maybe they do work. Video subliminals give an additional vector to stimulating the subconscious mind (visually). They therefore can induce a higher input of data, and while I know the limits of input through the ears, I don't know what the limit of processing input is through eyes and ears simultaneously. I may be making some video subs again in the future.

The power of a subliminal, visual or audial does not come solely from repetitions per time unit. It comes from having the correct timing, scripting, input methods, and several other factors. I know that I am the only person producing subs with some of these factors in place, because nobody else is even looking in the right directions for these things.