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RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Benjamin - 02-23-2012

Holy shit! Can I choose all 180 of them?! Smile

This is a hard choice hmm..

23. initiative, overcoming laziness, do what needs to be done

34. stepping outside comfort zone in all areas

39. Knows himself, who he is, and is unafraid to express his true personality around others. Unconcerned with judgement, ridicule, etc. for it.

54. automatically notice and naturally respond in exactly the right ways to IOIs from women.

68. full expression of masculine power

-Ben


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Shannon - 02-23-2012

(02-23-2012, 07:02 PM)spiritman Wrote: Shannon it is real hard to pick just 5, I think all of these should be included. Even if you had to do a two part program that went for a whole year, I would pay for it in a heart beat.

Except that list would fill 12 stages all by itself...


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - AVB2011 - 02-24-2012

Those lists are huge. If we need to pick TOP 5 from 180 lists, it would be hard to find absolute top picks from people, considering the number of voters in this forum. It is easier for me to choose TOP 5 less desired from those lists because the rests are really great traits or habits that Alpha Male suppose to have.
Some of the lists that have similarity are:
1. Socializing
11. Pushing you to expand social circle
29. Become a social extrovert
42. Social motivation
45. increase and expand social circle
152. Socializing, but not to the point where you feel like you are being pressured to.
153. Get out and socialize, get social exposure
154. enjoy making friends
156. become socially powerful
157. outgoing

Anyway if I have to choose TOP 5, it would be:
SOCIALIZING and MAKING FRIENDS (Socially Powerful)- If possible to combine all the social things above together Smile
39. Knows himself, who he is, and is unafraid to express his true personality around others. Unconcerned with judgement, ridicule, etc. for it.
110. Incredible compelling and magnetic, respect from guys, crazy attraction from girls
123. Displays confidence and dominance
133. Makes others laugh and feel good about themselves-people tend to get sucked into his reality-he is incredibly interesting and makes them just feel comfortable

~AVB~





RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Subeternal - 02-24-2012

I believe a lot of these suggestions are correlated with being alpha but have a lesser overall causation as a result of being/becoming this archetype. I really don't mind the social integration I simply have ascertained that while adding things to the core is beneficial I dont want to see the set become too homogenized into a "All in one" set. You can always make a comprehensive socializing set in the future.

Sincerely AM 2011 round 2 Stage 3 Day 21

Top of the list so far -

1 socializing ( 3 people )
36 knowing what you want, going after what you want ( 4 people )
59 self love ( 4 people )
112 generates own positive state ( 2 people )
163 self love, liking and appreciation ( 2 people )

I know that 112 and 163 aren't mutually exclusive although they should go hand in hand in my perception. I think self love is a good one because on the contrary to what people think, alpha is very stressful to maintain and its easy to falter when others around you seek social dominance and women constantly seek that reassurance from the alpha aura. I think its pretty much agreed 59 should be one of the upgrades with my vote thrown in Big Grin

My vote
33. Unflappable calm
59. Self Love
92. Increased self control and willpower
69. full presence, self connection, natural flow of self outwardly
168. (Simply for kicks considering this is how I know Shannon best)


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Roy - 02-24-2012

I would like all of the the list.With this list Alpha level 2 will be brilliant.

My five choices:

4. instantly recognizing (or knowing beforehand?) and boldly going after opportunities in the moment
16. masculine, commanding, sexy Voice
165. Be the mate selector.
44. overcome fear of sex, women, sexual performance insecurity, etc
176. Manifest supportive social circle

After choosing five and reading all the possible additions I would most definitely use alpha level 2 and 3.





RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Benjamin - 02-24-2012

Quote:Which ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY of these shall I put in AM 5.0?

Smile hahahaha..


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Roy - 02-24-2012

I have some questions about some of the additions

Quote:168. Alpha Male pheromonal signals

What would be the expected results of that one?How would it effect people?

Quote:85. self coaching in real time to make decisions and be effective

Please explain that one.

Quote:175. Limitless

How would that manifest and how far would that go?


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Tigurinn - 02-24-2012

Well, these are my five cents ( Wink ) after having scanned the list quickly:

8. being pursued by women [oh yeah! Having them approach you directly, instead of indirectly which they almost always do - especially in the daytime]
15. Body Language [nothing tells people more that you are an alpha male better than your body language, both standing and walking]
49. go after what you want fearlessly [both girls and material things]
57. approach assistance, with knowing what to say [as well as staying "in set" long enough, and being able to "close the deal", but depending on the alpha male - some just want the phone numbers, others want sex]
58. making others comfortable, feeling appreciated, better about themselves for having been with you [and that is the second most important thing about being an alpha, in my mind; the first being the body language the alpha males display.]

(I've also read multiple times that Elvis had a magnificent presence; that people instantly knew when he had entered a building - one studio musician has stated that he knew when Elvis had arrived on the parking lot and it was an almost electric feeling ... something like that incorporated into Alpha Male sometime would be great)


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Shannon - 02-24-2012

Gentlemen, I have said it before and I will say it again. That list would probably be hard to pack into 12 MORE stages... unless I figure something out that I don't know yet, which is possible. I therefore cannot possibly put that list into the upcoming AM 5.0 release without completely blowing it - or you - away.

To be sure, these are some wonderful suggestions, and I am going to use them to make AM Level II (and Level III if necessary), but there is a good reason I chose FIVE. I knew that just as expected, everyone would pick something different, and we'd end up getting almost the entire damned list back, but that five of them would stand out in that mess, and I believe I can add five without killing the whole set.

To the poster above who counted out what the top five were at his point of posting, you are missing some votes that were left in my thread when I split this thread. Wink

The current most requested, with at least three votes each are:

1: 59 - Self love (4 votes)
2: 1 - Socializing (3 Votes)
3: 4 - instantly recognizing (or knowing beforehand?) and boldly going after opportunities in the moment (3 votes)
4: 18 - Seek the challenge (3 votes)
5: 36 - knowing what you wan, going after it and getting it (3 votes)
6: 112 - Generates own positive state, internal good feelings from within, no need to rely on environment for that (3 votes)
7: 163 - self love, liking and appreciation (3 votes)

So now we have the list down to seven. Time for everyone to vote now on which two of these to jettison, please.

And to answer your questions, Roy:


Quote:I have some questions about some of the additions

Quote:168. Alpha Male pheromonal signals

What would be the expected results of that one?How would it effect people?

This one would likely be fairly subtle for most people if they were not experienced with using artificial pheromones, and very likely difficult for the experienced person to see as well, since the introduction would be so slow and organic, as well as constant. It would consist of adjusting your hygeine slightly to washing your hair, armpits and crotch every second or third day, and just rinsing off the rest of you except for maybe once or twice a week, which would allow for natural buildup of pheromones, plus instructions to ramp up the production of masculine pheromones congruent with an alpha male presence.

The effect, once it fully kicked in, would be to cause others to perceive you through chemosensory awareness at a subconscious level as being alpha, and give you more respect from males and more sexual interest from females, as well as (depending on your particular definition of alpha) possibly more interest from females in romance, relationships and LTR. How much more.. I could not say.

Quote:
Quote:85. self coaching in real time to make decisions and be effective

Please explain that one.

In other words, when confronted with a scary or challenging situation, you would automatically shift to "coach mode" where you would begin working to make the best choices or have the best responses with yourself, kind of like having someone there coaching you.

Quote:
Quote:175. Limitless

How would that manifest and how far would that go?
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"Limitless" would be a mindset without limits. It would probably manifest as a lot less inhibition (if any at all), and a lot more freedom of options, choices and actions that you never realized were options.


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Ryan - 02-24-2012

Hmm didn't Gratitude also get 3 votes? My vote, get rid of 5 and 4.

Ryan


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Tiesto - 02-24-2012

Shannon, I want to contribute and share some of my suggestion. I went through all the list one by one, and I noticed that many of them are pretty redundant, and I think it is possible to narrow down the list.

I will try to list down all of them that are pretty much says the same thing.

So here are some of the list that is pretty much the same, I try to categorize them and use equal sign to indicate the similarities between each of them.


Social Mastery:

1. Socializing. = 42. Social motivation. = 152. Socializing, but not to the point where you feel like you are being pressured to. = 156. become socially powerful. = 176. Manifest supportive social circle.

45. increase and expand social circle. = = 153. Get out and socialize, get social exposure. = 154. enjoy making friends. = 155. manifest new friends and social situations.

57. approach assistance, with knowing what to say

75. Introduce yourself to people as the unofficial host of a gathering, and introducing people to each other, then groups of people to each other.

58. making others comfortable, feeling appreciated, better about themselves for having been with you. = 131. Addictive personality to be around.

132. Comfortable breaking social norms and being outrageous

118. Knows how to have REAL fun everywhere he goes. = 157. outgoing. = 158. fun

174. others automatically give you social proof in every way possible

116. Honest, open, expressive, and direct with everyone and especially woman

120. Effects others more than they effect him, i.e. they react more to him than he to them, i.e.

64. Kill fear of rejection

121. Non reactive without being a robot/stiff-in his own world and sucks others into it

171. disconnection from criticism and criticizing

172. Love, appreciate, see the good in others


Character and Self Mastery

26. being aware of one's own strengths and successes

19. overcome Victim Mentality

27. knowing what to do with, and how to get the most out of one's strengths and values. = 8. Strengthening weaknesses, courage to do so

37. know what you want from yourself, life and women.

21. Self Acceptance. = 46. self acceptance, while desiring to be better than he is. = 59. Self love. = 163. self love, liking and appreciation

51. self forgiveness

52. forgive others

53. disconnect from sexism/racism/*ism

61. kill abandonment issues

65. feeling deservedness

66. permission for everything

67. gratitude

73. stay grounded in reality; own your desires, but be in control of them.

77. Giving in order to give.

80. approach only to give

82. find your purpose

87. passionate

135. Self amusing

166. Positive thinking/positive attitude

161. has his stuff together

134. Offers value

164. reject and destroy permission-seeking within yourself.

173. compassion for self and others

2. Mood enhancements = 33. unflappable calm. = 40. Always calm, confident and in control concerning himself his life and women he encounters.

50. Kill fear, guilt, shame, doubt, self loating

104. Still very capable of kindness, heart, and love, but doesn't wear heart on his sleeve

20. Comfortable with people staring at you

56. Eye contact

76. Total detachment from any outcome.

102. Take no shit attitude

103. Don't give a f--xx attitude

105. Self directed but able to learn and follow when appropriate

128. Never qualifies himself-people qualify to him

129. Not possessive, knows how to let participate and not always dominant

90. Destroy all insecurities. = 91. stronger, more solid confidence in everything. = 93. genuinely comfortable wherever he is, whatever is happening, and whomever he is with.

39. Knows himself, who he is, and is unafraid to express his true personality around others. Unconcerned with judgement, ridicule, etc. for it. = 48. stop caring, just have fun = 96. Doesn't care what others think.

47. ego balancing. = 126. Confident enough to know when to put ego aside

98. Self focused-he is the star of his own movie the CENTER of his world. = 99. Hold's 100% strong reality and belief in himself with zero argumentativeness. 100. Has positive self feedback loop. = 107. Completely centered but incredibly outgoing. = 112. Generates own positive state, internal good feelings from within, no need to rely on environment for that. = 119. Naturally becomes the center of attention without trying and is comfortable with it. = 122. Believes in himself and his positive sense of self worth/sense of self over anything else that occurs.

114. Comes across as authentic and congruent because he is

130. Knows any woman would be lucky to have him-'rejection' is her loss, not his-like REALLY

159. self secure

160. high self esteem

142. Compares himself to himself and no one else


Taking Initiatives and Getting Things Done:

4. instantly recognizing (or knowing beforehand?) and boldly going after opportunities in the moment. 3. decisiveness. = 106. Decisive. = 85. self coaching in real time to make decisions and be effective. = 18. Seek the Challenge. 23. initiative, overcoming laziness, do what needs to be done. = 36. knowing what you want, going after what you want, getting it. = 49. Go after what you want fearlessly. = 81. kill laziness. = 89. driven from within

137. Time is very important for him, very valuable asset and never wastes it

136. Stays busy and productive-doing what he loves to do/wants to do/enjoys doing/ does for the sake of growth/ progress


Unlimited Success

7. success. = 170. make it happen

95. Lives with personal fulfillment as baseline state yet still strives for success

180. abundance mindset

141. Never gets hung up on 'failures'-knows failures are part of success and those who succeed the most fail the most


Leadership Mastery:

5. Leadership. = 38. Comfortable and confident taking the lead in all situations (social, etc.) = 111. Leads when appropriate. = 123. Displays confidence and dominance. = 124. Doesn't look for approval, doesn't ask, isn't 'pinging' socially, he tells and leads and is one step ahead.

179. honor


Fear Mastery:

9. Pushing to overcome fears/overcoming/destroying them 34. stepping outside comfort zone in all areas 35. Dealing with fear of success and fear of failure. = 84. action in the face of fear/anxiety for personal growth. = 115. Never back's down unless the situation is life threatening. = 139. either fearless or comfortable with fear and pushing through it. = 177. courage. = 178. bravery


Body Language Mastery

6. Body relaxation/comfort. = 15. Body Language. = 55. Consciously be aware of, understand and know what body language means. = 31. graceful movement.

13. reading body language, subtle signals = 150. observing subtle clues and body language from women, and being confident in what they mean.


Projection of Masculine Presence

14. Presence. = 68. full expression of masculine power. = 69. full presence, self connection, natural flow of self outwardly. = 74. Bold, brave expression of masculine desires. = 16. masculine, commanding, sexy Voice

94. Feels Passionate and virile, masculine badass

110. Incredible compelling and magnetic, respect from guys, crazy attraction from girls

117. Knows and feels like the f--xxing man and expects to be treated as such

168. alpha male pheromonal signals

30. charm = 32. charisma


Good Sense of Humor

78. Automatically and purposely take things in a way that is funny = 79. playful bantering for humor = 113. Humorous. = 162. jokes around with others, especially women, and is playful

133. Makes others laugh and feel good about themselves-people tend to get sucked into

his reality-he is incredibly interesting and makes them just feel comfortable

146. Humor in the face of life but still total attention to it.


Maturity

86. see yourself as a man, instead of a boy = 143. See's himself as a man

151. Being your own Alpha Male.


Mind Mastery

17. Rejecting negativity/positive thinking

24. inspiration

25. clarity of mind

88. congruent mind/body

92. increased self control and willpower

101. Ability to effortlessly put focus where it matters

148. rejecting negative experiences, but also learning from it, and being focused on the positive experiences and also learning from that.

167. balance your brain hemispheres

175. Limitless




Maybe the multiple redundant statements could be fine-tuned/optimized to become one statement that captures the essence?


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - jonathanzx10 - 02-24-2012

Shannon, there are two votes for 14-presence, and two votes for 69- full presence, self connection, natural flow of self outwardly. I think you should combine those.


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Roy - 02-24-2012

Quote:1: 59 - Self love (4 votes)
2: 1 - Socializing (3 Votes)
3: 4 - instantly recognizing (or knowing beforehand?) and boldly going after opportunities in the moment (3 votes)
4: 18 - Seek the challenge (3 votes)
5: 36 - knowing what you wan, going after it and getting it (3 votes)
6: 112 - Generates own positive state, internal good feelings from within, no need to rely on environment for that (3 votes)
7: 163 - self love, liking and appreciation (3 votes)

So now we have the list down to seven. Time for everyone to vote now on which two of these to jettison, please.

Jettision seek the challenge,it would be great inside,however I am already using it now and the self love,liking and appreciation.

Shannon,can you still put the limitless and self coaching in real time to make decisions and be effective inside?I really like those and think they
would be brilliant in addition to the alpha core.


RE: Which FIVE of these shall I put in AM 5.0? - Shannon - 02-24-2012

Tiesto, I appreciate the effort, but that list is raw. I haven't tried to combine anything similar yet, and also, similar does not mean equal to. This field is extremely specific when it comes to scripting. For instance, "success" programming definitely does not equal "make it happen" programming.