(12-16-2025, 03:55 AM)callie Wrote: If you’re comfortable sharing, can I ask a bit about the kind of trauma you were/are working with?

I’m trying to better understand why certain healing subliminals seem to land very differently for different people. Totally understand if you’d rather not go into it

(12-17-2025, 11:46 AM)Frosted Wrote:

(12-16-2025, 03:55 AM)callie Wrote: If you’re comfortable sharing, can I ask a bit about the kind of trauma you were/are working with?

I’m trying to better understand why certain healing subliminals seem to land very differently for different people. Totally understand if you’d rather not go into it

Ask away. I'll share what I'm comfortable with. 

To give you a general overview: For whatever reason, as a kid I was very sensitive. Maybe it was a condition, personality trait, whatever. The point is, is that I had very thin skin, so everything negative that happened to me was amplified. My peers picked on me and excluded me constantly. I had a very authoritarian helicopter parent who gaslit me and optimized me for obedience rather than supporting and nourishing me. Teachers neglected me and let the kids bully me. Basically I got cannibalized by the world around me.

(12-18-2025, 06:51 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:

(12-17-2025, 11:46 AM)Frosted Wrote: Ask away. I'll share what I'm comfortable with. 

To give you a general overview: For whatever reason, as a kid I was very sensitive. Maybe it was a condition, personality trait, whatever. The point is, is that I had very thin skin, so everything negative that happened to me was amplified. My peers picked on me and excluded me constantly. I had a very authoritarian helicopter parent who gaslit me and optimized me for obedience rather than supporting and nourishing me. Teachers neglected me and let the kids bully me. Basically I got cannibalized by the world around me.

Boy, can I relate to that stuff. I hope the sub works the wonders I'm expecting it will.  I'd love to see you get past all that and be happy bro.

(12-17-2025, 11:46 AM)Frosted Wrote:

(12-16-2025, 03:55 AM)callie Wrote: If you’re comfortable sharing, can I ask a bit about the kind of trauma you were/are working with?

I’m trying to better understand why certain healing subliminals seem to land very differently for different people. Totally understand if you’d rather not go into it

Ask away. I'll share what I'm comfortable with. 

To give you a general overview: For whatever reason, as a kid I was very sensitive. Maybe it was a condition, personality trait, whatever. The point is, is that I had very thin skin, so everything negative that happened to me was amplified. My peers picked on me and excluded me constantly. I had a very authoritarian helicopter parent who gaslit me and optimized me for obedience rather than supporting and nourishing me. Teachers neglected me and let the kids bully me. Basically I got cannibalized by the world around me.

(12-18-2025, 11:23 AM)Frosted Wrote:

(12-18-2025, 06:51 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Boy, can I relate to that stuff. I hope the sub works the wonders I'm expecting it will.  I'd love to see you get past all that and be happy bro.

Don't worry, after years of healing subs I'm a lot better now. I still have a ways to go, but I'm no longer in hell.

(12-18-2025, 01:03 PM)callie Wrote:

(12-17-2025, 11:46 AM)Frosted Wrote: Ask away. I'll share what I'm comfortable with. 

To give you a general overview: For whatever reason, as a kid I was very sensitive. Maybe it was a condition, personality trait, whatever. The point is, is that I had very thin skin, so everything negative that happened to me was amplified. My peers picked on me and excluded me constantly. I had a very authoritarian helicopter parent who gaslit me and optimized me for obedience rather than supporting and nourishing me. Teachers neglected me and let the kids bully me. Basically I got cannibalized by the world around me.

Alright, thanks for sharing. Did attachment issues ever feel central to your trauma, especially very early on, or not really?

(12-18-2025, 06:35 PM)Frosted Wrote:

(12-18-2025, 01:03 PM)callie Wrote: Alright, thanks for sharing. Did attachment issues ever feel central to your trauma, especially very early on, or not really?

I think my trauma was the result of being starved of the psychological nutrients I needed to grow properly and basically being psychologically beaten into the ground by my environment. As far as attachment issues, I don't think about it in an orthodox clinical sense. I view it like my psyche was basically on life support by the time I was an adult. And I'm not saying that from the perspective of a spoiled ungrateful kid. I understand how messed up I was, and the fact that I was able to come so far is a testament to Shannon's products. It's about like somebody in critical condition getting some kind of experimental surgery and being miraculously healed.

Thinking about it, I wouldn't say attachment issues were central to my condition, because my condition was much larger scope than that. It was just another huge issue among other huge issues that I had to deal with.

(12-19-2025, 02:03 AM)callie Wrote:

(12-18-2025, 06:35 PM)Frosted Wrote: I think my trauma was the result of being starved of the psychological nutrients I needed to grow properly and basically being psychologically beaten into the ground by my environment. As far as attachment issues, I don't think about it in an orthodox clinical sense. I view it like my psyche was basically on life support by the time I was an adult. And I'm not saying that from the perspective of a spoiled ungrateful kid. I understand how messed up I was, and the fact that I was able to come so far is a testament to Shannon's products. It's about like somebody in critical condition getting some kind of experimental surgery and being miraculously healed.

Thinking about it, I wouldn't say attachment issues were central to my condition, because my condition was much larger scope than that. It was just another huge issue among other huge issues that I had to deal with.

Ok, I’m not entirely sure what you mean by “larger in scope”. When I asked about attachment, I wasn’t thinking of it as one issue among others in a clinical checklist sense. Attachment is generally seen as a foundational developmental framework, not a discrete issue alongside others

People can be severely traumatized with or without attachment being central, it’s just that when attachment is central, the overall structure of the trauma, the recovery process, and how certain interventions land tend to look very different, especially ones that bypass relational safety. That difference is why I asked

I appreciate you taking the time

(12-19-2025, 04:02 AM)Frosted Wrote:

(12-19-2025, 02:03 AM)callie Wrote: Ok, I’m not entirely sure what you mean by “larger in scope”. When I asked about attachment, I wasn’t thinking of it as one issue among others in a clinical checklist sense. Attachment is generally seen as a foundational developmental framework, not a discrete issue alongside others

People can be severely traumatized with or without attachment being central, it’s just that when attachment is central, the overall structure of the trauma, the recovery process, and how certain interventions land tend to look very different, especially ones that bypass relational safety. That difference is why I asked

I appreciate you taking the time

Oh okay. Yeah to be honest I'm not too sure. It's kind of all a blur to me since I'm in a different emotional state than back then. I can't remember how I felt, I just know how bad it used to be even if I can't feel it in my memory anymore. I don't know for sure how much the rest of my trauma was based on attachment, but I'm certain I had severe attachment issues.