(05-26-2016, 09:13 AM)Nox Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 08:55 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: Alpha, when I was on AOS I had guys unconsciously staring at my dick and unconsciously touching there's. And as far as I knew they were full hetero. WTF is that? Lol. Don't give me the fear thing again. A day doesn't just consist of going to the club. And like I said it's 5.5G, meaning it's much much more powerful. So yeah safeties please.

Sarge, definitely there will always be attention from men but with a "limiter" it won't be completely loose.

Guys check out other dudes dicks just as often as women. Not always due to attraction but comparison. I've been people watching for years and I'd almost say guys check out dicks more than ladies.

(05-26-2016, 02:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: So what you're saying is, turn it into AM and SM? That's what this list reads like. Makes me think you should do E2, then an AM refresher and then SM again.

This is designed to generate an aura of sexual irresistibility for those you are sexually attracted to. There are some things in here that I can use, but most of this sounds like you'd be happier doing what I suggested above. At the risk of losing a sale here, I think you're getting excited at the prospect of a magic bullet. That's why you got so disappointed with your response to SM. There is no magic bullet, my friend, it will still require that you have the foundation. AOSI is going to make you as sexy as possible within your current framework, but it's not designed to really grow you into anything.

Are you sure you wouldn't do better with E2, AM refresher and then SM?

(05-26-2016, 11:44 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 09:12 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:57 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:43 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:31 AM)terry44 Wrote: With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

That would be true if you could avoid all danger with rational thought, but you can't. If a mad dog or crazy human attacked you in a completely unpredictable way, for example, the fear would produce hormones that could save your life. They would give you much greater strength and energy to fight or run away. Without fear you would be at a great disadvantage in that situation.

that's not fear though, that's adrenaline, not fear.

You are wrong actually, adrenaline is produced by the fight or flight response, which is triggered by fear. In fact, adrenaline has even been called the hormone of fear, although it can also be produced by anger. People who suffer from chronic stress are suffering from chronic fear and have abnormally high levels of adrenaline, which should only occur in short bursts. If it is present all the time it can do a lot of damage to the body.

This link shows how fear works to produce Epinephrine (aka adrenaline): http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/emotions/fear2.htm

Quote:Thanx for the compliment dude,a compliments a compliment but I ALREADY HAVE A DICK ,I DONT NEED ANOTHER ONE!

(05-26-2016, 04:06 AM)dweller94 Wrote:

(05-24-2016, 05:48 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(05-24-2016, 04:49 PM)dweller94 Wrote: holy hell!

Shannon will the manifestation part of the script include something similar or along the lines of this:

"The beautiful women I attract now effortlessly approach me and act on their interest and attraction in obvious, aggressive and direct ways."

That was in BIATBW but wasn't included in the BIATBWS's script last time I checked, just thought I'd mention this.

Mebbe. We shall see. I'm working on the OE section right now. Haven't gotten that far.

Is that a yes then?

(05-26-2016, 04:32 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 03:23 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Maybe we should start a thread with a poll about this question once and for all:

In my opinion using statement in the script to repels dudes (unwanted attention) is not helping us, quiet the opposite. One of the main issue here I think come from that western society is fearful about homosexual, especially male homosexuality. This behavior is based on fear and ignorance. It's even destructive to the heterosexual man, it gives sexual power away. First there is a part of social proof that is removed. Then there is fear from men when intimacy is involved, some are fearful to express emotion or are shameful because people will see them as gay. There is also jealousy, if men were as open as women about homosexuality women would have less control on us because we would have more choice, women would be more jealous. Women are not afraid to go full homo/bisexual and that way they gain sexual power because we are the one losing a possibility for sexual freedom.

Shannon you said that in some case you don't listen to your customer because their view are wrong, I think it's a case where education is required, being fearful about homosexuality is not a normal behavior from an Alpha male. We should be able to deal with that with an open mind. We are losing power away. A lot of guys here complain that SM3 or WM2 or AM6 or AOS is not powerful enough, this is one way to make it more powerful, that is if we are able to handle a guy hitting on us, do we want to be an alpha male or not? is an alpha male afraid to be hit by gay dudes?

if we are not able to do that, well it's disappointing

Maybe you could have two separate subs for different opinions on this. It would probably only be a small tweak. I don't think you can 'educate' men into enjoying the sexual interest of other men, just as you probably can't 'educate' gay men into enjoying the sexual interest of women. I personally would not welcome the interest of men, just as I wouldn't particularly enjoy the interest of obese women with moustaches. Or am I being narrow minded and in need of education there?

(05-26-2016, 05:05 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: If you're still taking suggestions Shannon (I didn't have time to read through all those sudden posts yet), then make the aura make women extremely submissive and compliant to you and make her want to do anything you say because she's so horny (maybe also just in general).

Also I think this one's already in there, but just in case: make women (or I guess whatever sex you like :p) have an uncontrollable urge to have sex with you and makes them pursue and think about sex with you, especially the closer you are to them. Make it an uncontrollable need that short circuits their brain.

Also make it so that women (gender neutral I know lol) can't help but notice you wherever you go (and can't stop staring, almost against their will >) and make yourself completely and supremely comfortable as the center of attention.

(05-26-2016, 05:06 AM)maxx55 Wrote: Try to fit in as many of CatMan's suggestions as possible please Shannon (mainly the abundance mindset and girls becoming addicted part :p)! Reading it, I totally thought it read like a mini AM/SM combo, but that's GREAT for people who haven't done the full 6 stage programs.

The only thing that I could add would be to KNOW either psychically or on an energetic level that the girl (in my case) wants to have sex. Also, knowing if they are dominant or submissive would be nice. And DEFINITELY adding in manifestations of a wide variety of hot girls (again, in my case) to quickly and effortlessly come into your life as lovers, FWBs, and MLTRs (They constantly approach you too). I think that's the biggest thing

If the manifestations I suggested are added in, I know I will totally get this sometime down the line!

Edit: Also, if you could make it so that the fully accomplished goals of the program rewrite our past memories to make us believe that we've always been that sexy and hot and attractive, that'd be awesome too! I know you said you were working on that technology somewhere.

(05-26-2016, 05:19 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 05:15 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: "Freak out", "creeped out", it's based on fear as I just said.

You can be freaked out by something without being scared of it. Like I said before, obese women with moustaches create no fear in me whatsoever, but the thought of sleeping with one would freak me out.

(05-26-2016, 05:21 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 04:59 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: Shannon also has to think about his future customers and the ones that don't write much or at all in the forum. Sooo, if let's say 11 out of 9 say they like being checked out and fantasized by men, that really doesn't say much.

And I would like to add that making women extremely wet and this stuff is just perverted and no healthy man would want that. We still want to live our normal lifes and have normal interactions. Not everyone is desperate.

I find how Shannon described it is how it should be "become as sexy and attractive as you can be". Of course without things going out if control which will just backfire.

Unconditional love, gratitude, deservedness and any other positive and healthy additions are always good.

You are derailing the subject or you doesn't understand. No one say they liked being checked out and it's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is to make the sub less bloated and remove a limitation. The goal of the sub to begin with is not to remove unwanted attention from males, it's about being sexy/attractive. If I go even further Shannon could create a sub specifically to remove unwanted attention from males but I don't think he has the time and most people would be able to deal with it without any sub because it is a trivial thing to being with.

Edit:
A question someone could ask himself is the following: if Shannon would create a sub specifically to remove unwanted attention from men would you use it, would you waste your time with that when you could use another sub?

(05-26-2016, 06:33 AM)kenpachi Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 06:24 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 06:14 AM)kenpachi Wrote: If the anti-gay scripting has no negative impact whatsoever on your overall attractiveness levels, whatever, I don't care.

If for the anti-gay scripting to work it means we have to be less attractive overall in order to not attract men, is it worth it?

You can attract more women and tell gay men you're not interested, or attract less women so that gay men don't get interested. Which one's preferable?

It would be ideal if the scripting was focussed on straight women and not doing anything at all to gay men.

Agreed Terry, but I think a sexy person is a sexy person and will attract both genders.

If your brain is telling you to not be sexy to men and sexy to women, it creates a conflict. It's like telling your brain to be taller and not grow in height at the same time. Maybe Shannon could chime in and say whether he thinks repelling one gender is possible without repelling the other?