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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Frankie - 07-27-2025
(07-27-2025, 11:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:Since I was saving each and every version of *.zip files on my Linux box, 2012 turned out to be a different one in 4G called Develop an Aura of Sexiness 2.0:(07-27-2025, 01:13 AM)Buz Wrote: When did v1 and v2 come out and what generation were they? I've been using different versions of DMSI since 2016, but think all of them were v3 onwards.
I'm just curious, I have no issue with buying the next one. ?
I was gonna say 2011, 2012, but the wayback machine seems to contradict that.
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2012-08-02 10:48:56 ..... 71924292 60218351 Develop_An_Aura_of_Sexiness_2-0_4G/Develop_An_Aura_Of_Sexiness_2-0_4G_(Ocean_Surf).mp3
2012-08-02 10:42:28 ..... 71940996 38522426 Develop_An_Aura_of_Sexiness_2-0_4G/Develop_An_Aura_Of_Sexiness_2-0_4G_(Silent).mp3
2012-08-02 10:46:06 ..... 71922204 60225057 Develop_An_Aura_of_Sexiness_2-0_4G/Develop_An_Aura_Of_Sexiness_2-0_4G_(Trickling_Stream).mp3Then you posted this on another thread by the end of May 2016:
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion?pid=111377#pid111377
Shannon Wrote:Okay, AOSI is uploaded and I can go home. I'll be back when I'm recharged and refueled.
That's exactly the same date for v1:
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2016-05-30 11:59:10 ..... 448499775 448555752 Develop_An_Aura_Of_Sexual_Irresistibility_5_5G_Masked_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf).flac
2016-05-30 11:59:51 ..... 504970778 505051244 Develop_An_Aura_Of_Sexual_Irresistibility_5_5G_Masked_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream).flac
2016-05-30 12:01:03 ..... 313450569 308443811 Develop_An_Aura_Of_Sexual_Irresistibility_5_5G_Ultrasonic_Subliminal_(Silent).flacAnd then v2.5 should be the final release of v2:
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2016-10-13 10:17:42 ..... 579376737 579455726 DMSI-V2_5-Masked_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf).flac
2016-10-13 10:18:02 ..... 648721072 648825362 DMSI-V2_5-Masked_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream).flac
2016-10-13 10:18:20 ..... 352580868 349866779 DMSI-V2_5-Ultrasonic_Subliminal_(Silent).flacHybrid tracks were available afterwards, then the very first release of v3 should be uploaded at the end of November / beginning of December:
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2016-11-30 13:22:40 ..... 524912436 524996424 DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf_Ultrasonic).flac
2016-11-30 13:23:09 ..... 545880684 545968113 DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream_Ultrasonic).flac
2016-11-30 13:23:23 ..... 419052356 419109852 DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Masked_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf).flac
2016-11-30 13:23:40 ..... 466343057 466417895 DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Masked_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream).flac
2016-11-30 13:23:55 ..... 307223544 306573244 DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Ultrasonic_Subliminal_(Silent).flacCode:
2016-12-01 07:40:00 ..... 542494492 542580002 DMSI_V3_0_1_B_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf_Ultrasonic).flac
2016-12-01 07:40:20 ..... 566147700 566238504 DMSI_V3_0_1_B_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream_Ultrasonic).flac
2016-12-01 07:40:35 ..... 434526745 434585320 DMSI_V3_0_1_B_Masked_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf).flac
2016-12-01 07:40:47 ..... 486018472 486096252 DMSI_V3_0_1_B_Masked_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream).flac
2016-12-01 07:40:59 ..... 312410061 311537868 DMSI_V3_0_1_B_Ultrasonic_Subliminal_(Silent).flacFYI - my time zone is UTC as shown below:
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$ cat /etc/timezone
UTCIf there were no further changes down the road, that could tell us a little bit more about how to estimate the "cut-off" date.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Catman - 07-27-2025
(07-26-2025, 06:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:(07-26-2025, 03:16 PM)Have at ye Wrote: Very interesting news about DMSI v5. Really amazed us old-timers who got on the train early are going to get it for free, I wasn't expecting that.
I am following what the models advised me to do, which coincides relatively well with what the polls suggested as well.
Quote:One question though - is it going to be shield-compatible? My experiences on X4A would indicate for me it'd be necessary, as I'm getting tremendous amounts of hostility or even outright aggression on it, so DRS v2 is a lifesaver.
You should be able to use a shield with it, but given the complexity, etc. I will have to model whether maybe it should be included in this case, or if not, whether there will be special instructions or restrictions. Good question.
Hello again, @Shannon!
I'm surprised by the news of DMSI on the horizon. I thought it'd be a way off in the future. Then again, maybe I'm just used to this long road we've been on with 6G development etc., huh?
It's going to take some getting used to...that maybe indeed the "future", is now, at long last, the "present"...
That said, two quick things:
1. Can we get confirmation that the key script improvement for yours and I's "Abyss" if you will, have been, or will be implemented for subs going forward? Including DMSI? I say this because I don't want anyone going through that deep, dark, hellish death camp experience you and I did...it was...enough...but also for selfish reasons because I'd rather have an easier time going forward, hahaha....
2. If ever there was a sub that needed a solid DRSV2(3?), it's DMSI V5! That sub would no doubt create a lot of attention, not all positive, especially from "haters". I think anecdotally, as I haven't used a DRS for a long time, but it seems to have an effect even through me if that helps...and for one specific person which is very helpful to me.
I understand we only have so much "horsepower" to deal with, and DMSI already will need so much. Never mind whatever version number of FRM is installed which needs it's own resources to process things. Overall, I know energy is finite. Just saying a full DRS should be at least strongly considered because if the program can finally stretch it's legs the way we have wanted it to...it'll be deeply necessary...unfortunately.
I would love a fully powered DMSI ideally to really see what it can do, but I see the value in DRS for this sub. That's a real tough one to call.
Fantastic progress, Shannon. It's true, you can't please everyone.
Maybe try this. Keep your policy as is for now. If some of us "early adopters" start to do well with it, and you feel charitable, open the free update up to the other versions as you see fit. Maybe a reduced price, otherwise.
Truthfully, one of your reasons for the creation of the program, was to mine data for the creation of 6G. Stands to reason a person who bought in at V2, or even like myself at V1...their data would be far more plentiful to help you develop over the years than someone who jumped on at the end of the line. At least with the early adopters you got more feedback and data to improve things, so the trade off was much more balanced and fair for you. So I see your hesitation on opening it up to free for every version ever.
If you end up needing some more data from testers to decide if the program works and if a premium down the road is prudent, maybe THEN considering opening it up version by version to get more data. Maybe a reduced price for it, and go one version at a time if you want to minimise potential losses.
Truthfully though, if a couple of us "hard cases" start crushing it...I think that's really all the data you'll need, haha...we'll see what happens!
EPHRA is the next program, apparently? Well done Shannon, great choice. Logical with OGSF already made. That program will help a lot of people. I've had good experience with earlier versions in the past. Three of them at least I've ran, one inside AM6. Great stuff.
P.S. For Frankie, and for Shannon...I downloaded the ORIGINAL sales page for DAOSI back then when it came out...lmao...going to be in a museum someday! Epic.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - HMoody - 07-27-2025
I second Catman's suggestion that DRS should be included if possible in the new version of DMSI since I can see this program needing it.
Hopefully the Models you run reflect the same @Shannon
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Frosted - 07-28-2025
@Shannon Congratulations on releasing EPHRA7! If everything goes well I plan to buy it by the end of the year. Also I appreciate you making DMSI free for V1 and V2 users. I happen to benefit from this, so thank you ;P.
Do you ever plan on upgrading Maverick to 6G? I did a search to see if you already answered this, but the only thing I could find on this was a quote from you that could be interpreted as “Maverick’s core will never be changed”, or “Maverick will never be upgraded in any capacity at all, not even to a higher technology level”.
I ask because Maverick is something I really like the idea of running after I have a solid base. There’s something extremely appealing about becoming a living embodiment of personal power, done in my own style that is unique to me. To see how far I can go and who I can become, all for its own sake. Sure AM7 will exist soon, but something about Maverick calls to me as well. I would be disappointed if a potential masterpiece program concept like Maverick never saw an upgrade to 6G.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - LiquidMind - 07-28-2025
I wonder about the TID effects with 6g, i cant remember how long the effect can start before the subliminal is released and not everyone gets it but it'd be an easy bet to say it will be stronger with stronger tech.
Any ideas on this? @Shannon
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - lano1106 - 07-28-2025
(07-26-2025, 06:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:(07-26-2025, 02:55 PM)ffaux Wrote: If 3.x wasn’t experimental enough for a free upgrade, does that mean those of us who purchased 3.x, followed the instructions, and didn’t see results are eligible for refunds?
That's a clever workaround. But here's the problem. On the one hand, that seems perfectly reasonable to me... but then, we can't give refunds if PayPal will not allow it, and they only allow a 90 day window, IIRC.
Okay, so what about GCs? Well, if I issue GCs for those who didn't get results, what is to stop everyone from just saying they didn't get results, and requesting the GC to lower the price, regardless of how well it actually worked?
This is a fair compromise. I have just checked my files and I got onboard the DMSI bandwagon with DMSI 3.1 in July 2017... to be fair, I got some results... I had a very fun fling that last 3-4 months... but it did stopped afterward... the fun I had was certainly worth the $229 I paid for DMSI back in 2017... I would not mind paying to get a new version of the program...
the problem that I have is that it seems like the program prices have increased so much that I cannot afford them anymore...
(despite using UMSv2 nonstop for the last 4 years or so... I have to contact customer support on that topic)
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - samba99 - 07-31-2025
Hi shannon,
Any update on DMSI?
Please share some stuff, dont hold back. Any exciting features or updates beside updating the script?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - HD87 - 08-01-2025
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