(07-22-2020, 03:27 AM)ichigo Wrote:

(07-20-2020, 12:40 PM)Raz Wrote: I am shedding tons of body armor (in the sense of Wilhelm Reich) through extensive body work.

Hi @Raz, that's interesting, I'm trying to do the same via meditation, visualization, foam rolling and tense/releasing. Have you come across any techniques or books you would recommend that focus on this? Thanks man.

(07-22-2020, 02:15 PM)Raz Wrote: You certainly understand your programs best, Shannon. I realize that it is unwise to stray from the instructions and in time, I am sure, I will come around. But for a little while longer I will indulge my craving to use OF this* way

Thank you for your always tireless concern though.

*6 loops per day, every day

(07-22-2020, 02:47 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Shannon, when you say things like use volume 14/16 - does this relate to mobile phone speakers? what about connected to other speakers with amplification and volume?

for example, i have an android at 14/16 connected to power speakers using ultra sonic MIR 5.75
i would say its quite "loud", when i test it with hybrid for example for calibration.
when i sleep, Frequensee is showing -50db at my ears, which is about 3m from the speakers.

Are these the right settings? will these setting apply for other subs like OF 5.75?

(07-22-2020, 04:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 02:47 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Shannon, when you say things like use volume 14/16 - does this relate to mobile phone speakers? what about connected to other speakers with amplification and volume?

for example, i have an android at 14/16 connected to power speakers using ultra sonic MIR 5.75
i would say its quite "loud", when i test it with hybrid for example for calibration.
when i sleep, Frequensee is showing -50db at my ears, which is about 3m from the speakers.

Are these the right settings? will these setting apply for other subs like OF 5.75?

When I say 13/15 I mean "playing from the onboard speaker of an Android phone.  14/16 on iPhone, or 26/30 on a Google phone (I think it was Google phone) is the equivalent.  Whatever the volume is at the speaker, that is the volume you want to use on whatever other player/external speakers if possible.  The exception is headphones or earbuds.  I don't use those, so I haven't figured out the optimal volume for them.  But it would be way too loud on headphones or earbuds at 13/15 I suspect, and you shouldn't use ultrasonic on them anyway.

It doesn't matter what the volume is at your ear, because volume falls off at the square of the distance from the source, and your ear moves around.  You need to match it at the source.

(07-22-2020, 05:32 PM)NOMAD Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 04:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 02:47 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Shannon, when you say things like use volume 14/16 - does this relate to mobile phone speakers? what about connected to other speakers with amplification and volume?

for example, i have an android at 14/16 connected to power speakers using ultra sonic MIR 5.75
i would say its quite "loud", when i test it with hybrid for example for calibration.
when i sleep, Frequensee is showing -50db at my ears, which is about 3m from the speakers.

Are these the right settings? will these setting apply for other subs like OF 5.75?

When I say 13/15 I mean "playing from the onboard speaker of an Android phone.  14/16 on iPhone, or 26/30 on a Google phone (I think it was Google phone) is the equivalent.  Whatever the volume is at the speaker, that is the volume you want to use on whatever other player/external speakers if possible.  The exception is headphones or earbuds.  I don't use those, so I haven't figured out the optimal volume for them.  But it would be way too loud on headphones or earbuds at 13/15 I suspect, and you shouldn't use ultrasonic on them anyway.

It doesn't matter what the volume is at your ear, because volume falls off at the square of the distance from the source, and your ear moves around.  You need to match it at the source.

I use earbuds on an Android phone and set the volume of 10-11/15 (whatever is most comfortable.) Maybe try starting at that level. 

 I use the hybrid Triclikng Stream .flac format.

(07-22-2020, 05:32 PM)NOMAD Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 04:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 02:47 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Shannon, when you say things like use volume 14/16 - does this relate to mobile phone speakers? what about connected to other speakers with amplification and volume?

for example, i have an android at 14/16 connected to power speakers using ultra sonic MIR 5.75
i would say its quite "loud", when i test it with hybrid for example for calibration.
when i sleep, Frequensee is showing -50db at my ears, which is about 3m from the speakers.

Are these the right settings? will these setting apply for other subs like OF 5.75?

When I say 13/15 I mean "playing from the onboard speaker of an Android phone.  14/16 on iPhone, or 26/30 on a Google phone (I think it was Google phone) is the equivalent.  Whatever the volume is at the speaker, that is the volume you want to use on whatever other player/external speakers if possible.  The exception is headphones or earbuds.  I don't use those, so I haven't figured out the optimal volume for them.  But it would be way too loud on headphones or earbuds at 13/15 I suspect, and you shouldn't use ultrasonic on them anyway.

It doesn't matter what the volume is at your ear, because volume falls off at the square of the distance from the source, and your ear moves around.  You need to match it at the source.

I use earbuds on an Android phone and set the volume of 10-11/15 (whatever is most comfortable.) Maybe try starting at that level. 

 I use the hybrid Triclikng Stream .flac format.

(07-22-2020, 05:57 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 05:32 PM)NOMAD Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 04:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 02:47 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Shannon, when you say things like use volume 14/16 - does this relate to mobile phone speakers? what about connected to other speakers with amplification and volume?

for example, i have an android at 14/16 connected to power speakers using ultra sonic MIR 5.75
i would say its quite "loud", when i test it with hybrid for example for calibration.
when i sleep, Frequensee is showing -50db at my ears, which is about 3m from the speakers.

Are these the right settings? will these setting apply for other subs like OF 5.75?

When I say 13/15 I mean "playing from the onboard speaker of an Android phone.  14/16 on iPhone, or 26/30 on a Google phone (I think it was Google phone) is the equivalent.  Whatever the volume is at the speaker, that is the volume you want to use on whatever other player/external speakers if possible.  The exception is headphones or earbuds.  I don't use those, so I haven't figured out the optimal volume for them.  But it would be way too loud on headphones or earbuds at 13/15 I suspect, and you shouldn't use ultrasonic on them anyway.

It doesn't matter what the volume is at your ear, because volume falls off at the square of the distance from the source, and your ear moves around.  You need to match it at the source.

I use earbuds on an Android phone and set the volume of 10-11/15 (whatever is most comfortable.) Maybe try starting at that level. 

 I use the hybrid Triclikng Stream .flac format.

Hybrid includes ultrasonic.  That is not a wise thing to do on earbuds.  Especially on earbuds.  The volume from the speaker does not equate.  it is much higher, relatively, through earbuds.  It can potentially also damage your hearing to listen to ultrasonic that loud through earbuds.

(07-20-2020, 11:08 PM)UniversalMan Wrote:

(07-20-2020, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-19-2020, 10:59 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: @Shannon I think I will have to stop OF and start MHS, as some physical conditions have got worse now.
I am planning to listen it alongside with DRS and than get back to OF as soon as possible, just tell me in your opinion, how long break should I take in between?

Before I answer your question, I will ask some of my own.

Why do you think the physical conditions have gotten worse?  Is this just coincidence, or is some part of you trying to give you "reasons" to switch, or trying to make you miserable enough to switch (threats)?  Is this running away?  

If your conditions have worsened for reasons other than using OF, then it would seem reasonable to use MHS to try to help them.  But if they're suddenly getting worse because your subconscious is trying to disincentivize you to use OF and instead encourage you to use something else, I think it is wiser to simply find a different usage pattern and keep going with OF.

In my case, I have been met with overwhelming exhaustion.  So I lowered the volume slightly.  I could also have switched formats, changed the number of loops per day, days on, days off... but I'm trying to follow the instructions and still change variables to make this possible.  So I changed the volume by lowering it a little bit.

If this is an effort to get you to switch programs, ask yourself: are you looking at having those physical conditions as a result of some part of your subconscious causing them for some reason that is completely illogical?  If they are caused by your own subconscious, why?  Them getting worse, in what appears (given my limited information here) to be a reaction to OF, trying to get you to stop using it, suggests that they may exist in the first place as a result of some part of you attempting to prevent or avoid something, even before using OF.  Them getting worse (if it is in response to OF) hints that they may be a way to avoid something you fear, and as such are being made worse by the part of you that generated them in the first place, again, to avoid something feared.

If that is the case, then is it really going to be a good idea to switch?  Or would you be better staying the course and getting rid of the fear that us behind them?

Of course I'm asking questions because I don't have enough information to judge.  But I want you to consider these possibilities before you switch to something else.  When the going gets tough, those who run away don't achieve the goals.  Make sure you're not just running away.

Well, this inflammation I have, started a few months ago before OF was even made, and when buying OF I hesitated if to buy OF or to buy MHS, but still went with OF (cause I have problems with some unaddressable fears and would like to get rid of them and I thought the inflammation was not that severe), now all of this seems to me like a really heavy physical detoxing (I did not meet this kind of heavy detoxing before) which in turn triggered inflammation, so you can imagine the rest of the story.

I do not think it is fear based,but to be 100% sure that it is not resistance I would need to stop OF and see for myself if the condition improves, but I will not experiment in that way, I would rather experiment with the listening schedule of OF and do two weeks without off days.

And I would definitely say that I am executing  


One more thing that I wanted to mention is that, It seems to me that previous programming is still "recorded" somewhere in the subconscious but was not executing , and it seems that OF unblocked some of previous programming, I noticed it last week, but can not remember exactly what, I was and still am amazed how well OF works.




so... @Shannon your thoughts on this, and please, your answer to my original question.