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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Zubrowka - 06-15-2020

Shannon, related to my other post about dissociation from the body and fear - I did some energy healing on myself on my root Chakra which made me feel more grounded. I came to think about the psoas muscle, and how its condition affect our mental state as it being our "fight or flight muscle". If FRM could access the tension in this part of our body, ie. Around our tailbone - I think it could achieve even higher degrees of fear release.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - UniversalMan - 06-16-2020

Shannon, I have a friend who is willing to try with CHA, but, someone is constantly around him, what do you think is it ok, to listen it around others.... his wife and two underaged children...


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - DarthXedonias - 06-16-2020

@Shannon Hey Shannon just wanted to know if there is an ETA on OF 5.75? Should we look at it coming out today or maybe tomorrow? Also besides the fear module being updated were there any other additions added or any new optimizations?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - tolgaocal80 - 06-16-2020

Hi Shannon,
I want to ask some question, please Could you help me on these if you have free time to answer these?
For a human being is there any "permament", "effective", "REAL", change?

I search some "self-made millonares" but I MOSTLY see a good culture about money, relationships etc. I want to believe that, a human can be a self-made millionare and a successful man but some of them have a rich family (not talking about inhereted money ), even if they don't give their children any money they relatively becaming rich and famous.

Most people so called "self made millionares" are telling about how they worked ass of, they did this and that etc. but why I am seeing that they already had a rich background? My father are working since he is 10, but he is still broke and waiting for retirement.

You sometimes give us an example of The Rock, recently I saw her father when he wrestling in wwe, and little Dwayne was watching him. Here, should I listen his advices for becoming wealthy? Because his abilites -to able to do things are coming from his family, is he self-made or made by paradigms and what he see? here I do not criticize The Rock. it is funny for me doing it.


about OF 5.75, it sounds very interesting, DRS on, new approachs etc. Would you suggest it after SE, and before AM ?

and this last one, You are developing generations for your subs, As new developments come in, does the script become harder to understand for a foreign person(not native english speaker)? Maybe new scripts that the subconscious will knowingly misunderstand?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Zubrowka - 06-16-2020

Is there any place in the forum where it's allowed to discuss anything regarding politics and subjects related to that or is it totally out of question?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - tolgaocal80 - 06-16-2020

3.Politics
Users may not make mention of or discuss politics in the main forum. Do not mention or discuss politics, political issues or political figures, even in the off topic section.

seems like it is not allowed


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Zubrowka - 06-16-2020

(06-16-2020, 07:13 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: I search some "self-made millonares" but I MOSTLY see a good culture about money, relationships etc. I want to believe that, a human can be a self-made millionare and a successful man but some of them have a rich family (not talking about inhereted money ), even if they don't give their children any money they relatively becaming rich and famous.

Most people so called "self made millionares"  are telling about how they worked ass of, they did this and that etc. but why I am seeing that they already had a rich background? My father are working since he is  10, but he is still broke and waiting for retirement. 

I think that people coming from a wealthy background often have a easier time to acquire wealth because it's already in their belief that it's possible - they have seen their parents earn good money, and also they have the benefit of using their network, not being as afraid of failing because they have a back-up, etc.

But there are plenty of people who have made their fortune without coming from especially wealthy backgrounds. Take warren buffet, coming from a pretty modest background and today is one of the wealthiest people on earth. 

I believe working hard isn't enough to become wealthy, you need to have some understanding and ability to reflect on what you do and how you do it - to be able to take a step back and see the bigger picture, to be willing to learn from others, have a vision, be able to take some calculated risk. You don't have to be the smartest guy, but you need to have some "street smartness" and practical thinking in place and THEN you can put your ass to it and work hard. A big think in earning money I believe is to understand what people want and find away to give them that. A except from the book "how to think and grow rich by napoleon hill"

Quote:Finally, Mr. Ford became tired of this line of questioning, and in reply to a particularly offensive question, he leaned over, pointed his finger at the lawyer who had asked the question, and said, "If I should really WANT to answer the foolish question you have just asked, or any of the other questions you have been asking me, let me remind you that I have a row of electric push-buttons on my desk, and by pushing the right button, I can summon to my aid men who can answer ANY question I desire to ask concerning the business to which I am devoting most of my efforts. Now, will you kindly tell me, WHY I should clutter up my mind with general knowledge, for the purpose of being able to answer questions, when I have men around me who can supply any knowledge I require?"

There certainly was good logic to that reply. That answer floored the lawyer. Every person in the courtroom realized it was the answer, not of an ignorant man, but of a man of EDUCATION. Any man is educated who knows where to get knowledge when he needs it, and how to organize that knowledge into definite plans of action. Through the assistance of his "Master Mind" group, Henry Ford had at his command all the specialized knowledge he needed to enable him to become one of the wealthiest men in America. It was not essential that he have this knowledge in his own mind. Surely no person who has sufficient inclination and intelligence to read a book of this nature can possibly miss the significance of this illustration.


i think that Shannon has most of this covered in UMS. 


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - tolgaocal80 - 06-16-2020

(06-16-2020, 07:29 AM)Zubrowka Wrote:
(06-16-2020, 07:13 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: I search some "self-made millonares" but I MOSTLY see a good culture about money, relationships etc. I want to believe that, a human can be a self-made millionare and a successful man but some of them have a rich family (not talking about inhereted money ), even if they don't give their children any money they relatively becaming rich and famous.

Most people so called "self made millionares"  are telling about how they worked ass of, they did this and that etc. but why I am seeing that they already had a rich background? My father are working since he is  10, but he is still broke and waiting for retirement. 

I think that people coming from a wealthy background often have a easier time to acquire wealth because it's already in their belief that it's possible - they have seen their parents earn good money, and also they have the benefit of using their network, not being as afraid of failing because they have a back-up, etc.

But there are plenty of people who have made their fortune without coming from especially wealthy backgrounds. Take warren buffet, coming from a pretty modest background and today is one of the wealthiest people on earth. 

I believe working hard isn't enough to become wealthy, you need to have some understanding and ability to reflect on what you do and how you do it - to be able to take a step back and see the bigger picture, to be willing to learn from others, have a vision, be able to take some calculated risk. You don't have to be the smartest guy, but you need to have some "street smartness" and practical thinking in place and THEN you can put your ass to it and work hard. A big think in earning money I believe is to understand what people want and find away to give them that. A except from the book "how to think and grow rich by napoleon hill"

Quote:Finally, Mr. Ford became tired of this line of questioning, and in reply to a particularly offensive question, he leaned over, pointed his finger at the lawyer who had asked the question, and said, "If I should really WANT to answer the foolish question you have just asked, or any of the other questions you have been asking me, let me remind you that I have a row of electric push-buttons on my desk, and by pushing the right button, I can summon to my aid men who can answer ANY question I desire to ask concerning the business to which I am devoting most of my efforts. Now, will you kindly tell me, WHY I should clutter up my mind with general knowledge, for the purpose of being able to answer questions, when I have men around me who can supply any knowledge I require?"

There certainly was good logic to that reply. That answer floored the lawyer. Every person in the courtroom realized it was the answer, not of an ignorant man, but of a man of EDUCATION. Any man is educated who knows where to get knowledge when he needs it, and how to organize that knowledge into definite plans of action. Through the assistance of his "Master Mind" group, Henry Ford had at his command all the specialized knowledge he needed to enable him to become one of the wealthiest men in America. It was not essential that he have this knowledge in his own mind. Surely no person who has sufficient inclination and intelligence to read a book of this nature can possibly miss the significance of this illustration.


i think that Shannon has most of this covered in UMS. 

Good post thanks, I read that book too. Actually this is point I want point, we learn consciously what to do to make money but when the time came to work, always I find myself on other subjects. I am doing only %30-40 what I planned to do.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - K-Train - 06-16-2020

Quick question Shannon. I've been using the DRS for a while now especially at my new job. For full disclosure, I've also been using it alongside MHS (5.5G) for the past several months. I feel like the shield isn't working. I'm around some negative people and I can still feel my mood/energy/whatever dipping around these people. Suggestions?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 06-16-2020

(06-15-2020, 03:10 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon,  I am curious, I had a question come to mind,earlier today.... I'll see if I can form it properly here... since UMS2 is going to be a 6 stage set....will each stage be jammed packed with all kindsa goodies,new stuff,additions,ect or will be
'less is more' or what? Curious. I'm hoping we get 'more bang for our buck' pun intended and meant. thank you. Keith.

UMS2 will be:

1. An upgrade to the latest skeleton script.
2. An optimization and/or upgrade of the particular titles and modules in each title, as possible.
3. Whatever additions make sense to add which will increase the value and effectiveness of the program as much as possible.

Even if all I did was to upgrade the FRM in it and shift it to 6 stages, you'd be getting a vastly more effective product.  The product itself is already very good; it's just hampered by an inability to overcome the fears holding some people back right now.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 06-16-2020

(06-15-2020, 05:25 PM)Zubrowka Wrote: Shannon, related to my other post about dissociation from the body and fear - I did some energy healing on myself on my root Chakra which made me feel more grounded. I came to think about the psoas muscle, and how its condition affect our mental state as it being our "fight or flight muscle". If FRM could access the tension in this part of our body, ie. Around our tailbone - I think it could achieve even higher degrees of fear release.

You're thinking too high level.  What FRM does is much lower level than that.  Accessing the tension doesn't do anything because the tension is a symptom, not the cause.  I'm working at the level of the root causes of the fears that trigger the tension.  You don't have to trim the branches of a tree if you pull it up by the roots.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 06-16-2020

(06-16-2020, 04:00 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: Shannon, I have a friend who is willing to try with CHA, but, someone is constantly around him, what do you think is it ok, to listen it around others.... his wife and two underaged children...

CHA is not going to harm anyone else who is exposed.  It is common for cancer patience to be surrounded by others, whether it be family, medical staff, visitors, etc.  He is fine to run it around them.  If he wants to be cautious, have him run it when his children are not around, or use headphones while they're around.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 06-16-2020

(06-16-2020, 06:08 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: @Shannon Hey Shannon just wanted to know if there is an ETA on OF 5.75? Should we look at it coming out today or maybe tomorrow? Also besides the fear module being updated were there any other additions added or any new optimizations?

I am in the process of building OF 5.75G right now.  I have finished recording the vocals and I am in process for the building of the programs from those vocals.  I expect to be finished building it today, and publishing it either tomorrow or the next day.

OF does not just use the fear removal module.  I had to create a Core Script set for it and a Key Script set for it, both of which support, refer to, guide and enhance the FRM while themselves acting to get you past fear.  I also had to create a set of 5 different safeties within the script to prevent this program from being used by the wrong people (18+ only) or resulting in careless behavior that has negative results.

There is an addition to the skeleton script that is secret, but will probably become universal.

And finally, the build methodology has changed significantly, which I consider a significant step towards 6G.  This new build methodology takes longer to build, but allows me much greater flexibility with helping the program achieve it's intended goals.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 06-16-2020

(06-16-2020, 07:13 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: Hi Shannon,
I want to ask some question, please  Could you help me on these if you have free time to answer these?
For a human being is there any "permament", "effective", "REAL", change?

Of course there is.  You can see this in people's physical bodies, their minds, their emotions, and so forth.  For example, I used to be the good little doormat my mother unconsciously raised me to be for women.  Now I am not a doormat at all.  This change resulted from AM and it's predecessor program.  It's a permanent change, and I haven't had to run AM since v6 came out for it to stay in place.

Quote:I search some "self-made millonares" but I MOSTLY see a good culture about money, relationships etc. I want to believe that, a human can be a self-made millionare and a successful man but some of them have a rich family (not talking about inhereted money ), even if they don't give their children any money they relatively becaming rich and famous.

Most people so called "self made millionares"  are telling about how they worked ass of, they did this and that etc. but why I am seeing that they already had a rich background? My father are working since he is  10, but he is still broke and waiting for retirement.

You sometimes give us an example of The Rock, recently I saw her father when he wrestling in wwe, and little Dwayne was watching him. Here, should I listen his advices for becoming wealthy? Because his abilites -to able to do things are coming from his family, is he self-made or made by paradigms and what he see? here I do not criticize The Rock. it is funny for me doing it.

Different people achieve self made millionaire in different ways.  Some people come to wealth through inheritance, through gambling, through happenstance, through knowing the right person and having the right relationship with them, and some do it through hard work.  Some do it through creating value in ways that doesn't require hard work, it just requires specialized knowledge and timing.  Some do it through pragmatism and common sense - saving, investing, etc.  There are as many ways to become a self made millionaire as there are self made millionaires.

I have met a number of self made millionaires who don't fit what you are saying.  You can find them who started off with nothing and worked their way to the top.  Some of them came from privelige, but didn't have money of their own until they found their niche way to make it for themselves.  Most of the ones I have met started off from poor or middle class families and made their fortune through common sense, developing and using their skills, and/or leveraging specialized knowledge.  

If all you see are examples of people you think have extraordinary abilities that you don't have, or coming from wealth already, then you have some part of you that is trying to limit you because it believes that's how things "really are", and/or it's very afraid to become wealthy.  You will tend to find what you're looking for hard enough in life, and ignore what doesn't fit your belief system.  If you hold the belief, consciously or subconsciously, that people only become self made millionaires by having something you don't/can't have, then you're going to look for and find those examples that confirm your beliefs and the resulting biases.  It's an attempt to hold on to the comfortable "known" that you have, and prevent you from having to deal with the "scary unknown" of change.  You keep looking, and you'll find them who are self made who came from average or even poor families.  I know they exist because I've met some of them.

Quote:about OF 5.75, it sounds very interesting, DRS on, new approachs etc. Would you suggest it after SE, and before AM ?

If and when you use it is as always your choice.  I don't know about before or after SE, but I would definitely use it before AM, unless you're using AM7.

Quote:and this last one, You are developing generations for your subs, As new developments come in, does the script become harder to understand for a foreign person(not native english speaker)? Maybe new scripts that the subconscious will knowingly misunderstand?

The complexity of the words is not changing.  The complexity of the grammar does increase.  This is not an issue for the subconscious, even if you're not a native speaker of English.