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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ichigo - 03-09-2025

Hey Shannon,

For X4A-1600, I assume the listening instructions were based on the optimal amount of exposure for the user to get to sex?

#1 Just out of interest, did you ever model the optimal amount of exposure time to get the strongest aura / most polarising results without pushing into overexposure so the subconscious is overloaded?

For me that was 8 loops of X4A-1500, gave me the most "blatant" and "fun" results. I'm aware it might not be the best to lead to actual sex but what if you're just after the most blatant responses i.e. strongest arousal in the quickest time possible?

#2 If you're using the line of sight to arouse via video call or staring at a photograph, would the person be able to tell you were the source of their arousal, or they would just get aroused but not know what caused it?

Appreciate your responses, thank you


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 03-09-2025

(03-09-2025, 10:58 AM)ichigo Wrote: Hey Shannon,



For X4A-1600, I assume the listening instructions were based on the optimal amount of exposure for the user to get to sex?



#1 Just out of interest, did you ever model the optimal amount of exposure time to get the strongest aura / most polarising results without pushing into overexposure so the subconscious is overloaded?



For me that was 8 loops of X4A-1500, gave me the most "blatant" and "fun" results. I'm aware it might not be the best to lead to actual sex but what if you're just after the most blatant responses i.e. strongest arousal in the quickest time possible?

Why would you be running a $650 subliminal aphrodisiac just to get blatant responses that don't lead to sex?  Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

I don't calculate the usage patterns to make people go flying past sex into making women respond obviously enough to entertain men, while failing to get to sex in the process.  The goal of an aphrodisiac is sex, and the instructions are designed to get you as close to sex as possible.

As to overloading the subconscious, are you experiencing any level of exhaustion from 45 minutes per day on?  I'm going to presume not.  You know why that is?  It's because we don't want you to experience exhaustion.  That is part of why I calculate the sweet spot for where people will be happiest with the program's results.  Much more than 45 minutes a day and you'll be in exhausted/overload territory, unless you're some sort of really bizarre outlier.

Quote:#2 If you're using the line of sight to arouse via video call or staring at a photograph, would the person be able to tell you were the source of their arousal, or they would just get aroused but not know what caused it?

Appreciate your responses, thank you


They will become aroused and be noticing you at the same time.  It's human nature to notice conditions around oneself in order to try to understand "why" something happened.  So it would be natural for them to suspect, and later conclude, that they are becoming aroused in response to you.

If you're inexperienced with women, and especially if you're a virgin, and this is true when you're in your mid twenties or later, then there are going to be things subconsciously for you to deal with and work through to get to sex with women.  X4A-1600 can work you through those over time, but it will take time.  You may not be seeing the results you want until that process has sufficiently taken place.  By the sounds of it, though, you actually don't want sex, you want to see women react with sexual arousal.  If that's the case and you simultaneously don't want actual sex, then you're likely using this program for what amount to narcissistic reasons, which is definitely not how it was designed or intended to be used.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ichigo - 03-09-2025

(03-09-2025, 12:30 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(03-09-2025, 10:58 AM)ichigo Wrote: Hey Shannon,



For X4A-1600, I assume the listening instructions were based on the optimal amount of exposure for the user to get to sex?



#1 Just out of interest, did you ever model the optimal amount of exposure time to get the strongest aura / most polarising results without pushing into overexposure so the subconscious is overloaded?



For me that was 8 loops of X4A-1500, gave me the most "blatant" and "fun" results. I'm aware it might not be the best to lead to actual sex but what if you're just after the most blatant responses i.e. strongest arousal in the quickest time possible?

Why would you be running a $650 subliminal aphrodisiac just to get blatant responses that don't lead to sex?  Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

I don't calculate the usage patterns to make people go flying past sex into making women respond obviously enough to entertain men, while failing to get to sex in the process.  The goal of an aphrodisiac is sex, and the instructions are designed to get you as close to sex as possible.

As to overloading the subconscious, are you experiencing any level of exhaustion from 45 minutes per day on?  I'm going to presume not.  You know why that is?  It's because we don't want you to experience exhaustion.  That is part of why I calculate the sweet spot for where people will be happiest with the program's results.  Much more than 45 minutes a day and you'll be in exhausted/overload territory, unless you're some sort of really bizarre outlier.

Quote:#2 If you're using the line of sight to arouse via video call or staring at a photograph, would the person be able to tell you were the source of their arousal, or they would just get aroused but not know what caused it?

Appreciate your responses, thank you


They will become aroused and be noticing you at the same time.  It's human nature to notice conditions around oneself in order to try to understand "why" something happened.  So it would be natural for them to suspect, and later conclude, that they are becoming aroused in response to you.

If you're inexperienced with women, and especially if you're a virgin, and this is true when you're in your mid twenties or later, then there are going to be things subconsciously for you to deal with and work through to get to sex with women.  X4A-1600 can work you through those over time, but it will take time.  You may not be seeing the results you want until that process has sufficiently taken place.  By the sounds of it, though, you actually don't want sex, you want to see women react with sexual arousal.  If that's the case and you simultaneously don't want actual sex, then you're likely using this program for what amount to narcissistic reasons, which is definitely not how it was designed or intended to be used.

Hi Shannon,

Apologies, I don't think I worded my question very well. I meant that previously, using higher loops of X4A would make my aura stronger and cause polarisation, which meant generally if a woman was responding she was more likely to be up for sex quickly than if they would be repelled by it. Kind of like wearing a high dose of androstenone with pheromones, helps to weed out those who are up for quick sex versus those who aren't. This did make it less likely to respond in sex with some women, but at least there was a blatant reaction so you knew they weren't interested. 

Your responses make sense though, thank you for them.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 03-09-2025

(03-09-2025, 12:47 PM)ichigo Wrote:
(03-09-2025, 12:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: Why would you be running a $650 subliminal aphrodisiac just to get blatant responses that don't lead to sex?  Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

I don't calculate the usage patterns to make people go flying past sex into making women respond obviously enough to entertain men, while failing to get to sex in the process.  The goal of an aphrodisiac is sex, and the instructions are designed to get you as close to sex as possible.

As to overloading the subconscious, are you experiencing any level of exhaustion from 45 minutes per day on?  I'm going to presume not.  You know why that is?  It's because we don't want you to experience exhaustion.  That is part of why I calculate the sweet spot for where people will be happiest with the program's results.  Much more than 45 minutes a day and you'll be in exhausted/overload territory, unless you're some sort of really bizarre outlier.



They will become aroused and be noticing you at the same time.  It's human nature to notice conditions around oneself in order to try to understand "why" something happened.  So it would be natural for them to suspect, and later conclude, that they are becoming aroused in response to you.

If you're inexperienced with women, and especially if you're a virgin, and this is true when you're in your mid twenties or later, then there are going to be things subconsciously for you to deal with and work through to get to sex with women.  X4A-1600 can work you through those over time, but it will take time.  You may not be seeing the results you want until that process has sufficiently taken place.  By the sounds of it, though, you actually don't want sex, you want to see women react with sexual arousal.  If that's the case and you simultaneously don't want actual sex, then you're likely using this program for what amount to narcissistic reasons, which is definitely not how it was designed or intended to be used.

Hi Shannon,

Apologies, I don't think I worded my question very well. I meant that previously, using higher loops of X4A would make my aura stronger and cause polarisation, which meant generally if a woman was responding she was more likely to be up for sex quickly than if they would be repelled by it. Kind of like wearing a high dose of androstenone with pheromones, helps to weed out those who are up for quick sex versus those who aren't. This did make it less likely to respond in sex with some women, but at least there was a blatant reaction so you knew they weren't interested. 

Your responses make sense though, thank you for them.

Okay, so that I better understand your situation, let me ask some questions.  It sounds like you are not a virgin.  Is that right?  And you're using it according to the "inexperienced/virgin" instructions?  Is that because you're inexperienced or because you just like the fast blatant responses?

Your comparison to androstenone explains a lot.  You are apparently going for fast, easy sex, which androstenone can induce, and trying to make X4A do the same thing.  X4A isn't designed to do that.  It's designed specifically to go at her speed, so she's comfortable with responding to her sexual arousal.  That's a full 180 degrees from how you're apparently using it.

You may not realize it, but using X4A that way is going to cause problems.  You may get to sex fast, but you're going to leave emotional damage in some of the women you have sex with as a result.  You're also likely damaging yourself emotionally by indulging in fast sex without connecting to the woman.  And some of the women who respond may be involved, and inducing them to act that way, especially if they wouldn't have otherwise, will cause emotional damage to whomever they're cheating on, if this is discovered.  That's why these programs aren't designed to be used that way.

Could I create something that would do that? Absolutely.  But my goal is not to turn you into a self destructive homewrecking womanizer here.

Naturally these things will not be the case for every woman.  Some are single, and some are already so damaged from the brainwashing they got from social media and doing the dumb shit they see done there that it's like adding a drop of water to an ocean.  

X4A is designed to be used to get her interested enough to have sex with you, without causing anyone damage. 

Tell me more about the effects it has had on your natural production of pheromones.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - ichigo - 03-09-2025

(03-09-2025, 12:56 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(03-09-2025, 12:47 PM)ichigo Wrote: Hi Shannon,

Apologies, I don't think I worded my question very well. I meant that previously, using higher loops of X4A would make my aura stronger and cause polarisation, which meant generally if a woman was responding she was more likely to be up for sex quickly than if they would be repelled by it. Kind of like wearing a high dose of androstenone with pheromones, helps to weed out those who are up for quick sex versus those who aren't. This did make it less likely to respond in sex with some women, but at least there was a blatant reaction so you knew they weren't interested. 

Your responses make sense though, thank you for them.

Okay, so that I better understand your situation, let me ask some questions.  It sounds like you are not a virgin.  Is that right?  And you're using it according to the "inexperienced/virgin" instructions?  Is that because you're inexperienced or because you just like the fast blatant responses?

Your comparison to androstenone explains a lot.  You are apparently going for fast, easy sex, which androstenone can induce, and trying to make X4A do the same thing.  X4A isn't designed to do that.  It's designed specifically to go at her speed, so she's comfortable with responding to her sexual arousal.  That's a full 180 degrees from how you're apparently using it.

You may not realize it, but using X4A that way is going to cause problems.  You may get to sex fast, but you're going to leave emotional damage in some of the women you have sex with as a result.  You're also likely damaging yourself emotionally by indulging in fast sex without connecting to the woman.  And some of the women who respond may be involved, and inducing them to act that way, especially if they wouldn't have otherwise, will cause emotional damage to whomever they're cheating on, if this is discovered.  That's why these programs aren't designed to be used that way.

Could I create something that would do that? Absolutely.  But my goal is not to turn you into a self destructive homewrecking womanizer here.

Naturally these things will not be the case for every woman.  Some are single, and some are already so damaged from the brainwashing they got from social media and doing the dumb shit they see done there that it's like adding a drop of water to an ocean.  

X4A is designed to be used to get her interested enough to have sex with you, without causing anyone damage. 

Tell me more about the effects it has had on your natural production of pheromones.

I started a journal here, feel free to ask me any questions you think might help you with data. Smile


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - 4Kingdoms - 03-09-2025

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Volume-3?pid=267160#pid267160
Shannon Wrote:A full run-through for X4A-1600 is 2 (two) months of usage like this.

You can use it multiple run-throughs in a row, but please use it in whole run-throughs of 2 months each.



RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - GreekGod22 - 03-10-2025

Can OSC be run for more than 2 months?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Have at ye - 03-10-2025

(03-10-2025, 03:16 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: Can OSC be run for more than 2 months?

Of course, but it's best done 2 months at a time, so if you want to do more than 2 months, it'd be best to (perhaps take a break) and then do another full 2 months, etc. So that you get a full run-through every time.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - josh84 - 03-10-2025

Hi Shannon, i havent been using the products for a while after we didnt manage to have much luck in the past, but im starting osc for now with hearing aids in and through phone speaker, its playing by the speakers not direct into my ears with hearing aids.

I do want to try the x4a-1600, but i am wondering would it still work when i have a cochlear implant and those devices in. I will end up needing a few months to adjust to sounds again but since subliminal it shouldnt matter about what i can physically hear since can use ultrasonic too. But since its something thats implanted under the skin will that make the subliminal any less effective or it should still work?

Thanks
Josh.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Catman - 03-10-2025

(03-10-2025, 08:40 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, i havent been using the products for a while after we didnt manage to have much luck in the past, but im starting osc for now with hearing aids in and through phone speaker, its playing by the speakers not direct into my ears with hearing aids.

I do want to try the x4a-1600, but i am wondering would it still work when i have a cochlear implant and those devices in. I will end up needing a few months to adjust to sounds again but since subliminal it shouldnt matter about what i can physically hear since can use ultrasonic too. But since its something thats implanted under the skin will that make the subliminal any less effective or it should still work?

Thanks
Josh.

Welcome, @josh84!

I tagged you in a post to suggest OSC a few days ago, I always felt bad about your hearing issues in regards to the subs. 

I noticed you weren't active here for a long time, but figured it was worth a shot since 6G is here now and OSC is free.

I wish you great success on it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - josh84 - 03-10-2025

Thanks catman, will give it a run through see how i go, if i get some results will try the x4a product.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Shannon - 03-10-2025

(03-10-2025, 08:40 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, i havent been using the products for a while after we didnt manage to have much luck in the past, but im starting osc for now with hearing aids in and through phone speaker, its playing by the speakers not direct into my ears with hearing aids.

I do want to try the x4a-1600, but i am wondering would it still work when i have a cochlear implant and those devices in. I will end up needing a few months to adjust to sounds again but since subliminal it shouldnt matter about what i can physically hear since can use ultrasonic too. But since its something thats implanted under the skin will that make the subliminal any less effective or it should still work?

Thanks
Josh.

Hi, Josh, welcome back.

Audiology to that degree is outside my areas of education, so I really don't know the answer to your question.  The best we can do is have you try OSC and see what happens.  You'll want to ask your audiologist these questions.  The ultrasonics are sounding in a range between 15 kHz and 20 kHz, centered on 17.5 kHz.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - papagani24 - 03-10-2025

Yes, the on days of the first cycle in X4A-1600 are over, now I am moving to the off days.

I bought the X4A-1000 and 1500 (I hope the names are correct) as soon as they came out, but none of them impressed me this much. On my 6th day I hooked up with a girl I met randomly. The biggest difference of this program compared to other versions, at least for me, is that I CAN NOT STOP the program. I don't know exactly what it is doing to me, but it is doing everything to achieve its goal. Even if that includes going out of character (out of my usual character, that is). For those who still don't get results, speaking from my own experience, keep listening and follow the instructions. I say it again, because this is what impressed me the most, even though I don't know exactly what this program does to get over ME, but I absolutely CAN NOT STOP IT.

Also, this sentence in the program description is really true for me:
“6G is powerful enough that if you have fear of sex, women or anything that would prevent you from achieving sex, even without focusing on fear removal, it will try to get you to the goal of sex. This may result in some rather uncomfortable internal experiences along the way. ”

I will try the X4A-1600 until the end of the month, and will report further experiences as I have them.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8 - Benjamin - 03-10-2025

(03-10-2025, 01:56 PM)papagani24 Wrote: Yes, the on days of the first cycle in X4A-1600 are over, now I am moving to the off days.

I bought the X4A-1000 and 1500 (I hope the names are correct) as soon as they came out, but none of them impressed me this much. On my 6th day I hooked up with a girl I met randomly. The biggest difference of this program compared to other versions, at least for me, is that I CAN NOT STOP the program. I don't know exactly what it is doing to me, but it is doing everything to achieve its goal. Even if that includes going out of character (out of my usual character, that is). For those who still don't get results, speaking from my own experience, keep listening and follow the instructions. I say it again, because this is what impressed me the most, even though I don't know exactly what this program does to get over ME, but I absolutely CAN NOT STOP IT.

Also, this sentence in the program description is really true for me:
“6G is powerful enough that if you have fear of sex, women or anything that would prevent you from achieving sex, even without focusing on fear removal, it will try to get you to the goal of sex. This may result in some rather uncomfortable internal experiences along the way. ”

I will try the X4A-1600 until the end of the month, and will report further experiences as I have them.

Interesting, how do you compare these results to the past version? As in hooking up with girls?

Good result. Would be interesting to read a journal if you made one. So this version is allowing you to overcome the issues limiting you where the past ones didn't?