(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

(02-12-2017, 04:14 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: Thanks Shannon, great update and I start to get what you meant. Gotta think about it to be honest. Gotta think a lot.

(02-12-2017, 06:24 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

(02-12-2017, 04:14 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: Thanks Shannon, great update and I start to get what you meant. Gotta think about it to be honest. Gotta think a lot.

Shannon, I think everyone testing DMSI has benefited from this explanation!!

Mystic Pymp, I'm glad this post from Shannon brought you some insight. Shannon's explanation gave me some insight as to what is going on too!!

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

(02-13-2017, 07:52 AM)Blink Wrote:

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

Thanks for this post Shannon. It clears a lot of misunderstanding.

I'm a stonewaller most of the time as well, or just way too slow accepting the script. I realize, a lot of the time, I'm stubborn consciously when I'm told to do something, but once I'm done feeling butthurt about it, I'll execute it willingly.

Anything you recommend doing in order to take responsibility for our subconscious choices? I'm working on it consciously and I think I'm getting pretty good at it, but how to do it for our subconscious choices as well? Is it a matter of time, or could we be taking conscious action to help the process?

I see you've already made improvements with the modules that address this since your post, but I'm willing to do whatever it takes to work on it consciously as well, if possible.

Thanks again!

(02-13-2017, 03:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: Before I say anything else, I will preface this by saying that I have this component in my personality also.

It's a matter of the level of maturity of that part of you that is being resistant and stubborn. In my case, it has cost me a lot of friends and business opportunities, and reflecting on those losses and the ridiculous nature of them was motivation for me to seek change. I did that by first training myself to consciously be aware of and then intercepting the conscious responses that led to those outcomes. It wasn't fun, but I then forced myself to consider the consequences and the results and understand that "having it my way" and "being right" were sorry excuses for a "win" compared to what I was trying to achieve.

I then forced myself to outgrow those responses and trained myself to choose the outcome that made the most sense and made me the happiest. "Ha ha, I trashed my long term friendship because I was right, **** you!" isn't it.

Some of it is awareness. Some of it is understanding the outcome and consciously choosing the one you want. Some of it is forcing growth that leads to choosing the best outcome, instead of the one that gives you control, or makes you "right".

When the issue is dealing with a subconscious part of yourself, this becomes significantly more difficult because that part is harder to access, influence and change from the conscious perspective. There are still days when I sit at home gridlocked because Little Shannon doesn't wanna! and Big Shannon does. That little guy is STRONG! Of course he is - he is strong for the exact same reasons I am.

The thing that works for me in this case is to try to understand his response. Why are we resisting cleaning the house? It makes Big Me happy to have a clean house. Apparently, Little Me thinks of clutter as a reminder of dearly departed mom.

Understanding why you are resisting is a big step to making change. Once you understand why you are resisting, you can consciously work to remove the blocks. Asking yourself, "Why am I resisting this?" and then listening for the answer is a good way to do it. Sometimes the answer comes immediately, sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you'll find it in a dream, or a daydream, or a thought.

If it takes a while, try to think back on your memories and find what a possible reason could be. Then consciously work to fix the issue and reassure Little You that it's safe to cooperate, and that both of you will benefit.

But listen to your inner self and it's concerns. They're not a joke, they matter and they're valid, even if they may be based on a perspective that is misunderstanding something or based in fear.

Quote:Before I say anything else, I will preface this by saying that I have this component in my personality also.

It's a matter of the level of maturity of that part of you that is being resistant and stubborn. In my case, it has cost me a lot of friends and business opportunities, and reflecting on those losses and the ridiculous nature of them was motivation for me to seek change. I did that by first training myself to consciously be aware of and then intercepting the conscious responses that led to those outcomes. It wasn't fun, but I then forced myself to consider the consequences and the results and understand that "having it my way" and "being right" were sorry excuses for a "win" compared to what I was trying to achieve.

I then forced myself to outgrow those responses and trained myself to choose the outcome that made the most sense and made me the happiest. "Ha ha, I trashed my long term friendship because I was right, **** you!" isn't it.

Some of it is awareness. Some of it is understanding the outcome and consciously choosing the one you want. Some of it is forcing growth that leads to choosing the best outcome, instead of the one that gives you control, or makes you "right".

When the issue is dealing with a subconscious part of yourself, this becomes significantly more difficult because that part is harder to access, influence and change from the conscious perspective. There are still days when I sit at home gridlocked because Little Shannon doesn't wanna! and Big Shannon does. That little guy is STRONG! Of course he is - he is strong for the exact same reasons I am.

The thing that works for me in this case is to try to understand his response. Why are we resisting cleaning the house? It makes Big Me happy to have a clean house. Apparently, Little Me thinks of clutter as a reminder of dearly departed mom.

Understanding why you are resisting is a big step to making change. Once you understand why you are resisting, you can consciously work to remove the blocks. Asking yourself, "Why am I resisting this?" and then listening for the answer is a good way to do it. Sometimes the answer comes immediately, sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you'll find it in a dream, or a daydream, or a thought.

If it takes a while, try to think back on your memories and find what a possible reason could be. Then consciously work to fix the issue and reassure Little You that it's safe to cooperate, and that both of you will benefit.

But listen to your inner self and it's concerns. They're not a joke, they matter and they're valid, even if they may be based on a perspective that is misunderstanding something or based in fear.