(12-06-2016, 12:49 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: What's wrong with euphoria exactly? A little bit of fun shouldn't be a problem I guess.

I like the asteroid apple comparison

Do be honest I wonder if such euphoria isn't addictive. I don't think Shannon would do something like this to us because he would do so in a sneaky way rather than obvious one, but one might want to keep listening to the sub just for kicks. And from my experience some of those kicks are quite powerful

(12-06-2016, 12:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 12:17 PM)D77 Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 11:39 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 11:08 AM)JakeKennedy Wrote: RE: Shannon's Journal, Volume 2
I have determined through my models that I am going to be implementing, most likely starting with V 3.1 of DMSI (or whatever program I build before that) scripting that will cause you to automatically adjust the amount of time you listen to a program to be whatever is optimal for you. Looking forward to this.

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Love this! I am going to stick to the recommended 3 back to back daily loop of DMSI 3.0.1A but I have a strong suspicion my optimal may be more than 3 daily plays of the track.

More than once, I have found myself wanting to listen to it more than 3 loops a day also. I suspect this has to do with the euphoria. The goal is to show me what is happening, not encourage people to use it more. I will eventually be removing the euphoria effect.

Bro,

According to my research, the euphoria effect that we have here is essentially important with regards to manifestation. Monks I believe from China/Tibet that is practicing manifestation meditation was very at awe and surprise that one scientist from the west just use an Isochronic tones to achieve this state in the brain, they commented they need to meditate for so many years in order to achieve this state in the brain easily, I believe yours is much more potent. The monks is very impress by this. The great masters of the past have access to this while bending reality along the way.

Please don't do this, for the sake of me and others. I don't have that info that I can link to you but the info has stuck to me so much and many years that I need to tell you this. That is why before I stumbled upon your product I needed to meditate for at least 30 mins or more just to achieve this state, but did I really achieve the state? then do my manifestation meditation and yet yours is so much more than I can do. There are people who won't listen, just think of me and others that listen.. consider us.

You're comparing apples to asteroids. My manifestation methods do not require or use any euphoria to work, or any specific state shifting. They operate entirely at the subconscious level, and entirely automatically.

The euphoria effect is being triggered as a scripted response to performing a specific action that I otherwise cannot see, which has very little to do with manifestation. It will be fine without this.

If you don;t want to use my programs without it, then you are only reinforcing the reasons I will be removing it in the first place: it is a distraction from the real reasons you should be using the program.

Why are you so grumpy all of a sudden? So closed? Please forget everything that I said. We are just starting an awesome day. I don't want to add to whatever you are having. And also I never said it won't work, I said it essential, a part of their practices. Second I praise your product. Read my words again. I just stated my opinion, I never force you or anything ..that is the reason I said to please consider. It is all up to you. And we your customer will respect that.

Shannon dose make a good point. Too much of a good thing can be bad

I hope that Shannon will keep the euphria effect in the other versions of Dmsi
there is nothing wrong with it. it does encourage one to keep listening but we do abide but the instructions and we run it only three loops. those who do not follow instructions, will not do so, with or without Euphoria.
and for me this euphoric effect is really very relaxing. it can not hurt in my humble opinion!

(12-06-2016, 12:45 PM)dweller94 Wrote: @Shannon

Had a few questions/thoughts during my DMSI loop, would like to ask:

I get the role of healing/clearing is to remove the blockade of crap that is preventing us from achieving the goals of DMSI.

In regards to the subs you'll continue to improve and develop, what if there's a way of getting to the destination without:

a) Healing/Clearing the obstacles whatever they may be
b) Going straight on head first through it all

So you're getting from A >> C without going through B, B = representing the blocks.

Simply disassociating / disconnecting rendering whatever crap that is in the way useless, so it no longer is in the way, an off switch, removing B from the equation without confrontation?

I am aware this may not be suited for the long run as the garbage may still be present but as long as it's not in the way ?

It crossed my mind because I was thinking about how I felt on the subs right from v1 to 2.5, 2.5 almost felt like an off switch like there was no garbage and crap there, so is the disconnecting already in use in that sub or is it just trying to achieve while it's present.

I know what I am saying sounds the same but implementing some kind of statement that STOPS the obstacles from preventing success.

V3 is going well so far, but I say this because, let's be honest, eventually, we want to achieve the goals as quickly as possibly but at the same time we are unaware of how long the clearing and healing will require?

I remember you mentioned in the past that there are layers to the subconscious mind, have you researched or attempted to direct a statement specifically at the 'Soul' to see what that results in?

Would targeting the soul impact the all the layers of the subconscious we need superuser access?

Even if Shannon could just "go around" the Self sabotage and the negative beliefs with the sub, what happens when the user comes off of it?

No healing has occurred so they will resume the same self sabotaging behavior and thinking the same negative thoughts. How long will the women that were all over him stick around when his behavior takes a huge turn for the worse? That's why the healing is in there.

But your idea of directly affecting the soul sounds interesting.

(12-06-2016, 12:59 PM)Mystic Pymp Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 12:49 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: What's wrong with euphoria exactly? A little bit of fun shouldn't be a problem I guess.

I like the asteroid apple comparison

Do be honest I wonder if such euphoria isn't addictive. I don't think Shannon would do something like this to us because he would do so in a sneaky way rather than obvious one, but one might want to keep listening to the sub just for kicks. And from my experience some of those kicks are quite powerful

I dont' think it is addictive. i found myself taking modafinil in an addictive way (sorry shannon, i don't know the right word to use here), as i would take about 200mg every day. but since the day i started 3.0.1, i havne't felt the need to take the modafinil AT ALL, even though i know for fact it would have come in handy. this leads me to think the clearing in 3.0.1a has something in it to prevent re-dosing of ANY type of thing that makes us feel "good" in a "feeling seeking" type of way. thereby also preventing seeking the euphoria of the program. for someone who has an insanely addictive personality, i don't find myself wanting to re-dose on the sub any more or any less than the prescribed amount of 3 loops.

lol. eternity's penguin is so funny.

Oh have just noticed that other people are commenting on dreams, I spoke them about in my journal today. I also have been getting absolutely vivid, life-like dreams. All of them have involved women chasing me and sex. 4 nights in a row since running V3. I got a couple of them whilst on 2.5 but that was towards the end of that run. Definitely not complaining but a little bit sad after waking up. I feel like it's progress and working towards something big!

(12-06-2016, 12:45 PM)dweller94 Wrote: @Shannon

Had a few questions/thoughts during my DMSI loop, would like to ask:

I get the role of healing/clearing is to remove the blockade of crap that is preventing us from achieving the goals of DMSI.

In regards to the subs you'll continue to improve and develop, what if there's a way of getting to the destination without:

a) Healing/Clearing the obstacles whatever they may be
b) Going straight on head first through it all

So you're getting from A >> C without going through B, B = representing the blocks.

Simply disassociating / disconnecting rendering whatever crap that is in the way useless, so it no longer is in the way, an off switch, removing B from the equation without confrontation?

I am aware this may not be suited for the long run as the garbage may still be present but as long as it's not in the way ?

It crossed my mind because I was thinking about how I felt on the subs right from v1 to 2.5, 2.5 almost felt like an off switch like there was no garbage and crap there, so is the disconnecting already in use in that sub or is it just trying to achieve while it's present.

I know what I am saying sounds the same but implementing some kind of statement that STOPS the obstacles from preventing success.

V3 is going well so far, but I say this because, let's be honest, eventually, we want to achieve the goals as quickly as possibly but at the same time we are unaware of how long the clearing and healing will require?

I remember you mentioned in the past that there are layers to the subconscious mind, have you researched or attempted to direct a statement specifically at the 'Soul' to see what that results in?

Would targeting the soul impact the all the layers of the subconscious we need superuser access?

I have been trying to do that ever since day one. It works with some things, and not with others, Some of these things, there is just no way around that I currently know of.

(12-06-2016, 12:49 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: What's wrong with euphoria exactly? A little bit of fun shouldn't be a problem I guess.

I like the asteroid apple comparison

I'm not interested in having people run the sub because it produces euphoria. It's not intended to be a recreational thing. When it is, believe me, I will provide a sub designed specifically for that.

(12-06-2016, 12:59 PM)Mystic Pymp Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 12:49 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: What's wrong with euphoria exactly? A little bit of fun shouldn't be a problem I guess.

I like the asteroid apple comparison

Do be honest I wonder if such euphoria isn't addictive. I don't think Shannon would do something like this to us because he would do so in a sneaky way rather than obvious one, but one might want to keep listening to the sub just for kicks. And from my experience some of those kicks are quite powerful

I would do what in a sneaky way? Why would I do it in a sneaky way?

(12-06-2016, 01:02 PM)D77 Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 12:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 12:17 PM)D77 Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 11:39 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 11:08 AM)JakeKennedy Wrote: RE: Shannon's Journal, Volume 2
I have determined through my models that I am going to be implementing, most likely starting with V 3.1 of DMSI (or whatever program I build before that) scripting that will cause you to automatically adjust the amount of time you listen to a program to be whatever is optimal for you. Looking forward to this.

*****************

Love this! I am going to stick to the recommended 3 back to back daily loop of DMSI 3.0.1A but I have a strong suspicion my optimal may be more than 3 daily plays of the track.

More than once, I have found myself wanting to listen to it more than 3 loops a day also. I suspect this has to do with the euphoria. The goal is to show me what is happening, not encourage people to use it more. I will eventually be removing the euphoria effect.

Bro,

According to my research, the euphoria effect that we have here is essentially important with regards to manifestation. Monks I believe from China/Tibet that is practicing manifestation meditation was very at awe and surprise that one scientist from the west just use an Isochronic tones to achieve this state in the brain, they commented they need to meditate for so many years in order to achieve this state in the brain easily, I believe yours is much more potent. The monks is very impress by this. The great masters of the past have access to this while bending reality along the way.

Please don't do this, for the sake of me and others. I don't have that info that I can link to you but the info has stuck to me so much and many years that I need to tell you this. That is why before I stumbled upon your product I needed to meditate for at least 30 mins or more just to achieve this state, but did I really achieve the state? then do my manifestation meditation and yet yours is so much more than I can do. There are people who won't listen, just think of me and others that listen.. consider us.

You're comparing apples to asteroids. My manifestation methods do not require or use any euphoria to work, or any specific state shifting. They operate entirely at the subconscious level, and entirely automatically.

The euphoria effect is being triggered as a scripted response to performing a specific action that I otherwise cannot see, which has very little to do with manifestation. It will be fine without this.

If you don;t want to use my programs without it, then you are only reinforcing the reasons I will be removing it in the first place: it is a distraction from the real reasons you should be using the program.

Why are you so grumpy all of a sudden? So closed? Please forget everything that I said. We are just starting an awesome day. I don't want to add to whatever you are having. And also I never said it won't work, I said it essential, a part of their practices. Second I praise your product. Read my words again. I just stated my opinion, I never force you or anything ..that is the reason I said to please consider. It is all up to you. And we your customer will respect that.

I'm not being grumpy. Just making statements. Why are you taking everything I said as being an attack all of a sudden?

It is important to me that the euphoria effect not become something that can be or is misused. I don't want people "addicted to" using my programs. It seems that is becoming an issue of concern, so I am going to stop using the euphoria tag. It has served it's purpose anyway.

(12-06-2016, 01:28 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: this leads me to think the clearing in 3.0.1a has something in it to prevent re-dosing of ANY type of thing that makes us feel "good" in a "feeling seeking" type of way. thereby also preventing seeking the euphoria of the program. for someone who has an insanely addictive personality, i don't find myself wanting to re-dose on the sub any more or any less than the prescribed amount of 3 loops.

I haven't looked at porn since v3.0.1. The desire to look at it has gone away.

If I quit because of v3.0.1a that would be an amazing side effect.

(12-06-2016, 02:46 PM)Travis Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 01:28 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: this leads me to think the clearing in 3.0.1a has something in it to prevent re-dosing of ANY type of thing that makes us feel "good" in a "feeling seeking" type of way. thereby also preventing seeking the euphoria of the program. for someone who has an insanely addictive personality, i don't find myself wanting to re-dose on the sub any more or any less than the prescribed amount of 3 loops.

I haven't looked at porn since v3.0.1. The desire to look at it has gone away.

If I quit because of v3.0.1a that would be an amazing side effect.

Did you ever consider that maybe porn was getting in the way of you getting to real sex with a real woman? Whether directly so or as a side effect, if porn is preventing you from achieving the goals of DMSI "A" version, it will kill your interest in porn. Dead.