Shannon, does this mean for DSMI 2.3+ that the user needs to have no hang ups towards women and/or run E2 for so long ahead of time in order to maximize results?

I'm confused. So does this mean DMSI 2.2 is faulty or not - in the way such that it is minimising results? Or is it doing the right thing that it'll give us results in the long run?

If by removing healing/OGSF aspect from DMSI makes the aura so strong it overshadows the need to heal, then it's safe to say we are all in.

- My experiance with ASC that i was your average beta male, but i had Courage that overshadowed all fear and i almost got toghether with the hottest girl i've ever seen -

(07-27-2016, 03:40 AM)Kurohawk Wrote: If by removing healing/OGSF aspect from DMSI makes the aura so strong it overshadows the need to heal, then it's safe to say we are all in.

- My experiance with ASC that i was your average beta male, but i had Courage that overshadowed all fear and i almost got toghether with the hottest girl i've ever seen -

It depends on the person and how much fear they have, perhaps.

Okay, my situation is a little different, cause I wasn't on subs 4-5 years ago when I was in a club and I locked eyes with a girl multiple times. She said something to her friend. They came on the dance floor, while dancing, and her friend subtly dropped her in front of me and then she left me to do the rest. I couldn't. I just froze up. After 10 secs or so, her friend realised I wasn't gonna do anything, so she took the girl away. The whole night, we kept looking at each other and I still couldn't approach her. Yes, I was a nervous wreck back then. Had a golden opportunity and still didn't know how to seize the moment.

Lol I'm not that hopeless anymore, but I'm still learning how to physically escalate, as well as many other guys on this forum. If you don't know what to do in the right moment, you'll have so many misses like that. Perhaps the healing component is needed. We'll just have to wait and see how v2.2 goes for the next few weeks.

(07-27-2016, 12:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: Basically, this is what happens when you have two goals in one program, and they're not pointing in the same direction. It was worth a shot, but I'm pretty sure that this is why the program is not doing the stuff everyone wants.

I would say that sounds more short term though. I want long term results, not an aura that will disappear a month after I switch subs. The aura is a bonus. The long term inner confidence and sexy feeling is what I want.

The goals aren't discordant, just maybe slightly at odds in the short term. Longer term, they should combine into a serious level of sexual attractiveness.

(07-27-2016, 04:32 AM)swisston Wrote:

(07-27-2016, 12:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: Basically, this is what happens when you have two goals in one program, and they're not pointing in the same direction. It was worth a shot, but I'm pretty sure that this is why the program is not doing the stuff everyone wants.

I would say that sounds more short term though. I want long term results, not an aura that will disappear a month after I switch subs. The aura is a bonus. The long term inner confidence and sexy feeling is what I want.

The goals aren't discordant, just maybe slightly at odds in the short term. Longer term, they should combine into a serious level of sexual attractiveness.

I agree. I think some people are afraid that the way things are going now are the way they'll always go, but if healing occurs that allows for a true sexiness that will shine through for life, that'd be amazing.

I'm feeling the healing modules this morning. I woke up with anxiety after a series of dreams about being Pauly D (the famous DJ originally on Jersey Shore) and interacting with a plethora of hot women. Then my anxiety became weepiness while reading posts on the forum this morning. Now, within 15 minutes, both anxiety and weepiness gone. Weird!

(07-27-2016, 04:32 AM)swisston Wrote:

(07-27-2016, 12:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: Basically, this is what happens when you have two goals in one program, and they're not pointing in the same direction. It was worth a shot, but I'm pretty sure that this is why the program is not doing the stuff everyone wants.

I would say that sounds more short term though. I want long term results, not an aura that will disappear a month after I switch subs. The aura is a bonus. The long term inner confidence and sexy feeling is what I want.

The goals aren't discordant, just maybe slightly at odds in the short term. Longer term, they should combine into a serious level of sexual attractiveness.

The aura will disappear anyway, with or without healing modules. Even faster if you switch to other subs later on.

It's not the healing modules job to clear up whatever is stopping us from projecting the aura as it ideally supposed to. Their job is to clear whatever is stopping us from acknowledging and acting upon the attraction.

There are no short or long-term results in this, it's just a matter of if the aura is projecting as it is supposed to be. And if the aura isn't projecting well enough, what's the point of having healing modules anyway?

If dmsi is being affected by ogsf, it begs the question if it should be separate.

Shannon, i think, has addressed this further up by mentioning that he thinks the two programs should be separate

Now my question is one of practicality.

Shannon has stated that unless something major occurs, 2.2 is the final version. Subsequent versions (ie Version 3) is not covered under our initial purchase and v3 must be repurchased.

Is this still the case?
Will v3 be a second purchase to have a different version of dmsi (one that doesnt have an ogsf or whatever major change is made)?

(07-27-2016, 07:11 AM)Dilettante Wrote: If dmsi is being affected by ogsf, it begs the question if it should be separate.

Shannon, i think, has addressed this further up by mentioning that he thinks the two programs should be separate

Now my question is one of practicality.

Shannon has stated that unless something major occurs, 2.2 is the final version. Subsequent versions (ie Version 3) is not covered under our initial purchase and v3 must be repurchased.

Is this still the case?
Will v3 be a second purchase to have a different version of dmsi (one that doesnt have an ogsf or whatever major change is made)?

He stated last night that he's considering releasing v2.3, a version of DMSI with OGSF removed so we can see that the aura is capable of without OGSF affecting it. I'm guessing that the projection of the aura will occur regardless of whether the individual is resisting or not. What they ARE resisting, however, is the suggestions to meet the woman halfway. But that's just my speculation, I'm sure Shannon will elaborate as he grows closer to making a decision.

(07-11-2016, 03:18 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 03:05 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 02:33 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 02:32 PM)swisston Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 02:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: That is taken care of by the Optimus Engine, which basically says, "Hey, subconscious mind! Everything you know will make me sexier? Let's do that."

Does that require an initial understanding of what makes us sexy though? If I've never felt sexy or desirable before, does my subconscious actually know what to do? Can I educate myself somehow?

It already knows or has access to everything you need to know. Believe it.

hi Shannon,
i tried to search for SM 3.0 in the thread but the system found it too short!! of a term to search for.
i wanted to learn how this new DMSI relates to SM 3.0. i am in the fifth stage of AM 6 and starting the last stage 5 days later (the change is unbelievable, btw.).
i was thinking of purchasing the SM 3.0 set for afterwards, however this new program caught my attention, mostkly because of the new methods you are using in it. i was prepared to purchase the sm 3.0 so, without regards to the price, what should be the next step? is it possible to use DMSI 2.2 along with SM 3.0, maybe one or two loops a day (which the answer will probably be no, but i did not come across with a discussion of this in the 30+ pages i browsed)?
i hope i have not asked a question that was asked before, but did not find anything related in the last 30 or so pages i went back.

You absolutely cannot use them together. They definitely and very strongly conflict, and they will severely damage each other's programming.

Remember that SM3 is designed specifically to extend the effects of AM6 into a primal, sexual alpha. DMSI is designed to take a person and get them laid.

They both have the goal of getting you laid, and they both use auras, but they have very different ways of getting you there.

SM3 will grow you and make you a better man. DMSI will heal you to the extent that you need healing to express and act out it's program. Otherwise, no growth.

One is trying to make a huge change in you as a being; one is only trying to get you to project sexualized energy and then act on any sexual results.

Which one you pick is up to you.

hi Shannon,
somewhere in this thread, you mentioned FLAC files in the newest programs are slightly more effective than compressed mp3s.
assuming you have the uncompressed masters, is it possible for you to encode the SM 3.0 program in FLAC format as well?
i am at the last stage of AM 6 and about to start that one soon. probably like most of us who are here and taking it seriously, i have the necessary audio setup, all wired hi-res player/headphones/speakers (for ultrasonics) that all support up to at least 35khz range.

please consider this request as i am really hoping it is a justifiable effort on your side. it would probably benefit everyone who have started with AM 6.0 and will be getting on SM 3.0 as their only program for another 6 stages, even a 5% more efficiency translates to around 200 hours of listening .

(07-27-2016, 12:45 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 03:18 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 03:05 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 02:33 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2016, 02:32 PM)swisston Wrote: Does that require an initial understanding of what makes us sexy though? If I've never felt sexy or desirable before, does my subconscious actually know what to do? Can I educate myself somehow?

It already knows or has access to everything you need to know. Believe it.

hi Shannon,
i tried to search for SM 3.0 in the thread but the system found it too short!! of a term to search for.
i wanted to learn how this new DMSI relates to SM 3.0. i am in the fifth stage of AM 6 and starting the last stage 5 days later (the change is unbelievable, btw.).
i was thinking of purchasing the SM 3.0 set for afterwards, however this new program caught my attention, mostkly because of the new methods you are using in it. i was prepared to purchase the sm 3.0 so, without regards to the price, what should be the next step? is it possible to use DMSI 2.2 along with SM 3.0, maybe one or two loops a day (which the answer will probably be no, but i did not come across with a discussion of this in the 30+ pages i browsed)?
i hope i have not asked a question that was asked before, but did not find anything related in the last 30 or so pages i went back.

You absolutely cannot use them together. They definitely and very strongly conflict, and they will severely damage each other's programming.

Remember that SM3 is designed specifically to extend the effects of AM6 into a primal, sexual alpha. DMSI is designed to take a person and get them laid.

They both have the goal of getting you laid, and they both use auras, but they have very different ways of getting you there.

SM3 will grow you and make you a better man. DMSI will heal you to the extent that you need healing to express and act out it's program. Otherwise, no growth.

One is trying to make a huge change in you as a being; one is only trying to get you to project sexualized energy and then act on any sexual results.

Which one you pick is up to you.

hi Shannon,
somewhere in this thread, you mentioned FLAC files in the newest programs are slightly more effective than compressed mp3s.
assuming you have the uncompressed masters, is it possible for you to encode the SM 3.0 program in FLAC format as well?
i am at the last stage of AM 6 and about to start that one soon. probably like most of us who are here and taking it seriously, i have the necessary audio setup, all wired hi-res player/headphones/speakers (for ultrasonics) that all support up to at least 35khz range.

please consider this request as i am really hoping it is a justifiable effort on your side. it would probably benefit everyone who have started with AM 6.0 and will be getting on SM 3.0 as their only program for another 6 stages, even a 5% more efficiency translates to around 200 hours of listening .

That is some seriously flawed logic.

5% increase in clarity of audio does not translate into more time listening. It translates into 5% more easy comprehension. So no effective "more time listening" result.

It is, however, not going to be a case where the return on investment of time and effort to make FLACs for the SM3 program is going to be worth the cost. Moving forward there will be FLAC. I can't go back and create new compressed versions and then test, verify, label, tag, upload, etc. if I am going to be productive in what I am currently swamped doing.

(07-27-2016, 12:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: Slow and steady winsthe race.

No it didn't, and people commonly get this wrong. The actual moral of the fable of The Tortoise and The Hare is that the tortoise won because the hare was lazy and fell asleep before finishing the race and the tortoise kept going no matter what even though he knew the hare beat him easily on raw speed.

(07-27-2016, 07:48 PM)apollolux Wrote:

(07-27-2016, 12:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: Slow and steady winsthe race.

No it didn't, and people commonly get this wrong. The actual moral of the fable of The Tortoise and The Hare is that the tortoise won because the hare was lazy and fell asleep before finishing the race and the tortoise kept going no matter what even though he knew the hare beat him easily on raw speed.

Incorrect. The moral of the story is that steady application to a goal - regardless of how fast it is done - will accomplish the goal, while being inconsistent in your efforts toward a goal - regardless of how quickly you could potentially achieve it - will usually not achieve the goal.

The saying "slow and steady winsthe the race" is not actually referring to the speed at which you achieve a goal, or a literal race. In this case, it refers to successfully accomplishing your goal.

Speed means nothing if you do not achieve the goal. Consistency achieves the goal better than speed, and that's the point, simplified by the fables author so much that modern humans don't understand it anymore.

(07-28-2016, 11:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: The moral of the story is that steady application to a goal - regardless of how fast it is done - will accomplish the goal, while being inconsistent in your efforts toward a goal - regardless of how quickly you could potentially achieve it - will usually not achieve the goal.

I think we're saying the same thing in slightly different language; the tortoise applied steady, consistent application towards finishing the race while the hare was inconsistent and chose to nap, losing the race.

(07-28-2016, 11:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: The saying "slow and steady winsthe the race" is not actually referring to the speed at which you achieve a goal, or a literal race. In this case, it refers to successfully accomplishing your goal.

Speed means nothing if you do not achieve the goal. Consistency achieves the goal better than speed, and that's the point, simplified by the fables author so much that modern humans don't understand it anymore.

Agreed, except for the very last sentence; I believe the over-simplification wasn't done by Aesop, it's done by elementary school teachers who were and continue to be educated with the wrong moral from that story.