The night before last, I took a night off DMSI 3.1, felt like I needed it. I resumed the night after.
I can see how DMSI is making my focus solely on getting laid, the only down side I see how it is taking my focus away from my goals. I really notice the motivation towards my goals have waned, but the motivation towards women has increased. It is interesting how for me it feels like that or that.
The healing/clearing I have been feeling also. It feels like it turns my insides, inside-out, it is a very complex, peculiar feeling.
I feel more attractive and I see how over time this can continue to increase.
What is keeping me going with it as this point, is that I want to reach that IDGAF feeling/attitude towards getting with woman. That starts/comes from inside, with just the feeling of abundance, which then naturally starts manifesting itself externally. Judging by how my actions have been and what is going on internally I can see myself getting to that place, eventually.
I am just going with the flow, I could stop at any time, or carry on.
I definitely feel like I am improving in this area though, day by day. I can imagine these little things adding up and blossoming down the line, for sure.
I have got to a place now, where if I want to release sexually I can if I choose to and be fine with that decision. So much more healthier and positive for me now.
This what puts me off the newer DMSI. I want to be free to do what I want to do, when I want to do it. Us men feel very differently about things when we have released sexually. It helps to know what our brain is thinking sometimes without our testicles getting in the way.
The journey continues...
The only thing standing in your way is you. It's designed to stop you from using masturbation as a self sabotage technique. Nothing more, nothing less.
(10-05-2018, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing standing in your way is you. It's designed to stop you from using masturbation as a self sabotage technique. Nothing more, nothing less.
To be honest Shannon, I think not masturbating can be used as a self sabotage technique.
When I was with my girlfriend the one I met on 3.1. I naturally was into Semen Retention, as I learned I felt much better when not releasing. I got so good at it that I would favour Semen Retention than have sex with my girlfriend.
Releasing through masturbation and through sex made me not feel so good and would feel the negative effects for at least 7 days.
I have now got to a much healthier place where I don't feel bad when I release through masturbation.
So I don't want the programming of seeing masturbation as a "self sabotage technique". That is not healthy. I want to feel good with my decision be it through masturbation or through sex.
Also, when cutting the cords with my ex, do you how many times I was horny through lack of sexual release and contacted my ex girlfriend?...When all I would of had to do, is just release and realise it is my testicles thinking... not my brain.
(10-05-2018, 10:02 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2018, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing standing in your way is you. It's designed to stop you from using masturbation as a self sabotage technique. Nothing more, nothing less.
To be honest Shannon, I think not masturbating can be used as a self sabotage technique.
When I was with my girlfriend the one I met on 3.1. I naturally was into Semen Retention, as I learned I felt much better when not releasing. I got so good at it that I would favour Semen Retention than have sex with my girlfriend.
Releasing through masturbation and through sex made me not feel so good and would feel the negative effects for at least 7 days.
I have now got to a much healthier place where I don't feel bad when I release through masturbation.
So I don't want the programming of seeing masturbation as a "self sabotage technique". That is not healthy. I want to feel good with my decision be it through masturbation or through sex.
Also, when cutting the cords with my ex, do you how many times I was horny through lack of sexual release and contacted my ex girlfriend?...When all I would of had to do, is just release and realise it is my testicles thinking... not my brain.
Once again...
I am not trying to prevent you from masturbating unless you are using it as a self sabotage technique for derailing the execution of DMSI. I am not trying to define masturbation as a self sabotage technique.
The entire issue seems to be you misunderstanding what is going on.
(10-05-2018, 11:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2018, 10:02 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2018, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing standing in your way is you. It's designed to stop you from using masturbation as a self sabotage technique. Nothing more, nothing less.
To be honest Shannon, I think not masturbating can be used as a self sabotage technique.
When I was with my girlfriend the one I met on 3.1. I naturally was into Semen Retention, as I learned I felt much better when not releasing. I got so good at it that I would favour Semen Retention than have sex with my girlfriend.
Releasing through masturbation and through sex made me not feel so good and would feel the negative effects for at least 7 days.
I have now got to a much healthier place where I don't feel bad when I release through masturbation.
So I don't want the programming of seeing masturbation as a "self sabotage technique". That is not healthy. I want to feel good with my decision be it through masturbation or through sex.
Also, when cutting the cords with my ex, do you how many times I was horny through lack of sexual release and contacted my ex girlfriend?...When all I would of had to do, is just release and realise it is my testicles thinking... not my brain.
Once again...
I am not trying to prevent you from masturbating unless you are using it as a self sabotage technique for derailing the execution of DMSI. I am not trying to define masturbation as a self sabotage technique.
The entire issue seems to be you misunderstanding what is going on.
Ah OK then, that does sound better.
I think where this misunderstanding came from is seeing you on the forum telling numerous people, numerous times when they declared they masturbated, that they are using masturbation to sabotage DMSI. It seemed like it was everyone that masturbated lol.
With all due respect Shannon, don't forget you are the only one who truly knows what is going on, as you know what is exactly in the script.
We are pretty much in the dark, on how exactly the script is worded. Which is totally cool, so misunderstandings can happen.
Thank you for clarifying, I am sure you understand where my concerns where coming from though, as I have just got to feeling better about releasing if I do release, which was a big thing for me (Even though I don't choose to release often, going weeks without).
(10-05-2018, 11:51 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2018, 11:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2018, 10:02 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2018, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing standing in your way is you. It's designed to stop you from using masturbation as a self sabotage technique. Nothing more, nothing less.
To be honest Shannon, I think not masturbating can be used as a self sabotage technique.
When I was with my girlfriend the one I met on 3.1. I naturally was into Semen Retention, as I learned I felt much better when not releasing. I got so good at it that I would favour Semen Retention than have sex with my girlfriend.
Releasing through masturbation and through sex made me not feel so good and would feel the negative effects for at least 7 days.
I have now got to a much healthier place where I don't feel bad when I release through masturbation.
So I don't want the programming of seeing masturbation as a "self sabotage technique". That is not healthy. I want to feel good with my decision be it through masturbation or through sex.
Also, when cutting the cords with my ex, do you how many times I was horny through lack of sexual release and contacted my ex girlfriend?...When all I would of had to do, is just release and realise it is my testicles thinking... not my brain.
Once again...
I am not trying to prevent you from masturbating unless you are using it as a self sabotage technique for derailing the execution of DMSI. I am not trying to define masturbation as a self sabotage technique.
The entire issue seems to be you misunderstanding what is going on.
Ah OK then, that does sound better.
I think where this misunderstanding came from is seeing you on the forum telling numerous people, numerous times when they declared they masturbated, that they are using masturbation to sabotage DMSI. It seemed like it was everyone that masturbated lol.
With all due respect Shannon, don't forget you are the only one who truly knows what is going on, as you know what is exactly in the script.
We are pretty much in the dark, on how exactly the script is worded. Which is totally cool, so misunderstandings can happen.
Thank you for clarifying, I am sure you understand where my concerns where coming from though, as I have just got to feeling better about releasing if I do release, which was a big thing for me (Even though I don't choose to release often, going weeks without).
There is masturbating because it's a normal activity, etc. and there is masturbating to cause the program to fail. In most cases, people are using it to subvert the program, which is why I put the anti-masturbation script in. But it's not my place or desire to prevent all masturbation. I just want to prevent sabotage to executing DMSI. I was trying to be clear about that the journal response thread.
Which has opened up another loophole, but that will be closed in 3.3.
So this mini testing of DMSI 3.1, has been fruitful...as it has showed that 7 loops a night has made me feel really emotionally down and unmotivated. In contrast to US/LM 1 loop, feeling pretty good and more motivated.
What sucks is that I want to sleep, but I can't sleep as much and when I do have a sleep it feels like I didn't get enough, even though last night I did not listen again.
Now I remember 7 loops of US/LM I didn't feel great and lowering it to one loop I felt much better.
So, I have to decide now if I want to test 1 loop of DMSI 3.1 A or B, or move on. These soul sucking feelings make me want to just move on as I don't want to feel this way.
I start a new job today and these feelings make me feel not ready emotionally and unprepared.
Before I move on I will have to test 1 loop a night to see if that allows me to feel better like I did on US/LM.
Jeez man, I can't even think straight, I don't even know what I am doing, or why I am even doing this lol.
I might test A at 1 loop first, then B ...because I won't get a chance otherwise. I don't know I can't think straight whatever I do, I will do.
The emotional pain is mega, it feels like my heart has been sliced with a knife on the right side of my heart, towards the middle of the chest. Me not like this.
Taking time off and then returning to US/LM, is looking really appealing right about now. This emotional pain is not worth it.
Lack of women on same wave length on Tinder/Bumble, makes me feel like shit also.
When I speak to women on there or swiping, I remember how much I liked my ex girlfriend. I know these thoughts are a trap but It makes me realise It would be more healthy for me not to get involved with any women for quite a while. Focusing on myself, my goals, my life and achieving what I want to achieve for myself is far my important ....and then if a girl on the same wavelength comes along futher down the line, then great.
I never have been a guy into just sex, I need much more than that with a woman, sex is icing on the cake. I like attractive quality women with substance and if I am honest for me to attract them kind of women and be content and happy staying with them in my own mind and body, then I need to fulfil more of my own potential.
I have improved a lot, but who I am now is nowhere near even started to fulfill my potential. I want to be independent, self sufficient and fulfilling my potential and being happy with my self and my life AND THEN a woman can compliment my already fulfilled life.
I'll let you know when I feel better.
So I just got the most blatant IOI's from this chick at a train station LOL. And I released today Twice! This means alot to me.
So real life I see results. On Tinder/Bumble, not so much. I haven't been out to see or interact with any girls so my only external results came from only apps, which is not a good way of knowing.
Real life, is the only way to test. I need to remember this.
If only I found a way of being around more attractive women in real life to really test it.
Why did I have to get a mega in my face indicator of interest to make me see that DMSI is having an effect on women in the real world? I was so close to stopping! Why does this tempt me so much?
This just makes me more confused.
If you got more of this, life would be more fun Fluffy says
I am experiencing Bi-Polar like change in emotions...don't listen to me!
I deleted my accounts on Tinder and Bumble. these apps really negatively effected me. I suppose a big part of that is focusing on all the unwanted aspects all the time.
Looking forward to getting my mind and body focused on my self and my goals again. It only took me 10 days to go down hill! LOL.
Gonna rest from subs for a bit, clear the air and my emotions, then return to US/LM. I choose to focus on my goals and become the person I want to be. I got shit to achieve.
Can't wait to forget about all this and my emotions become balanced again.
Testing Complete.
Conclusion = Don't want to focus on women or fall for the puss'Y trap. I do want to focus on my self and achieve my goals that is first and ONLY Priority.
If a girl comes along in real life that I click with great, if not that is totally fine as I got goals to achieve and a life to enjoy. I choose to come from this mindset.
Hope somebody gained something from this, if not... thank you for reading.
I never stopped DMSI 3.1 A. I just lowered to 2 loops a night.
My attractiveness is going up through various means but actions towards my goals are declining. What was once required just a little bit of will power now requires much more, if I am able to do anything that is.
I am wanting to stop so I get back to focusing on my goals that I want to achieve but I am finding it hard to quit for some reason, even though I can see my progress with my other goals declining.
It feels like I am sabotaging my goals in favour of being attractive, in others words Gym time gone up, study time gone down.
I am doing my best to consciously make progress towards my other goals. I might do one more test (Involving visualisation, that I also did on US/LM, but stopped soon as I started DMSI 3.1 A) to see if I can consciously make progress with my goals no matter what subliminal I am using.
If this works then, I will know it was helping me also when I was using US/LM.
This Osteopath girl from my past, that I found very attractive and the kinda girl that just makes my heart beat faster and gets my juices flowing has messaged me this morning asking if I wanted sports massage that I asked about ages ago but she was away and I told her to let me know when she is back but she never got back to me even though she was only away 2 weeks and its been like 2 months and I am on DMSI? Coincidence?
What makes this even more interesting is that she is on my whatsapp and I look at her photos quite a bit because I just find her so attractive, I also screen printed a few in the past and I look at them sometime too. There is a strong energy there!
The problem was that she had a boyfriend, so that was a road closed.
I do wonder if she is single now, (HOPE). I do need a sports massage anyway, so seeing her would be like hitting two birds with one stone.
I mean she is so hot, not just physically I mean she is smart, healthy, Slim, educated, passionate about her career etc. She really gets my juices flowing. It's quite rare to feel that, my only conclusion is, is that it is a mutual vibe between us.
Now don't worry, I am not going to be obsessed with the girl, because it is highly likely that she is still with her boyfriend. I will find out when I get my sports massage
Anyway, for her to get in contact out of the blue, feels like it is DMSI. It might be nothing in it per say, but maybe just because I find her attractive she has come back into my life and nothing more then that.
I am going to just forget about her for the rest of the week, I know there is abundance of attractive women out there, so it's best to not focus on one.
When I first met her over year and half ago I was on 3.1 and it was a bummer to feel all that strong energy and attraction and the person have a boyfriend.
In my mind I imagine she broke up with her boyfriend and she thought of me and she wanted to get in contact with me in a indirect way through giving me a sports massage! Hahaha! That would be beautiful :angel:
All's fair in love and war. So what if she has a boyfriend - is he your friend? If they were engaged, or married, that'd be different. But just a boyfriend? Go get her, tiger.
(10-13-2018, 05:21 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]All's fair in love and war. So what if she has a boyfriend - is he your friend? If they were engaged, or married, that'd be different. But just a boyfriend? Go get her, tiger.
You have got a good point and I have never really thought of it like that. I suppose I like to treat those as I wish to be treated.
There is no right or wrong way to view this so I could adapt your way of seeing this.
I think dating and relationships in England might be different compared to the USA.
A lot of people don't get engaged nor married and still move in together and start a family together, so being boyfriend and girlfriend is not just "dating".
If she is in love with the guy and values their relationship, she wouldn't allow anything to happen anyway. So don't want to get my hopes up, but I will naturally flirt with her and see what happens.
I want to flirt much more with the 20 year old girl at my English class when I see her. I didn't go last Tuesday and she Whatsapped me asking why I did not come into class and that she hopes I am ok.
I was thinking...Yeah you better miss me! Lol.
I don't message her much but She's different, indeed. Sometimes she don't message back for days at a time. It don't bother me now, as I just see that is how she is. I also make sure I don't ask her questions in my messages so its not like she has to get back to me anyway.
It's quite funny her responding to a message 3 days later. It'S kinda like speaking with someone in real life physically and then replying to what they said 4 days later lol, it would be very strange.
I would love to know what is going on in her mind/life to understand our if curiosity. When I make an effort to speak to her in person she opens up and is happy to talk with me. She even looked at my student I.D and said I looked cute in the photo. And she said we should get high together etc.
There just seems like mixed messages or maybe not, maybe she unjust shy and this is how she is?